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#1 Mixter

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 03:24 PM


Moderator's Note - It has been brought to our attention that applying zinc to the nose can lead to loss of smell. Be careful.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/16467707

 

After I've been surprised how often I had colds (almost 10 in the last 12 months!!), I've
researched a bit and found interesting things I didn't see fully mentioned on ImmInst yet.

Following is experience and/or googled, anyone who has time for matching that against pubmed
or trusted sources, very welcome, or I may do it later. So far this is my 'anecdotal evidence',
after putting this into action, my colds are reduced to minimal annoyance, lasting max. 3 days:

- Frequent common cold is not so much related to a weak immune system, which can't do
that much against initial infections (although stress and such obviously plays a role)

- All the annoying symptoms are results of excess inflammation, which is not required to
battle the rhinoviruses (and similar): 25% of non-flu cold infections come and go without
noticeable cold symptoms, the immune system beating them anyhow

- Very active immune systems indeed make colds worse by mounting high inflammation response

Above i mostly googled recently, together with things I already now, and my regimen is now:

1. Always have zinc lozenges ready, don't hesitate to take 10mg/hour for 2-3 days

2. Daily nasal salt water wash and frequent hand washing doesn't disinfect, but still physically
removes cold viruses, thus a primary way of prevention and effective in reducing viral load.
Also, never touching your face, esp. nose/eyes helps a lot - rhinovirii lurk a lot on
surfaces, surviving a long time there, at least as much risk as the airborne one.

3. Mouthwash (and nasal wash) w/ salt & zinc (a very toxic thing to rhinovirii) solution.
If necessary: applying a zinc cream inside the nose for some hours is even more powerful.

4. Ibuprofen 400 mg (1-2x/day, 3x if really bad) w/ antihistamines (I used Cetirizine) takes
away most symptoms and seems not to hinder the immune system from doing its job,
may even speed recovery of mucous membranes from infection. If cold is really unbearable,
gargle/chew some antihistamines (half a minimal dose or so) -> instant relief! Also, VitC,
200mg DHEA, 600mg NAC 3x/day, Garlic/Onion tabs (latter also reduce inflammation)

5. For the nootropic users: at least ergot derived nootropics (hydergine, nicergoline) do help
with low energy and fatigue, and probably with 'cleaning up' the infection which occurs
almost only in the upper airways in colds (because of increased blood flow to head)

At least for me, this combo really works and makes a huge difference. Feedback welcome.


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#2 syr_

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Posted 14 October 2006 - 05:05 PM

" Very active immune systems indeed make colds worse by mounting high inflammation response"

Allicin and vitamin D3 reduce the cytokine storm.
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#3 ajnast4r

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Posted 14 October 2006 - 10:08 PM

green tea en force

#4 nootropicinfo

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 07:05 PM

Anyone know about:

- Cats Claw (good for inflammation?)
- Echinacea

This surprised me:

http://www.newmediae...work_update.htm

Hydrogen Peroxide?

Must be the right TYPE of zinc apparently:

http://www.coldcure....tml/review.html

Strange website......

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 04:59 AM

Thanks for the good info, mixter. During a cold, you are more susceptible to a bacterial secondary infection. When a cold suddenly gets a lot worse several days into it, that is probably what's going on. If a cold hasn't cleared completely in a week to ten days, you probably have some level of bacterial infection, or else a second viral infection or allergic symptoms. A good doctor is invaluable here. In addition to being more susceptible to other infections during a cold, your mucous membranes do not heal quickly even after the cold is gone. It may take 6 weeks for them to fully recover, and until they do, you will be more susceptible to infection. A cold followed by a couple bacterial infections in rapid succesion is all it takes to put you in the hospital, or the morgue for that matter, if you aren't careful.

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 11:36 PM

I believe vitamin D has some interesting if unproven abilities to ward off cold and flu viruses. My wife has worked with the Dr. John Cannell at Atascadero State Hospital so I heard about his theory on flu resistance due to vitamin D supplementation. I personally very rarely get any colds and if I do get them they are quick and mild. I stopped getting colds about 12 years ago and I have no idea why. I do ride my bike more so maybe I'm getting a good dose of D. I don't supplement with vitamin D but I think I will start this week. I also think it's a good idea for everyone keep some vitamin D around the house for friends and family if bird flu ever goes pandemic.

I guess our hospital was under luckier stars as only about 12% of our patients were infected (flu) and no one died. However, as the epidemic progressed, I noticed something unusual. First, the ward below mine was infected, and then the ward on my right, left, and across the hall - but no patients on my ward became ill. My patients had intermingled with patients from infected wards before the quarantines. The nurses on my unit cross-covered on infected wards. Surely, my patients were exposed to the influenza A virus. How did my patients escape infection from what some think is the most infectious of all the respiratory viruses?

My patients were no younger, no healthier, and in no obvious way different from patients on other wards. Like other wards, my patients are mostly African Americans who came from the same prisons and jails as patients on the infected wards. They were prescribed a similar assortment of powerful psychotropic medications we use throughout the hospital to reduce the symptoms of psychosis, depression, and violent mood swings and to try to prevent patients from killing themselves or attacking other patients and the nursing staff. If my patients were similar to the patients on all the adjoining wards, why didn't even one of my patients catch the flu?

A short while later, a group of scientists from UCLA published a remarkable paper in the prestigious journal, Nature. The UCLA group confirmed two other recent studies, showing that a naturally occurring steroid hormone - a hormone most of us take for granted - was, in effect, a potent antibiotic. Instead of directly killing bacteria and viruses, the steroid hormone under question increases the body's production of a remarkable class of proteins, called antimicrobial peptides. The 200 known antimicrobial peptides directly and rapidly destroy the cell walls of bacteria, fungi, and viruses, including the influenza virus, and play a key role in keeping the lungs free of infection. The steroid hormone that showed these remarkable antibiotic properties was plain old vitamin D.

All of the patients on my ward had been taking 2,000 units of vitamin D every day for several months or longer. Could that be the reason none of my patients caught the flu? I then contacted Professors Reinhold Vieth and Ed Giovannucci and told them of my observations. They immediately advised me to collect data from all the patients in the hospital on 2,000 units of vitamin D, not just the ones on my ward, to see if the results were statistically significant. It turns out that the observations on my ward alone were of borderline statistical significance and could have been due to chance alone. Administrators at our hospital agreed, and are still attempting to collect data from all the patients in the hospital on 2,000 or more units of vitamin D at the time of the epidemic.
In the paper, we propose that vitamin D explains the following 14 observations:

1. Why the flu predictably occurs in the months following the winter solstice, when vitamin D levels are at their lowest,

2. Why it disappears in the months following the summer solstice,

3. Why influenza is more common in the tropics during the rainy season,

4. Why the cold and rainy weather associated with El Nino Southern Oscillation (ENSO), which drives people indoors and lowers vitamin D blood levels, is associated with influenza,

5. Why the incidence of influenza is inversely correlated with outdoor temperatures,

6. Why children exposed to sunlight are less likely to get colds,

7. Why cod liver oil (which contains vitamin D) reduces the incidence of viral respiratory infections,

8. Why Russian scientists found that vitamin D-producing UVB lamps reduced colds and flu in schoolchildren and factory workers,

9. Why Russian scientists found that volunteers, deliberately infected with a weakened flu virus - first in the summer and then again in the winter - show significantly different clinical courses in the different seasons,

10. Why the elderly who live in countries with high vitamin D consumption, like Norway, are less likely to die in the winter,

11. Why children with vitamin D deficiency and rickets suffer from frequent respiratory infections,

12. Why an observant physician (Rehman), who gave high doses of vitamin D to children who were constantly sick from colds and the flu, found the treated children were suddenly free from infection,

13. Why the elderly are so much more likely to die from heart attacks in the winter rather than in the summer,

14. Why African Americans, with their low vitamin D blood levels, are more likely to die from influenza and pneumonia than Whites are.

Although our paper discusses the possibility that physiological doses of vitamin D (5,000 units a day) may prevent colds and the flu, and that physicians might find pharmacological doses of vitamin D (2,000 units per kilogram of body weight per day for three days) useful in treating some of the one million people who die in the world every year from influenza, we remind readers that it is only a theory. Like all theories, our theory must withstand attempts to be disproved with dispassionately conducted and well-controlled scientific experiments.

However, as vitamin D deficiency has repeatedly been associated with many of the diseases of civilization, we point out that it is not too early for physicians to aggressively diagnose and adequately treat vitamin D deficiency. We recommend that enough vitamin D be taken daily to maintain 25-hydroxy vitamin D levels at levels normally achieved through summertime sun exposure (50 ng/ml). For many persons, such as African Americans and the elderly, this will require up to 5,000 units daily in the winter and less, or none, in the summer, depending on summertime sun exposure.

By: J. J. Cannell

http://www.medicalne...hp?newsid=51913

http://www.knowledge...s..., Vitamin D

http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/
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#7 mitkat

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 12:16 AM

Hydergine produces flu-like symptoms in many users as is, could be one worth dropping if you get a cold.
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 07:12 AM

On a diet of ZERO junk food and dairy and plenty of spirulina, chlorella, wheat & barley grass, MSM, maca, coconut oil&milk and lots of other goodness and I did not have a cold or beginnings of one for over a year. (compared to the usual 5 or 6) Then everyone at work bought me hocolates for x-mas and you think 'what the hell.... just this once.....' Unfortunatly it wasn't a one off, fell out of my good dieting habits and managed to get another 5 or 6 colds the next year.

To avoid getting sick in the first place though its not all about what you put in your mouth, but also what you stop putting in your mouth (eg processed and junk foods).

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 04:14 PM

On a diet of ZERO junk food and dairy and plenty of spirulina, chlorella, wheat & barley grass, MSM, maca, coconut oil&milk and lots of other goodness and I did not have a cold or beginnings of one for over a year.


Same here, I have not been sick for 1+ year for the first time of my life, which corresponds to the time period I started to take daily fresh fruit juices, coconut, algaes + grasses...


Gargling with TeaTree oil is highly effective and soothing, that's for sure.

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 07:09 PM

Gargling with TeaTree oil is highly effective and soothing, that's for sure.


Whoa, shure sounds yucky! What ammount would you take? (the whole notion makes me kinda sick though :-) )

#11 xanadu

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 08:22 PM

I agree with shifter. My last cold was almost 7 years ago and the one before that was 5 years previously. I see no reason to ever get another since I have improved my diet and vitamin/supps intake since then. The right diet, vits/supps, avoiding junk and crap and you should be fine. Excercise helps too.

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 12:41 AM

Oral glutathione as a preventative measure?

http://www.sciencebl.../200001843.html

Oral exposure to anti-oxidant glutathione could help prevent flu infections

Emory University scientists reported today at the Experimental Biology 2000 meeting in San Diego that glutathione, a naturally occurring anti-oxidant compound, could help prevent infection by the influenza virus if administered directly to the tissues lining the mouth and upper airway. The scientists suggested that glutathione concentrated in a lozenge or spray might be the most effective way to use the compound as a flu preventive.

Glutathione, which occurs naturally in a variety of foods, has been shown in research studies to reduce cellular damage by reactive oxygen from a variety of cancer causing agents, including ionizing radiation and environmental carcinogens. Studies by Dr. Jones and his colleagues on the potential role of dietary glutathione, however, have previously found that the body does not appear to use the compound on a systemic basis to ward off disease.

While studying the role of glutathione as an anti-cancer agent, the Emory scientists discovered that one of the enzymes that uses glutathione to detoxify cancer-causing chemicals and oxidants is deposited in the mucous layer lining the mouth and nose, thus providing an extracellular barrier to toxic chemicals. This led them to consider a possible role for glutathione as an anti-flu protectant.

The flu virus is normally released from infected cells as an inactive particle. To infect another cell, it must be activated by having one of its proteins cleaved (split into two pieces) by a protease enzyme. Proteases, along with proteins that normally inhibit their activation, are present in the fluid that lines the epithelial cells (the cells that line the mouth, upper airways and intestine). Scientists have found through studies in mice that viral infections result in oxidative responses that inactivate natural protease inhibitors, thus enhancing viral activation. They also have found that activation of the virus particles could be controlled by oxidation reduction reactions.

Knowing that glutathione is an anti-oxidant and that it is present in the mouth and nose linings, Dr. Jones exposed normal human airway epithelial cells in culture to flu virus either without or with glutathione in order to test its protective ability against the flu. With high concentrations of flu virus, the glutathione showed no protective effect, but with lower concentrations similar to the amount present during a normal human flu infection, the cells were completely protected against infection.

Dr. Jones then infected two groups of mice with a mouse-adapted strain of a human influenza virus. The mice that had been given drinking water containing glutathione had a significant decrease in viral production compared to animals whose water did not contain glutathione.

"It appears that by going directly to the site of infection with we can block the influenza infection in the upper airway," says Jones. "We believe that if we put the glutathione in a lozenge, we could directly expose the virus-susceptible tissues to glutathione over a relatively long period of time. This could be very helpful, for example, if you were sitting next to someone with the flu on an airplane. You could effectively block the infection for a period of several hours."

Although the data suggest that a glutathione lozenge would probably work, the concept should be tested in humans, Jones says. And a glutathione lozenge should not be considered an alternative to taking the flu vaccine.

"There is a natural variation among people in resistance to viruses and in our natural antioxidant system," he explains. "If we are smokers, if we are deficient in anti-oxidant vitamins, if we are under stress, or as we become older, we become more oxidized, which makes us more vulnerable to viral infection. This direct exposure to glutathione could be part of an overall strategy to enhance our anti-oxidant defenses."

Sarah Goodwin, 404-727-3366 sgoodwi@emory.edu
Kathi Ovnic, 404-727-9371 covnic@emory.edu
www.emory.edu/WHSC/



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Posted 04 January 2007 - 02:56 PM

I recommend using antiseptic lozenges (and those to be taken at least 2 days 3x day) in the first signs of a cold. When you're already ill you may try whatever "magic" potion, but it won't significantly make the cold shorter, the first strike's the most importand and it works.

#14 jamesbeebop

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 02:09 PM

I'm curious what folks thinking is on the LEF protocol for the common cold?

Found here.


In general, their various protocols for disease seem to be well researched. Anyone have personal experience using any of the recommended methods successfully?

#15 Centurion

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Posted 08 January 2007 - 03:23 PM

daily nasal wash? sounds dangerous?

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 10:23 AM

Moderator's Note - It has been brought to our attention that applying zinc to the nose can lead to loss of smell. Be careful.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/16467707


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#17 zorba990

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 02:35 AM

+1 for salt water, even gargle to keep everything clearing and above the neck. Vitamin C at initial stages

Vitamin C Is an Essential Factor on the Anti-viral Immune Responses through the Production of Interferon-α/β at the Initial Stage of Influenza A Virus (H3N2) Infection
http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC3659258/

Echinacea for prevention
http://www.ncbi.nlm....40/#!po=70.0000

also...

Lactoferrin:

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J Infect Chemother. 2014 Nov;20(11):666-71. doi: 10.1016/j.jiac.2014.08.003. Epub 2014 Aug 30.
Lactoferrin for prevention of common viral infections.
Wakabayashi H1, Oda H2, Yamauchi K2, Abe F2.
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Abstract
Although lactoferrin has many biological functions, the host-protective effects against pathogenic microorganisms including bacteria, fungi, and viruses are regarded as one of the most important. Here, we review research on the protective role of lactoferrin administration against common viral infections. Many studies have shown the in vitro antiviral activity of lactoferrin against viral pathogens that cause common infections such as the common cold, influenza, gastroenteritis, summer cold, and herpes, where lactoferrin inhibits mainly viral attachment to the target cells. Recently, studies indicating the in vivo protective effects of lactoferrin by oral administration against common viral infections have been increasing. For instance, norovirus is an extremely important emerging human pathogen that causes a majority of gastroenteritis outbreaks worldwide that may be a target candidate for lactoferrin. Lactoferrin consumption reduced the incidence of noroviral gastroenteritis in children and a similar effect was observed in a wide range of ages in a preliminary survey. A recent in vitro study reported that lactoferrin inhibits both cellular attachment of the murine norovirus, a virus closely-related to the human norovirus, and viral replication in the cells by inducing antiviral cytokines interferon (IFN)-α/β. Lactoferrin administration also enhances NK cell activity and Th1 cytokine responses, which lead to protection against viral infections. In conclusion, lactoferrin consumption may protect the host from viral infections through inhibiting the attachment of a virus to the cells, replication of the virus in the cells, and enhancement of systemic immune functions.
Copyright © 2014 Japanese Society of Chemotherapy and The Japanese Association for Infectious Diseases. Published by Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved."




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