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#61 JChief

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:10 AM

Maca seems like such crap to me. Never experienced anything worth mentioning and I gave it several tries. All the studies are sourced from one country which probably counts on it for economic reasons. I have decided maca is crap IMHO but YMMV. As for Sumatra Pasak Bumi you are absolutely correct. Whoever thumbed you down I hope it was for some other reason. There is so much overpriced tongkat out there its ridiculous.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 03:29 AM

I agree, Maca is crap, as far as my experience is concerned.

Get over the porn-negativity and wanking-negativity already. The majority of guys watch porn and wank all the time and have no problem. In fact, they are both beneficial on average. Both have been shown in studies to either raise testosterone levels or help prevent impotence in the long run.
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Posted 04 June 2012 - 04:57 PM

I agree, Maca is crap, as far as my experience is concerned.

Get over the porn-negativity and wanking-negativity already. The majority of guys watch porn and wank all the time and have no problem. In fact, they are both beneficial on average. Both have been shown in studies to either raise testosterone levels or help prevent impotence in the long run.


I have to agree here as well as far as maca goes - gave it several tries and I have yet to experience any sexual improvement from it - only thing I noticed is more physical endurance, but that didn't translate to increased erectile function or enhanced libido.

Ditto regarding the porn negativity - there's so much internet related crap being circulated.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 10:14 AM

Maca seems like such crap to me. Never experienced anything worth mentioning and I gave it several tries. All the studies are sourced from one country which probably counts on it for economic reasons. I have decided maca is crap IMHO but YMMV. As for Sumatra Pasak Bumi you are absolutely correct. Whoever thumbed you down I hope it was for some other reason. There is so much overpriced tongkat out there its ridiculous.


I ordered this one from iherb http://www.iherb.com...60-Tablets/1504

1:100 and 80mg per capsule... they say 2 a day but I saw no difference. Should I up it higher to 220mg (3 a day)

A bit annoying how this supplement seems to have a lot of controversy over it's suppliers... I see a lot of scammy affiliate sites trying to promote some too...

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 08:43 AM

I've been taking all kind of herbs for the past one year... Ashwagandha, rhodiola ans schizandra are my favorite. I will also add panax ginseng for the cycling period of rhodiola and coffee.

Al this I took in order to 'heal' or to normalize my body reaction on stress (anxiety, panic, brain fog, lack of confidence). And it turned really well and in one year I changed my personality in a better way. Ashwagandha is my number one, and without it I can't function normally

Since I noticed such a positive effect from herbs, I decided to try horny goat weed with maca because I read that it can boost my energy level, it is good against anxiety (maca)... all positive effects. It was not expensive so I gave it a try. I didn't care about sexual enhancement because I don't need this stuff due to perfect sexual life :)

I'm really sensitive person when we talk about supplements.. I can feel the benefits almost immediately, no matter what I take. It is not important for me to take something one week or more to say it works or no.

When horny goat arrived last week and I took it before bed, 30-40 minutes before sex, and oh my god, I had one of the best sex ever :) I decided to take it only on the day when I'm sure I will have sex. I took it 3 times and I can confirm that the sex is much better due to extremely hard and long lasting erections. This stuff makes me more sensitive, but on the same time I can have all under control :)

So, thumbs up for horny goat with maca (sometimes I add schizandra or rhodiola). Something I decided to try as replacement for coffee or energizer turned out to be natural viagra :)

It probably depends on each person, but this horny goat weed turns me into a porn star :) And I can confirm that you don't need to take it for let's say 3 weeks to start working. I take it only when needed and it makes miracles :)

Note: I'm in 30's, so I can function perfectly even without this stuff, but I can really feel the benefits and have even better sex when taken.
Will continue to use this for sure!

Edited by Andrey_81, 23 April 2013 - 08:45 AM.


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 07:19 PM

Steel Libido by Irwin Naturals - cheesy name but effective. I've been using this off and on to see if it works or just placebo, but I can definitely say it works (I'm 52). You can dose daily or hour or two before.

Ingredients are all pretty familiar. Not sure which of these is producing the results or if is synergistic.

Supplement Facts
Serving Size 4
Servings Per Container 18 Posted Image
Amount Per
Serving
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Arginine(L-ARGININE HYDROCHL
665 Mg
N/A* Posted Image
Maca Powder(Root)
265 Mg
N/A* Posted Image
Ashwagandha Powder(Root)
135 Mg
N/A* Posted Image
Horny Goat Weed Extract(Leaf)
135 Mg
N/A* Posted Image
Tribulus Terrestris Extract(AERIAL)
135 Mg
N/A* Posted Image
Yohimbe Bark Powder
135 Mg
N/A* Posted Image
CDP-CHOLINE
100 Mg
N/A* Posted Image
Dimethylglycine
65 Mg
N/A* Posted Image
Tyrosine(L-TYROSINE)
65 Mg
N/A* Posted Image
Dehydroepiandrosterone(Dhea)
3 Mg
N/A* Posted Image
Nadh(Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucledtide)
1 Mg
N/A* Posted Image
Bioperine ComplexGINGER ROOT EXTRACT, PIPER LONGUM EXTRACT, BIOPERINE BLACK PEPPER EXTRACT (FRUIT)
5 Mg
N/A*

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 06:26 PM

This seams like a 'best buy' offer:
TRIBULUS

I just ordered one... not for libido, but this could boost my confidence. Will see.


You seem to have an hidden agenda. That's how you come across to me...;

Edit: referral code removed from link. -moderator

Edited by niner, 08 October 2013 - 03:03 AM.


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Posted 09 October 2014 - 04:57 PM

Related thread that some may find useful... http://www.longecity...make-you-horny/



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Posted 09 October 2014 - 08:15 PM

I agree, Maca is crap, as far as my experience is concerned.

Get over the porn-negativity and wanking-negativity already. The majority of guys watch porn and wank all the time and have no problem. In fact, they are both beneficial on average. Both have been shown in studies to either raise testosterone levels or help prevent impotence in the long run.

Maca is really just a nutritional tonic, and although it does have some components that act as FAAH inhibitors and thus increase endogenous cannabinoid activitiy; it's "aphrodisiac" properties are well over rated...and very weak, to say the least. Now on the other hand, taking it daily for a while, a good extract, and combining it with other nutritional foods (because really, maca as with all herbs, are food) - this can result in some nice effects - particularly on stamina and fertility. It does seem to increase load size and also may help improve libido but not to the extent that most companies are bragging about. And..most importantly, it will not fix an underlying testosterone imbalance...estrogen excess etc

 

If you want real sexual enhancement...you need to do your research and dive into the deepest pharmacologica/nutraceutical area's.

Icariin is pretty decent, especially in combination with berberine or other PDE-5 expression modifiers .

 

On the pharma level, we have the big ones.

-PT-141, melanotan II

-Vasopressin and selective VP agonists/modulators.

-Oxytocin

-WAY 100,635

-Trazodone

-Requip and other dopaminergics

-SARMs and SERMs

 

The list goes on and on.

 

Personally, any kind of sexual enhancement is nice but not really necessary if you have the right mindset...

Also when saying "enhancement" you could be looking at multiple parameter's...enhancement means something different to everybody..


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Posted 10 October 2014 - 05:36 PM

So, thumbs up for horny goat with maca (sometimes I add schizandra or rhodiola). Something I decided to try as replacement for coffee or energizer turned out to be natural viagra :)

It probably depends on each person, but this horny goat weed turns me into a porn star :) And I can confirm that you don't need to take it for let's say 3 weeks to start working. I take it only when needed and it makes miracles :)

Note: I'm in 30's, so I can function perfectly even without this stuff, but I can really feel the benefits and have even better sex when taken.
Will continue to use this for sure!

Sounds like you had a great experience! What dosage of horny goat weed did you take and (importantly) what was the Icarriin percentage?



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Posted 12 October 2014 - 03:36 AM

I highly recommend maca. Yes, you can find drugs that give higher libido/harder erections but I still think it's good enough if you're a mostly healthy guy just looking for an extra boost. An advantage is that it's already widely eaten as food in South America so you know it's safe to take long-term and it's even been speculated some benefits for overall health. It also happens to be the only adaptogen I've tried with some noticeable effect in improving mood/sense of well-being, which is a definite plus since being stressed is the best way to kill libido.


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Posted 13 October 2014 - 12:17 PM

Steel Libido by Irwin Naturals - cheesy name but effective. I've been using this off and on to see if it works or just placebo, but I can definitely say it works (I'm 52). You can dose daily or hour or two before.
 

 

LoL That one made me feel and look like I had the flu, a BAD case of flu, even my eyes got bloody. But I got a boner and other day coupled with beers it gave me a drug high, pretty cool. I went out of the club and went running as fast as I could laughing maniacally... sweating like a pig . Yohimbe is a hell of a drug. I actually think this alcohol and yohimbe combination deserves more attention from those that enjoy altered states of consciousness, but it raises some concern as alone yohimbe is already dangerous,


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Posted 18 October 2014 - 05:10 AM

I never experienced any noticeable effect from maca. I was using gelatinized powder made by high quality brand. I used to take 5 g per day, on empty stomach. This is so hard to drink due to the bad taste and with zero effects I stopped to take it. I never had libido problems but cannot confirm that I felt any special or noticeable boost.

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Posted 18 October 2014 - 05:20 AM

For the past 2 months I've been using daily, 2,5 mg of yohimbine HCl. I started to take this as a coffee replacement and it helped. I'm so sensitive to this stuff that I still take only 2,5 mg per day. If I take more I have insomnia. I cannot imagine myself taking 10 mg or more. This stuff is just amazing, I take it on empty stomach every day and after 30 minutes I'm fully energized and focused. I still take one coffee to boost even more but with the help of yohimbine I lowered my coffee intake to only one in the morning, so this helps like I planed. With only 2,5 mg I cannot say that I feel any libido boost or any unwanted erections. It's difficult for me to take it before sex (during the night) because if I take it before bed I can say goodbye to my sleep. Therefore yohimbine is not that practical stuff. In larger doses probably gives you harder erections but how to sleep after this??

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Posted 18 October 2014 - 11:55 AM

 

I agree, Maca is crap, as far as my experience is concerned.

Get over the porn-negativity and wanking-negativity already. The majority of guys watch porn and wank all the time and have no problem. In fact, they are both beneficial on average. Both have been shown in studies to either raise testosterone levels or help prevent impotence in the long run.

Maca is really just a nutritional tonic, and although it does have some components that act as FAAH inhibitors and thus increase endogenous cannabinoid activitiy; it's "aphrodisiac" properties are well over rated...and very weak, to say the least. Now on the other hand, taking it daily for a while, a good extract, and combining it with other nutritional foods (because really, maca as with all herbs, are food) - this can result in some nice effects - particularly on stamina and fertility. It does seem to increase load size and also may help improve libido but not to the extent that most companies are bragging about. And..most importantly, it will not fix an underlying testosterone imbalance...estrogen excess etc

 

If you want real sexual enhancement...you need to do your research and dive into the deepest pharmacologica/nutraceutical area's.

Icariin is pretty decent, especially in combination with berberine or other PDE-5 expression modifiers .

 

On the pharma level, we have the big ones.

-PT-141, melanotan II

-Vasopressin and selective VP agonists/modulators.

-Oxytocin

-WAY 100,635

-Trazodone

-Requip and other dopaminergics

-SARMs and SERMs

 

The list goes on and on.

 

Personally, any kind of sexual enhancement is nice but not really necessary if you have the right mindset...

Also when saying "enhancement" you could be looking at multiple parameter's...enhancement means something different to everybody..

 

 

It seem like a great list! I am aware of what some of them are used for, but could you give a brief description of the positives for each? Food for thought for me and the rest of the people reading this thread, thanks.



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Posted 18 October 2014 - 12:20 PM

 

 

I agree, Maca is crap, as far as my experience is concerned.

Get over the porn-negativity and wanking-negativity already. The majority of guys watch porn and wank all the time and have no problem. In fact, they are both beneficial on average. Both have been shown in studies to either raise testosterone levels or help prevent impotence in the long run.

Maca is really just a nutritional tonic, and although it does have some components that act as FAAH inhibitors and thus increase endogenous cannabinoid activitiy; it's "aphrodisiac" properties are well over rated...and very weak, to say the least. Now on the other hand, taking it daily for a while, a good extract, and combining it with other nutritional foods (because really, maca as with all herbs, are food) - this can result in some nice effects - particularly on stamina and fertility. It does seem to increase load size and also may help improve libido but not to the extent that most companies are bragging about. And..most importantly, it will not fix an underlying testosterone imbalance...estrogen excess etc

 

If you want real sexual enhancement...you need to do your research and dive into the deepest pharmacologica/nutraceutical area's.

Icariin is pretty decent, especially in combination with berberine or other PDE-5 expression modifiers .

 

On the pharma level, we have the big ones.

-PT-141, melanotan II

-Vasopressin and selective VP agonists/modulators.

-Oxytocin

-WAY 100,635

-Trazodone

-Requip and other dopaminergics

-SARMs and SERMs

 

The list goes on and on.

 

Personally, any kind of sexual enhancement is nice but not really necessary if you have the right mindset...

Also when saying "enhancement" you could be looking at multiple parameter's...enhancement means something different to everybody..

 

 

It seem like a great list! I am aware of what some of them are used for, but could you give a brief description of the positives for each? Food for thought for me and the rest of the people reading this thread, thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

Sure thing, Oxytocin would yield anxiolytic / anxiety relieving properties, and can help increase bonding and passionate feelings, as well as being erectogenic and it also may enhance orgasm. 

Vasopressin is similar but a more masculine form of oxytocin, and generally is regarded as one of the strongest aphrodisiacs, especially in the presence of testosterone which enhances it's effects. Vasopressin stimulates sexual arousal and libido both.

WAY 100 635 is serotonin 5-ht1A antagonist and dopamine d4 specific agonist - it is potent and produces both behavioral effects and erectogenic effects, and also may lower cortisol and prolactin leading to increases in testosterone. It can help contribute to making the pervy kinda sex adddict type personality due to it's dual modulation properties, but goes much further beyond dopaminergics because it can act to modulate serotonin induced cell firing and calcium channel release.

 

Being that it is a 5-ht1a antagonist, on both presynaptic autoreceptors and postsynaptic receptors, it would also increase serotonin induced oxytocin and erectile response by 5-ht2c receptor. In addition , the postsynaptic blocking effect would enhance both histamine and NMDA activity - both of which are prosexual in regards to responses.

 

Trazodone will stop adrenaline induced vasoconstriction and may help performance anxiety this way - and it has anti-depressant effects and is well known for inducing long lasting spontaneous erections, even in older men...

 

Requip and other dopaminergics mainly increase libido , but may also help treat both male and female hyposexual disorder

 

SARMs are androgen receptor modulators, and can seleectively enhance androgen activity leading to increased sexual response, more confidence and less anxiety...serms modulate estrogen and can increase hypothalamic output leading to more testosterone.

SARMs also show potential for enlargement / and girth increases due to their ability to selectively stimulate the AR without blowing up the prostate.

 

PT-141 and melanotan II are selective melanocortin agents that also activate the hypothalamus, but via a different pathway than the above..they mainly increase libido, but as such may also affect responses.

 

Lastly, opiate antagonists may be used to enhance testosterone pulses and secretion, and may also disinhibit oxytocin and nnos..leading to less anxiety on some ends , although this will depend on the person because these drugs may cause anxiety for others..for me they don't though they just give a kinda out of it feel without caffeine.

However, i have multiple mutations on gaba (c45-GABA-ss2) and serotonin terminals ( variant but less severe of prader willi ) as well as the warrior gene so this might be part of it.


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Posted 18 October 2014 - 02:05 PM

 

 

 

I agree, Maca is crap, as far as my experience is concerned.

Get over the porn-negativity and wanking-negativity already. The majority of guys watch porn and wank all the time and have no problem. In fact, they are both beneficial on average. Both have been shown in studies to either raise testosterone levels or help prevent impotence in the long run.

Maca is really just a nutritional tonic, and although it does have some components that act as FAAH inhibitors and thus increase endogenous cannabinoid activitiy; it's "aphrodisiac" properties are well over rated...and very weak, to say the least. Now on the other hand, taking it daily for a while, a good extract, and combining it with other nutritional foods (because really, maca as with all herbs, are food) - this can result in some nice effects - particularly on stamina and fertility. It does seem to increase load size and also may help improve libido but not to the extent that most companies are bragging about. And..most importantly, it will not fix an underlying testosterone imbalance...estrogen excess etc

 

If you want real sexual enhancement...you need to do your research and dive into the deepest pharmacologica/nutraceutical area's.

Icariin is pretty decent, especially in combination with berberine or other PDE-5 expression modifiers .

 

On the pharma level, we have the big ones.

-PT-141, melanotan II

-Vasopressin and selective VP agonists/modulators.

-Oxytocin

-WAY 100,635

-Trazodone

-Requip and other dopaminergics

-SARMs and SERMs

 

The list goes on and on.

 

Personally, any kind of sexual enhancement is nice but not really necessary if you have the right mindset...

Also when saying "enhancement" you could be looking at multiple parameter's...enhancement means something different to everybody..

 

 

It seem like a great list! I am aware of what some of them are used for, but could you give a brief description of the positives for each? Food for thought for me and the rest of the people reading this thread, thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

Sure thing, Oxytocin would yield anxiolytic / anxiety relieving properties, and can help increase bonding and passionate feelings, as well as being erectogenic and it also may enhance orgasm. 

Vasopressin is similar but a more masculine form of oxytocin, and generally is regarded as one of the strongest aphrodisiacs, especially in the presence of testosterone which enhances it's effects. Vasopressin stimulates sexual arousal and libido both.

WAY 100 635 is serotonin 5-ht1A antagonist and dopamine d4 specific agonist - it is potent and produces both behavioral effects and erectogenic effects, and also may lower cortisol and prolactin leading to increases in testosterone. It can help contribute to making the pervy kinda sex adddict type personality due to it's dual modulation properties, but goes much further beyond dopaminergics because it can act to modulate serotonin induced cell firing and calcium channel release.

 

Being that it is a 5-ht1a antagonist, on both presynaptic autoreceptors and postsynaptic receptors, it would also increase serotonin induced oxytocin and erectile response by 5-ht2c receptor. In addition , the postsynaptic blocking effect would enhance both histamine and NMDA activity - both of which are prosexual in regards to responses.

 

Trazodone will stop adrenaline induced vasoconstriction and may help performance anxiety this way - and it has anti-depressant effects and is well known for inducing long lasting spontaneous erections, even in older men...

 

Requip and other dopaminergics mainly increase libido , but may also help treat both male and female hyposexual disorder

 

SARMs are androgen receptor modulators, and can seleectively enhance androgen activity leading to increased sexual response, more confidence and less anxiety...serms modulate estrogen and can increase hypothalamic output leading to more testosterone.

SARMs also show potential for enlargement / and girth increases due to their ability to selectively stimulate the AR without blowing up the prostate.

 

PT-141 and melanotan II are selective melanocortin agents that also activate the hypothalamus, but via a different pathway than the above..they mainly increase libido, but as such may also affect responses.

 

Lastly, opiate antagonists may be used to enhance testosterone pulses and secretion, and may also disinhibit oxytocin and nnos..leading to less anxiety on some ends , although this will depend on the person because these drugs may cause anxiety for others..for me they don't though they just give a kinda out of it feel without caffeine.

However, i have multiple mutations on gaba (c45-GABA-ss2) and serotonin terminals ( variant but less severe of prader willi ) as well as the warrior gene so this might be part of it.

 

 

Great post, appreciated! Where are you getting the psychopharmacological information regarding sexual behavior? Any specific source/sources, or from reading research on line? I got couple leading resources (books) from Amazon something like five years ago, but I was not impressed, where not particularly informative, not to discuss the almost complete lack of possible practical application.



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Posted 18 October 2014 - 03:03 PM

 

 

 

 

I agree, Maca is crap, as far as my experience is concerned.

Get over the porn-negativity and wanking-negativity already. The majority of guys watch porn and wank all the time and have no problem. In fact, they are both beneficial on average. Both have been shown in studies to either raise testosterone levels or help prevent impotence in the long run.

Maca is really just a nutritional tonic, and although it does have some components that act as FAAH inhibitors and thus increase endogenous cannabinoid activitiy; it's "aphrodisiac" properties are well over rated...and very weak, to say the least. Now on the other hand, taking it daily for a while, a good extract, and combining it with other nutritional foods (because really, maca as with all herbs, are food) - this can result in some nice effects - particularly on stamina and fertility. It does seem to increase load size and also may help improve libido but not to the extent that most companies are bragging about. And..most importantly, it will not fix an underlying testosterone imbalance...estrogen excess etc

 

If you want real sexual enhancement...you need to do your research and dive into the deepest pharmacologica/nutraceutical area's.

Icariin is pretty decent, especially in combination with berberine or other PDE-5 expression modifiers .

 

On the pharma level, we have the big ones.

-PT-141, melanotan II

-Vasopressin and selective VP agonists/modulators.

-Oxytocin

-WAY 100,635

-Trazodone

-Requip and other dopaminergics

-SARMs and SERMs

 

The list goes on and on.

 

Personally, any kind of sexual enhancement is nice but not really necessary if you have the right mindset...

Also when saying "enhancement" you could be looking at multiple parameter's...enhancement means something different to everybody..

 

 

It seem like a great list! I am aware of what some of them are used for, but could you give a brief description of the positives for each? Food for thought for me and the rest of the people reading this thread, thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

Sure thing, Oxytocin would yield anxiolytic / anxiety relieving properties, and can help increase bonding and passionate feelings, as well as being erectogenic and it also may enhance orgasm. 

Vasopressin is similar but a more masculine form of oxytocin, and generally is regarded as one of the strongest aphrodisiacs, especially in the presence of testosterone which enhances it's effects. Vasopressin stimulates sexual arousal and libido both.

WAY 100 635 is serotonin 5-ht1A antagonist and dopamine d4 specific agonist - it is potent and produces both behavioral effects and erectogenic effects, and also may lower cortisol and prolactin leading to increases in testosterone. It can help contribute to making the pervy kinda sex adddict type personality due to it's dual modulation properties, but goes much further beyond dopaminergics because it can act to modulate serotonin induced cell firing and calcium channel release.

 

Being that it is a 5-ht1a antagonist, on both presynaptic autoreceptors and postsynaptic receptors, it would also increase serotonin induced oxytocin and erectile response by 5-ht2c receptor. In addition , the postsynaptic blocking effect would enhance both histamine and NMDA activity - both of which are prosexual in regards to responses.

 

Trazodone will stop adrenaline induced vasoconstriction and may help performance anxiety this way - and it has anti-depressant effects and is well known for inducing long lasting spontaneous erections, even in older men...

 

Requip and other dopaminergics mainly increase libido , but may also help treat both male and female hyposexual disorder

 

SARMs are androgen receptor modulators, and can seleectively enhance androgen activity leading to increased sexual response, more confidence and less anxiety...serms modulate estrogen and can increase hypothalamic output leading to more testosterone.

SARMs also show potential for enlargement / and girth increases due to their ability to selectively stimulate the AR without blowing up the prostate.

 

PT-141 and melanotan II are selective melanocortin agents that also activate the hypothalamus, but via a different pathway than the above..they mainly increase libido, but as such may also affect responses.

 

Lastly, opiate antagonists may be used to enhance testosterone pulses and secretion, and may also disinhibit oxytocin and nnos..leading to less anxiety on some ends , although this will depend on the person because these drugs may cause anxiety for others..for me they don't though they just give a kinda out of it feel without caffeine.

However, i have multiple mutations on gaba (c45-GABA-ss2) and serotonin terminals ( variant but less severe of prader willi ) as well as the warrior gene so this might be part of it.

 

 

Great post, appreciated! Where are you getting the psychopharmacological information regarding sexual behavior? Any specific source/sources, or from reading research on line? I got couple leading resources (books) from Amazon something like five years ago, but I was not impressed, where not particularly informative, not to discuss the almost complete lack of possible practical application.

 

Yeup, always use your common sense and logic in the matter, deductive thinking is important when trying to find out how and why to apply in a particular situation...and more importantly, if it applies to YOU!



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Posted 21 October 2014 - 02:17 PM

However, i have multiple mutations on gaba (c45-GABA-ss2) and serotonin terminals ( variant but less severe of prader willi ) as well as the warrior gene so this might be part of it.

 

Wait wait wait.. What is this "warrior gene" you speak of? And well done, thanks for the info on the list.



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Posted 21 October 2014 - 08:09 PM

 

However, i have multiple mutations on gaba (c45-GABA-ss2) and serotonin terminals ( variant but less severe of prader willi ) as well as the warrior gene so this might be part of it.

 

Wait wait wait.. What is this "warrior gene" you speak of? And well done, thanks for the info on the list.

 

The "MAO-L" modified allele/partial deletion - causes MAO enzymes to not function properly , leaving the prevalence of increased monoamines not only persistent but irreversible. Creates an overstimulated mindset, but helps me make decisions better as well - due to increased vigilance and analytical behavior..though that comes from other gene mutations as well...seeing as most of my family are philosophers and explorers.

 

All about the  "Warrior Gene"

 

http://omim.org/entry/309850


Edited by Area-1255, 21 October 2014 - 08:15 PM.


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 08:51 PM

as said before Tongkat ali from the sumatra pasak bumi region. This is the only herb that still works.

The others such as maca ,ashwangdha no longer work even after several months off. When I first used them they worked well, especially the jacked up maca version from root of the matter.

It feels like I've developed a permement tolerance to all ginseng varients. Shame is it was more cost effect then tongkat ali, even though it is in a different league.

 

 

 

 






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