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[Joseph]

Wow, just watched all of those... he has done a truly remarkable job.

Thanks for the post sanjay!

[Liquidus]

Goldmine, cha ching. This guy probably lived his whole life as a logical ranter with no soapbox. Thank God (pun intended) for youtube .

'Religion is the natural home of the psychopath'

[Andrew Shevchuk]

This is priceless. I'm going to show these to some of my atheist friends.

[Live Forever]

I like how he goes off on atheism not being a religion. It reminds me of the old quote "calling atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color"

[lucid]

I don't believe in a divine being but I don't really care for this guy. Both he and Dawkins are so angry. Further they issue inflamitory and sensational remarks... Hammering a bible up bush's anus with a large mallet is particularly remarkable.
These guys make athiests look like angry people, I would much rather someone talk comfortably, not angrily, just saying 'hey guys look religion is kind of dumb'... I don't understand why they have to get angry and offensive, it certainly doesn't help their cause. I'm an atheist and it turned me off.....

[Live Forever]

It seems to me that anytime anyone criticizes anything about religion, they are labeled as "angry" or being "inflammatory". I do not know why we have, as a society, different rules for criticizing and debating political opinions, scientific viewpoints, economic policies, etc. etc. (just about anything) than there are for pointing out illogical religious views.

[niner]

No, this guy wasn't just debating, he really was inflammatory and sounded pretty pissed off to me.  I also thought he was funny as hell and I agree with his points- I'd like to buy him a beer.  (Cause he kinda needs to chill out...)  But I think lucid is right.  Atheism needs a friendlier face.

[Live Forever]

Well I only watched 3 or 4 of them, but he didn't seem angry to me. Perhaps you guys watched a different one than I did. Point me to one where he seems angry so I can partake as well. )

[Liquidus]

If you ask me, he seems like he's been enduring decades of frustration regarding the absurdities that religions continue to impose on people. It's not hard to be mad that most of the people around you believe in illogical things, and they're entitled to their opinions in the name of fairness, let alone logic.

[catichka]

yeah he does not come off as angry. he comes across as a spectator showing the absurdity of the society he lives in. that goes beyond anger, its not even despare. its more just a well versed pointing out of all he sees incomprehensable around him.

[lucid]

Ok well I was going to show a picture of this guy where he has an angry look on his face and compare it to a tele-evangelist:

Not all discussion of whether he is angry or not is subjective. There is a whole science to reading facial emotions, at anyrate, that IS an angry facial emotion.

But then I went and watched Tele-Evangelist feeds, and it seemed everyone I watched had some sort of damnation message, and there were only angry faces to be snapshotted. (So It is unfair to say religous people display loving expressions more than athiests)

The majority of the people in this forum (including myself, and excluding Elijah) agree with this guy, however I still think he comes off as angry. Here is a test, get a Christian friend or religiously impartial person to watch the clip Hello America, and ask them whether this guy comes off as loving or angry. I really like some of these videos but I think that the anger turns off broad audiences. I think the message should come across in a relaxed, intelligent, compassionate tone to reach the broadest audience.

[Aegist]

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I think the message should come across in a relaxed, intelligent, compassionate tone to reach the broadest audience.

That sounds great.

Unfortunately the people who do that, are ignored.

[samson]

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I think the message should come across in a relaxed, intelligent, compassionate tone to reach the broadest audience.

That sounds great.

Unfortunately the people who do that, are ignored.

You my friend, have reached the deepest truth in media popularity.

[struct]

I find lucid's and niner's comments disrespectful.  
What's wrong with being legitimately angry (if he is that way)!?

[Aegist]

Don't mind them struct, they're just angry.

[struct]

ha ha; that's a good one (and I am just being angry at them).

[dimasok]

I have no problem with religion being taught as a history lesson in what people used to believe (just like no one believes in the aboriginal creation stories nowadays), but please, stop preaching this medieval nonsense-driven absurd bullshit to rational people and diminish all the great achievements of science which allowed religious people to live up to this age in the first place.

Being religious is being a pervert of truth and a complete lunatic, bordering on the edge of insanity (i'm talking about those people who are true believers and don't merely go to church due to family traditions which is not really religious in the first place).

This guy is right, they should have a "mental hazard" warning label on every holy book ever written (or any new-age/paranormal book for that matter) and this guy has the freakin right to be angry cause this psychological brainwashing, this absolute insult to human intelligence has to stop!

Religion, as an account of how the universe began and as a venomous life-draining theocracy should be dismantled and replaced with what we're working towards. We will engineer the heavens, not wish for it in vain.

[Liquidus]

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I have no problem with religion being taught as a history lesson in what people used to believe (just like no one believes in the aboriginal creation stories nowadays), but please, stop preaching this medieval nonsense-driven absurd bullshit to rational people and diminish all the great achievements of science which allowed religious people to live up to this age in the first place.

Being religious is being a pervert of truth and a complete lunatic, bordering on the edge of insanity (i'm talking about those people who are true believers and don't merely go to church due to family traditions which is not really religious in the first place).

This guy is right, they should have a "mental hazard" warning label on every holy book ever written (or any new-age/paranormal book for that matter) and this guy has the freakin right to be angry cause this psychological brainwashing, this absolute insult to human intelligence has to stop!

Religion, as an account of how the universe began and as a venomous life-draining theocracy should be dismantled and replaced with what we're working towards. We will engineer the heavens, not wish for it in vain.

Amen  [sfty]

[william7]

Don't say I didn't tell you so when the first great earthquake hits along with the other signs mentioned in Revelation 6:12-17. You guys won't be talking so sharp then. You'll be trying to find a hiding spot in the rocks.

I agree, the organized religions are teaching and practicing pure falsehood in most cases, but that doesn't make the Bible untrue and God unreal. As far as engineering the heavens goes, God warned through His prophet Jeremiah about measuring the heavens. Jeremiah 31:37. Such grandiose ideas are more than likely unrealizable anyway so not worth the mental effort to think about.

Best to think about engineering a little bit of Utopia here on earth instead. Now that's worth thinking about and doing.

[Aegist]

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Don't say I didn't tell you so when the first great earthquake hits along with the other signs mentioned in Revelation 6:12-17. You guys won't be talking so sharp then. You'll be trying to find a hiding spot in the rocks.

I would say "Are you serious?", but I know well enough that you are.

But how can you say "The first great earthquake"? What about the 8.7 earthquake in Northern Sumatra Indonesia in 2005? Or the 9.0 EQ off the west coast of Sumatra that caused the Tsunami 26 Dec 2004? Of what about the 9.5 magnitude earthquake in Chile in 1960? They were just test earthquakes?

Let me guess, the 'great' earthquakes will be much bigger? Yeah sure, I'll wait in fear for your magical scale 15 earthquakes, which I am quietly confident will never happen. And I'm also sure that when the next 9.5 comes along (and we all know it will) all of the nutty religious folk will start talking about Gods vengeance again...completely ignoring the fact that it has nothing to do with magical figures, and everything to do with simple geology.

http://www.factmonst...a/A0763403.html
http://www.factmonst...a/A0193595.html
http://en.wikipedia....jor_earthquakes

[mike250]

religious people love to mumble about this God-earthquake connection. The common notion is that the earthquake's strength depends on your deeds. the more good deeds you perform the lighter the earthquake. the more bad deeds you perform the stronger the earthquake. some ''scientific'' explanation.

[lucid]

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Don't say I didn't tell you so when the first great earthquake hits along with the other signs mentioned in Revelation 6:12-17. You guys won't be talking so sharp then. You'll be trying to find a hiding spot in the rocks.

Hmm i wonder if your prediction will come true.....???? Will there ever be a big earthquake to hit? Hmmm.
Some of Revelations I find unlikely though....:

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The sky receded like a scroll, rolling up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.

So yes when that does happen I won't feel so sharp and I will say: 'maybe elijah3 was right'. You wont catch me saying that after there is a big earthquake and an eclipse though.

[william7]

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But how can you say "The first great earthquake"?

The one described in Revelation 16:18-19 after that will be much worse and destroy the major cities. After that man will wise up and realize that living in small communal settlements - instead of large cities with large buildings - is the thing to do. Of course, those who are really wise will stay out major cities before these nasty earthquakes strike and devote themselves to communal living and the Word of God.

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religious people love to mumble about this God-earthquake connection. The common notion is that the earthquake's strength depends on your deeds. the more good deeds you perform the lighter the earthquake. the more bad deeds you perform the stronger the earthquake. some ''scientific'' explanation.

I don't think that's in the Bible though. Can you give me a verse on it?

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Hmm i wonder if your prediction will come true.....???? Will there ever be a big earthquake to hit? Hmmm.

National Geographic did an article on earthquakes titled the "Next Big One." http://www7.national...ure6/index.html. And, Time magazine
did one called "Lessons from the San Francisco earthquake" that quoted one scientist as saying "[t]he Hayward Fault is locked and loaded and it could fire at any time." http://www.time.com/...79365-3,00.html. I don't think it's wise to live in earthquake country in buildings that are likely to collapse and do harm to its occupants..

[lucid]

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Hmm i wonder if your prediction will come true.....???? Will there ever be a big earthquake to hit? Hmmm.

National Geographic did an article on earthquakes titled the "Next Big One." http://www7.national...ure6/index.html. And, Time magazine
did one called "Lessons from the San Francisco earthquake" that quoted one scientist as saying "[t]he Hayward Fault is locked and loaded and it could fire at any time." http://www.time.com/...79365-3,00.html. I don't think it's wise to live in earthquake country in buildings that are likely to collapse and do harm to its occupants..

My point is that predicting that there will be a large earthquake is about as good of a prediction as saying that it will rain in a grassland, on a tuesday and the first of the month when a parent has a child die..... Meaning of course it will happen.