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#1 theone

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 06:52 AM


A community of dwarfs living in a remote corner of Ecuador could hold the key to curing cancer, according to scientists.
The Laron dwarfs, who are in perfect proportion but grow only to an average height of 4ft, appear to be immune to all forms of the disease and are long-lived.
Now scientists studying a hormone present in other humans but which is lacking in the dwarfs believe their findings could lead to the development of an effective anti-cancer drug.
Leading British cancer experts have welcomed the research, which they said could be important in preventing the killer disease.
There are a little more than 300 people in the world with the condition Laron dwarfism, a third of whom live in remote villages in Ecuador’s southern Loja province.
Sufferers of Laron – believed to be caused by inbreeding – lack a hormone called Insulin-like Growth Factor 1, or IGF1.

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Resveratrol down regulates IGF-1, but what dosage is required to completely silence this gene? Are any of you aware of other substance that are more effect at down regulating IGF-1 than Resveratrol?

This is assuming you have already reached your maximum hight.

This part really caught my attention. This could be another explanation for the life extension properties of Resveratrol.

Research has also been carried out by Dr Valter Longo at the University of Southern California. When he reproduced the Laron mutation in mice, he found that they lived ten times longer than normal mice.


Edited by theone, 20 August 2008 - 07:00 AM.


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Posted 20 August 2008 - 06:34 PM

This part really caught my attention. This could be another explanation for the life extension properties of Resveratrol.

Research has also been carried out by Dr Valter Longo at the University of Southern California. When he reproduced the Laron mutation in mice, he found that they lived ten times longer than normal mice.


(1) Do Laron dwarves live 10x longer than regular people?

(2) Is the suppression of IGF-1 the cause or correlated with Laron mutation? In other words, suppressing IGF-1 may not have the same effect as introducin Laron mutation.

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 10:42 PM

This part really caught my attention. This could be another explanation for the life extension properties of Resveratrol.

Research has also been carried out by Dr Valter Longo at the University of Southern California. When he reproduced the Laron mutation in mice, he found that they lived ten times longer than normal mice.


(1) Do Laron dwarves live 10x longer than regular people?

(2) Is the suppression of IGF-1 the cause or correlated with Laron mutation? In other words, suppressing IGF-1 may not have the same effect as introducin Laron mutation.



(1) Do Laron dwarves live 10x longer than regular people?


They dont live 10X longer, but they do live longer than the average person. From my understanding they still have some IGF-1 activity unlike the mice.

(2) Is the suppression of IGF-1 the cause or correlated with Laron mutation? In other words, suppressing IGF-1 may not have the same effect as introducin Laron mutation.


I dont know, but the bit a reading I have done on the mice it looks like they completely knocked out IGF-1. This would mean that IGF-1 is the cause of Laron mutation rather than the other way a around.

Edited by theone, 20 August 2008 - 10:44 PM.


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Posted 20 August 2008 - 11:26 PM

What is the IGF-1 profile of people following a CR diet?

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 11:30 PM

how do they know they live longer when they don't have birth records? living longer,does that mean 85-90 or well over 100?

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 01:33 AM

Research has also been carried out by Dr Valter Longo at the University of Southern California. When he reproduced the Laron mutation in mice, he found that they lived ten times longer than normal mice.


Wouldn't this automatically win him the longevity prize of the Mprize assuming they were the right subspecies of mouse?

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 02:51 AM

Found this on Wikipedia, may not be all desireable.....

Clinical characteristics
The principal feature of Laron syndrome is abnormally short stature (dwarfism). Physical symptoms include: prominent forehead, depressed nasal bridge, under-development of mandible, truncal obesity[5] and a very small penis. Seizures are frequently secondary to hypoglycemia. Some genetic variations have an impact upon intellectual capacity.[6]

The majority of reported cases have been of Mediterranean or semitic origin, with numerous patients in Israel, Ecuador, Turkey and in the Bahamas.


Edited by resvhead, 21 August 2008 - 02:53 AM.


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Posted 21 August 2008 - 02:55 AM

Research has also been carried out by Dr Valter Longo at the University of Southern California. When he reproduced the Laron mutation in mice, he found that they lived ten times longer than normal mice.


I thought mice live 2 to 3 years so they are saying this experiment has run for 20 to 30 years. Something smells fishy here...

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 03:25 AM

Found this on Wikipedia, may not be all desireable.....

Clinical characteristics
The principal feature of Laron syndrome is abnormally short stature (dwarfism). Physical symptoms include: prominent forehead, depressed nasal bridge, under-development of mandible, truncal obesity[5] and a very small penis. Seizures are frequently secondary to hypoglycemia. Some genetic variations have an impact upon intellectual capacity.[6]

The majority of reported cases have been of Mediterranean or semitic origin, with numerous patients in Israel, Ecuador, Turkey and in the Bahamas.



Hahaha...

#10 theone

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 10:08 PM

Found this on Wikipedia, may not be all desireable.....

Clinical characteristics
The principal feature of Laron syndrome is abnormally short stature (dwarfism). Physical symptoms include: prominent forehead, depressed nasal bridge, under-development of mandible, truncal obesity[5] and a very small penis. Seizures are frequently secondary to hypoglycemia. Some genetic variations have an impact upon intellectual capacity.[6]

The majority of reported cases have been of Mediterranean or semitic origin, with numerous patients in Israel, Ecuador, Turkey and in the Bahamas.



Hahaha...


I thought mice live 2 to 3 years so they are saying this experiment has run for 20 to 30 years. Something smells fishy here...


This is what I am thinking as well, but I checked with other online sources and it does not seem to by a typo. I am assuming the University of Southern California is a repeatable institution so what gives.


Hahaha...


I would take a small penis in order to live 10X longer. :)

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 11:48 PM

A old article from the NYT has some more info. 10X longer? If the mice were first developed 20-30 years ago they would just be dying now. Something is wrong.

August 17, 2004
In Aging, Being Small May Have Its Advantages
By INGFEI CHEN
In a brick research building at Southern Illinois University, midget rodents are teaching gerontologists that smallness has its advantages in the rat race of survival.

On a recent day here, standing amid metal shelves stacked with plastic bins of mice, Dr. Andrzej Bartke, an endocrinologist, pulled a normal-sized female mouse from Cage 25. In rodent terms, she was a senior citizen -- 2 years old. Her brown fur had lost its sheen and was thinning.

''Her back is coming up,'' said Dr. Bartke, gently tracing a finger along a distorted arch in her spine, sort of a mouse's dowager hump. The female came from a strain that lives two years on average, so her hourglass was running low.

But two cagemates of the same age were Dorian Grays: only about half as large, they still looked like sleek, healthy furballs. ''When the normals start looking like old mice, these guys still look fine,'' Dr. Bartke said.

On average, the midgets -- called Ames dwarfs -- live 50 percent longer, to 3 years old. The difference in survival is ''absolutely huge,'' said Dr. Bartke, director of geriatric research at the university's medical school. ''If you wanted to translate to average life expectancy in the human, this means going from 75 to something like 110.''

Dr. Bartke's laboratory first published a study reporting the extended longevity of the Ames dwarfs in 1996. Other researchers have since documented a similar increase in mice called Snell dwarfs. Labs elsewhere have reported that two additional types of mice, including a genetically engineered strain, are also Methuselahs.

Although the different mouse strains have various hormonal abnormalities, they share a common trait; they are deficient in or cannot respond to growth hormone, the substance that prompts the liver to churn out another hormone called IGF-1, for insulin-like growth factor. That factor, in turn, stimulates cells to divide and tissues to mature. The two hormones are critical for normal development.

With the dwarf mouse studies, a paradox about growth hormone and aging has emerged. In people, growth hormone naturally dwindles with age. Scientists suspect that this decline contributes to weakened muscles, thinner bones, increased flab and higher odds of diabetes and heart disease. That is why some doctors, and countless Web sites, claim that injections of human growth hormone, or H.G.H., can build muscle and counter the effects of aging, even though the Food and Drug Administration approves it only for treating shortness in children and growth hormone deficiency in adults.

But the mouse research has led Dr. Bartke and other gerontologists to a counterintuitive and controversial theory: that having more growth hormone and IGF-1, as Dr. Bartke put it, is ''not optimal for longevity.''

The long-lived Ames and Snell mice carry natural mutations that make them deficient in growth hormone. The mutations cripple the pituitary gland's release of other important hormones, too; lacking thyroid-stimulating hormone and a reproductive hormone called prolactin, the mice tend to be sluggish, chubby and infertile. ''Dwarf mice would never win any athletic or beauty contest,'' said Dr. Richard Miller, a pathology professor at the University of Michigan Medical School, who studies Snell mice.
Other puny rodents designed with isolated growth-hormone defects have fewer troubles. For instance, Dr. John Kopchick, a molecular endocrinologist at the Ohio University College of Osteopathic Medicine in Athens, created mice that produce growth hormone but cannot respond to it. Called Laron dwarfs, they are fertile and live as much as 50 percent longer than normal mice. The oldest mouse on record, which lived nearly five years, was a Laron dwarf.

After the discovery of the Ames dwarfs' impressive longevity, ''a whole lot of stuff started to make sense,'' said Dr. Steven Austad, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Texas Health Science Center in San Antonio.

Dr. Bartke's finding dovetailed with studies of microscopic mutant roundworms that survive two or three times as long as normal. Many skeptics, Dr. Austad included, initially doubted that the worms offered any clues to how mammals age. In 1997, however, Harvard geneticists showed that the hardy worms carried a defect in a network of genes controlled by a protein similar to human insulin and IGF-1. That Ames dwarfs were also long-lived gave credence to the idea that the same genetic pathway might regulate life span in worms and in mammals.

Moreover, the dwarf mouse research fit with the observation that smaller members of a species tend to live longer, Dr. Austad said. Among dogs, for example, Great Danes and Irish wolfhounds typically develop age-related problems and die before they reach 10, while Chihuahuas and miniature poodles commonly last 15 years.

The situation with humans is less clear. Some studies, including one of professional baseball players, have concluded that taller people die younger. But Dr. Austad said those results were shaky because they failed to adjust for complicating factors like as smoking and socioeconomic background; other studies, with better controls, have reached the opposite conclusion. Meanwhile, Dr. Kopchick said, data on human dwarfs are sparse and conflicting.

The dwarf mice also taught scientists another important lesson. In mammals, aging is so complicated that few gerontologists thought it could be profoundly influenced by changing one gene. The Ames and Snell mice studies challenge this view. ''Aging can be slowed down,'' Dr. Miller of Michigan said. Studies from his laboratory and others indicate that compared with ordinary mice, the dwarfs experience delayed development of osteoarthritis, cataracts, memory problems and age-related changes in the immune system. They also display superior defenses against harmful stresses, like exposure to free radicals that can damage cells and DNA.

In a study published last year, Dr. Miller's team grew tail cells from Snell dwarfs in petri dishes. When exposed to lethal stresses like heat shock and peroxide, which generates free radicals, the cells showed higher survival rates than normal.

The dwarf mouse researchers speculate that the key to longevity lies in the insulin or IGF-1 genetic pathways. Unlike growth-spurring IGF-1, insulin plays a mainly metabolic role, ushering sugar into cells from the blood. The midget mice have low blood levels of IGF-1 and insulin, yet are highly sensitive to insulin's effects, Dr. Bartke said. The same is true of rodents placed on a calorie-restricted diet, the only other strategy known to stretch longevity in rats and mice. The scientists speculate that such hormonal changes somehow put animals into a survival mode that bolsters their resistance to stress.

But critics say it is premature to blame insulin, IGF-1 or growth hormone for shortening life span. ''To say that the effects are due to growth hormone is flawed,'' said Dr. William Sonntag, a professor of physiology and pharmacology at the Wake Forest University School of Medicine.

The Snell and Ames dwarfs' lack of thyroid hormone may be what is changing their longevity, Dr. Sonntag said. Similarly, he noted, the Laron dwarfs have slightly depressed thyroid hormone levels as a secondary effect of being unresponsive to growth hormone. ''It ends up being a very complicated model,'' he said.

But Dr. Bartke cites other experiments to support his case. When French scientists designed mice with an impaired ability to respond to IGF-1, the females survived 33 percent longer. And in a Harvard report last year, mice whose fat cells were immune to insulin's effects gained an 18 percent edge in longevity.

In several studies, Dr. Bartke said, disrupting the insulin-like pathway, or its equivalent, increased life span not just in worms and mice but also in fruit flies and yeast, implying that the mechanism has deep roots in evolutionary history.

For now, the implications of the Methuselah mouse studies for clinical uses of growth hormone are unclear.

Some gerontologists worry that hormone treatments might curtail longevity. ''All of the animal data point in one direction,'' Dr. Austad said. ''So it suggests to me at least that we need to be pretty darned cautious about this stuff.'' Giving children H.G.H. shots is of particular concern, he said, because it is theoretically possible that the critical period of growth that determines one's longevity occurs before puberty.

But Dr. Pinchas Cohen, chief of pediatric endocrinology at Mattel Children's Hospital at the University of California, Los Angeles, said the mouse models were so complex and hard to understand that their relevance to growth hormone therapy remained ''entirely speculative.''

IGF-1 has good and bad effects in people, so the picture is complicated, Dr. Cohen said. Adults with a severe deficiency often get heart disease and die young unless treated with growth hormone. But high concentrations of IGF-1 have been linked to cancer. Treatment to restore growth hormone to normal levels in short children carefully weighs the risks and benefits and provides substantial physical and psychosocial benefits, he said.

Likewise, scientists are trying to figure out the pros and cons of H.G.H. replacement in the elderly. Although clinical trials have found that the injections raise energy, trim body fat, and build muscle mass and bone density, those changes have not translated into more strength or greater independence for old people, said Dr. Marc Blackman, chief of the endocrine section at the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine in Bethesda, Md.

The suggestions from the dwarf mouse research that growth hormone may promote aging are ''a sober warning'' that should prompt further inquiry, Dr. Blackman said. But he, too, questioned whether the mouse studies were pertinent for humans. In people, a central puzzle is whether the natural drop in growth hormone harms or helps. As Dr. Blackman said, ''We don't know the true answer to that.''


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Posted 23 August 2008 - 07:25 PM

OBJECTIVE—Hypovitaminosis D and reduced IGF-1 are associated, individually, with metabolic syndrome. Physiological interactions between vitamin D and IGF-1 are reported; this is the first study to investigate their combined associations with metabolic syndrome prevalence.

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Metabolic interaction has been reported between the vitamin D and IGF-1 axes experimentally with evidence to show that IGF-1 exerts some effects through changes in vitamin D activation while 1,25(OH)2D in turn modulates the regulation of IGF-1 axis genes (1618,37). We demonstrate a clear positive association between higher vitamin D status and increased circulating IGF-1 concentration, an association independent of important putative confounders, such as lifestyle factors and adiposity. Circulating IGF-1 was observed to increase steeply up to, but not above, serum 25(OH)D concentrations of 75–85 nmol/l. The suggestion of a plateau for the association between 25(OH)D and IGF-1 at around 75–85 nmol/l is intriguing in light of accumulating evidence suggesting that optimal adult 25(OH)D concentrations are likely to be Posted Image75 nmol/l (38).


25-Hydroxyvitamin D, IGF-1, and Metabolic Syndrome at 45 Years of Age

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 03:12 AM

A old article from the NYT has some more info. 10X longer? If the mice were first developed 20-30 years ago they would just be dying now. Something is wrong.

It sure looks that way. PubMeding Longo VD "10-fold" just gives a pair of yeast articles.

Exp Gerontol. 2008 Jun 24. [Epub ahead of print]
Linking sirtuins, IGF-I signaling, and starvation.
Longo VD.
Department of Biological Sciences, University of Southern California, 3715 McClintock Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90089, USA.

Our studies in yeast have shown that the down-regulation of major signal transduction mediators increases stress resistance and causes an up to 10 fold chronological life span extension. Whereas other laboratories have proposed that sirtuins (Sir2 and its homologs), a family of conserved proteins which are NAD(+)-dependent histone deacetylases, can extend longevity in various model organisms, we propose that one sirtuin, i.e., Sir2, can also accelerate cellular aging and death. In Saccharomyces cerevisiae (yeast), the deletion of Sir2 increases DNA damage but in combination with longevity mutations in principal intracellular signal transduction mediators, or in combination with calorie restriction it causes a further increase in the chronological lifespan as well as an increase in the stress resistance and a major reduction in age-dependent genomic instability. Our recent results also provide evidence for a role of the mammalian Sir2 ortholog SirT1 in the activation of a highly conserved neuronal pathway and in the sensitization of neurons to oxidative damage. However, the mean lifespan of the SirT1(+/-) mice is not different from that of wild type animals, and the survival of SirT1(-/-) mice was reduced under both normal and calorie restricted conditions. Here, I review the studies linking SirT1, IGF-I signaling and starvation in various model organisms with a focus on the post-mitotic cells, which indicate that sirtuins can play both protective and pro-aging roles.

PMID: 18638538

PLoS Genet. 2008 Jan;4(1):e13.
Life span extension by calorie restriction depends on Rim15 and transcription factors downstream of Ras/PKA, Tor, and Sch9.
Wei M, Fabrizio P, Hu J, Ge H, Cheng C, Li L, Longo VD.
Andrus Gerontology Center, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, California, United States of America.

Calorie restriction (CR), the only non-genetic intervention known to slow aging and extend life span in organisms ranging from yeast to mice, has been linked to the down-regulation of Tor, Akt, and Ras signaling. In this study, we demonstrate that the serine/threonine kinase Rim15 is required for yeast chronological life span extension caused by deficiencies in Ras2, Tor1, and Sch9, and by calorie restriction. Deletion of stress resistance transcription factors Gis1 and Msn2/4, which are positively regulated by Rim15, also caused a major although not complete reversion of the effect of calorie restriction on life span. The deletion of both RAS2 and the Akt and S6 kinase homolog SCH9 in combination with calorie restriction caused a remarkable 10-fold life span extension, which, surprisingly, was only partially reversed by the lack of Rim15. These results indicate that the Ras/cAMP/PKA/Rim15/Msn2/4 and the Tor/Sch9/Rim15/Gis1 pathways are major mediators of the calorie restriction-dependent stress resistance and life span extension, although additional mediators are involved. Notably, the anti-aging effect caused by the inactivation of both pathways is much more potent than that caused by CR.

PMID: 18225956

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 11:00 PM

If this is the case then knocking out IGF-1 could lead to the biggest increase in life span ever seen in human history. We are not talking about just a few years. You could be looking at hundreds of years when translated into humans.

Our studies in yeast have shown that the down-regulation of major signal transduction mediators increases stress resistance and causes an up to 10 fold chronological life span extension


Just to confirm. We have one study with mice and one with yeast. Both showing a 10X increase in life span.

Is it really this simple. Knock out one gene and you can potentially reach 500 years without any further intervention?

Edited by theone, 25 August 2008 - 11:01 PM.


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Posted 26 August 2008 - 12:18 AM

Just to confirm. We have one study with mice and one with yeast. Both showing a 10X increase in life span.

The longest credible extension for mice mentioned in this thread is +50%. The journalist may have claimed that Longo got a 10x increase in mice, but Longo has published nothing to confirm that. Journalists are sloppy, this one probably just got mixed up between mice and yeast.




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