This is the multivitamin formulated by Bill Sardi the president of Longevinex
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And make or add:
1. Potassium glycinate 99mg
2. IP6 from rice bran extract at 120mg
3. Taurine at 50mg
4. Lycopene (Lyc-O-Mato) 2mg
All minerals are resistant to IP6 due to chelation.
Posted 14 June 2007 - 03:50 PM
And make or add:
1. Potassium glycinate 99mg
2. IP6 from rice bran extract at 120mg
3. Taurine at 50mg
4. Lycopene (Lyc-O-Mato) 2mg
1. Why is potassium even an issue? 99mg is the limit for dietary supplements, but it's such a small dose. I'd rather them put something in their multi that will actually be useful at that kind of dosage and not have to increase serving size.
2. See below.
3. Again, such a low dose isn't worth the hassle.
4. See above.
Ortho-Core has lycopene and taurine at respectable doses. But it's just a wider foundation. And that's what a good multi is. It's not an end-all to supplementation. It's a foundation that you build off of. I don't want my multi to come with an ORAC rating. I'll go eat an apple.
Any evidence of this?
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Posted 14 June 2007 - 11:21 PM
No, its in the JOURNAL OF NEUROLOGY:
http://www.ncbi.nlm....7&dopt=Abstract
If your 25-hydroxyvitamin D level is 45 and you're taking only 1,000 IU's of D3 then good luck with melanoma from all that good for nothing UV radiation.
This is another example of why we demand PMIDs. You got the journal name wrong again. It's Archives of Neurology. And you misrepresented the results again. Copper was found to hurt only those who consume high amounts of saturated and trans fats.Accelerated Cognitive Decline among people consuming 1.6mg or more.[J Archives of Neurology Aug 2006]
99% of all Multi's have 15mg of Zn except AOR's Multi for no good reason.
I don't need a reference for everything I say
99mg of K Glycinate because most Americans get too low of intakes.
Vanadium references listed below in this email. Hasn't shown essential in humans just animals and can have adverse effects.
AOR's Ortho-Core even has some synthetic vitamin E (petroleum) in it's other ingredients
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What does it matter if it's Journal of Neurology or another reference. You just don't like what it shows so you're desperate and grasping at straws.
A 2003 study found no significant difference in absorption for serum levels from oral vs sublingual delivery of 500 micrograms of methylcobalamin. [Br J Clin Pharmacol. 2003 Dec;56(6):635-8] You said methylcobalamin is only absorbed sublingually.
Methylcobalamin should be taken sublingually to avoid the liver converting it into a different form.
So, facts are why would governments approbe another form of B12 if cyanocobablin is harmless? Wouldn't it be wise to stick with the safer form so you don't have to worry?
Krillin, you have never offered evidence that your position is better but merely different. For example, you never showed a reference showing the Broccoli form of selenium is better than SelenoExcell.
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Posted 15 June 2007 - 10:20 PM
It's odd, how you say, 11mg of zinc is the new RDA for zinc in AOR's defense. But, yet 200mcg of selenium that AOR has is far beyond the RDA:
PMSG has 150mcg since the average American gets 80mcg to 100mcg and the upper safe limit is 400mcg. A common symptom of too much selenium can be a numb big toe.
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Krillin, you make it up as you go along:
Cyanide is a poison. Only a fool would try figuring out what trace amount is safe. Spend your time more productively.
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Explain how page 16 on AOR's own literature says 12mg of B1 can be absorbed read my previous post here. You said only 9mg of B1 can be absorbed. Wrong, it's 12mg the same amount as in yours truly: Perfect Multi Super Greens
Krillin controls your minds like your all on a string connected to his fingers!
Dr. Cathcart is one of the world's greatest authorities on vitamin C supplementation. Dr. Cathcart says you must take twice as much ascorbate to have the same antioxidant effect of ascorbic acid, and Krillin says he's wrong.
The following protocol is recommended for AIDS and AIDS related conditions including lymphadenopathy, idiopathic thrombo- cytopenia purpura, and Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia.
As predicted, AIDS patients are usually capable of ingesting large doses of ascorbate. It is desirable that the amount of ascorbate taken orally be maximized. Patients are -titrated to bowel tolerance- (the amount that almost, but not quite, causes diarrhea). A -balanced ascorbate- mixture is utilized which is made up of a mixture of approximately 25% buffered ascorbate salts (calcium, magnesium, and potassium ascorbate) and 75% ascorbic acid. This mixture is dissolved in a small amount of water and taken at least every hour. The purpose of the frequent doses and this balanced mixture is to maximize the amount of ascorbate tolerated without producing diarrhea. Patients are permitted to vary the percentage of ascorbate salts to straight ascorbic acid according to taste. The usual amount tolerated initially is between 40 and 100 grams per 24 hours. -Doses in excess of 100 grams per 24 hours may be necessary with secondary bacterial and viral infections-. As the patient's condition improves, bowel tolerance will decrease.
500mg of vitamin C should be the minimum dose for any optimal multivitamin
Posted 16 June 2007 - 07:48 PM
Krillin controls your minds like your all on a string connected to his fingers!
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What do you mean ?
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This thread makes me ill.
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mirian, nobody here gives enough of a shit about AOR to wade through your text spam to defend it.
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