I'm proud of my country now, after 8 years in the desert.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 09:38 AM
I'm proud of my country now, after 8 years in the desert.
Posted 20 January 2009 - 09:43 AM
Forget the unity of this country. Your side spent eight years annihilating Bush at every chance. Now it's time for payback.
Yes and this is the reason I have long suspected my country is not only headed for Civil War (again) and its own form of Balkinization but that our Civil War will be the real impetus for the most violent global war in human history. The Soviets were able to dissolve relatively non violently but I doubt this nation can.
No one does violence to Americans like Americans. We will probably end up being not only the first nation to use nukes in combat (and technically the last too) against a foreign nation but the first to use them against ourselves.
Oh and lest you foreign nationals gloat too much trust me, no one gets out alive. There will be no innocent bystanders, no neutral or sacred ground, should we go to war against ourselves we are the nation that claims you are either with us or against us and you will be forced to take sides or be overrun. When we go berserk the world will be lucky to survive the hangover.
Everyone here can easily prove me wrong, make this dire prophecy false and I would be glad if you do. It would simply require that everyone come to their senses and seek a form of reasonable reconciliation but I trust most see only one form of victory and that will be the death of us all. Your own included.
True victory is not predicated on the defeat of an enemy, it requires survival of the conflict intact and the ability to grow even stronger from the conflict and perhaps even unified with the former foe, blending strengths and ameliorating weakness but all that requires rational understanding and honest negotiation, something all too few appear capable of lately.
The only truth of who is right and wrong right now in America is that we are all armed and very dangerous. Might may not make right but it sure can make a bloody mess of things. You want a fight?
I suspect you very much underestimate the curse of being very careful about what you wish for because you just may get it.
Posted 20 January 2009 - 03:12 PM
Wow Laz, I haven't seen you this cynical before. I'm afraid I don't see civil war on our horizon. I don't know where you got the quote since I have some of the dead-enders on my ignored users list now. It's most helpful. I must say that it's a creepy example of the problem. There are quite a number of people like that in America, whipped into a frenzy by Right Wing Hate Radio, Fox News, and other propaganda outlets. I think their day in the sun is over. Even Rupert Murdoch has been said to be turning away from the Roger Ailes-style hard right approach. I think a lot of people on the Right are going to come around. A few dead-enders will remain bitter, withdraw somewhat from society, and turn to their guns as some sort of refuge. I hope that the Limbaughs, Coulters, Malkins, O'Reillys, and the rest of the hate-mongers will be further marginalized to the point that they can be nothing more than objects of pity. At the moment they are still trying to destroy our nation, but their star is fading.
Posted 20 January 2009 - 03:24 PM
I think you need to take a break from the Politics section for a while.
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