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[1newyorkguy]

I would like to increase the quality of my erections. With a condom, sex has been pretty hard (or not hard).
I am 30, vegetarian, non-smoker, in pretty good shape. I don't want to take yohimbe as I've read it can cause hair loss.

I've ordered the following supplements:

tongkat ali (source naturals)
ginkgo biloba
N-Acetyl L-Tyrosine
Ashwagandha

I already take DIM and occasionally panax ginseng. I've tried horny goat weed here and there, don't think it really did anything for me.

My other supplements I already take regularly:
turmeric
green tea
vitamin d
occasionally grape seed extract or resveratrol

Edited by 1newyorkguy, 09 February 2010 - 09:04 PM.

[DukeNukem]

IMO, weak erections are mostly caused by poor blood flow. Poor blood flow is mostly caused by plaqued-up arteries.

Vegetarians who eat a lot of grains, rice, tofu, and starches, especially, I think are highly prone to poor blood flow issues.

I strongly recommend getting blood work done to determine if I'm on the right track. If so, the right dietary and supplement advice is easy to give.

If you get your blood work done, you need to make sure the doctor measures your VLDL and Lp(a). LDL on its own is meaningless--despite what your good intentioned doctor might think. Also measure your C-reactive protein, HDL, trigs and serum vitamin D level.

[shaggy]

I can personally testify to AAKG having a significant effect on erection quality....


Up the resveratrol too, this can have a mild testoterone boosting effect which will also help with libido and vigour.

1: Arch Pharm Res. 2008 Jan;31(1):83-7.Links
trans-Resveratrol relaxes the corpus cavernosum ex vivo and enhances testosterone levels and sperm quality in vivo.Shin S, Jeon JH, Park D, Jang MJ, Choi JH, Choi BH, Joo SS, Nahm SS, Kim JC, Kim YB.
College of Veterinary Medicine, Chungbuk National University, Heungdeok-gu, Cheongju, Chungbuk 361-763, Korea.

We examined the effects of trans-resveratrol on male reproductive functions; ex-vivo penile erection and in-vivo sperm counts and quality. For the ex-vivo study, the relaxation effects of resveratrol on isolated New Zealand white rabbit corpus cavernosum, precontracted by phenylephrine (5x10(-5) M) were measured. The in-vivo study measured reproductive organ weights, blood testosterone levels, testicular histopathology, sperm counts, as well as the epididymal sperm motility and deformity of male ICR mice given an oral dose of resveratrol (50 mg/ kg) for 28 days. Resveratrol elicited a concentration-dependent relaxing effect on corpus cavernosum, leading to a median effective concentration (EC50) of 0.29 mg/mL. Repeated treatment with resveratrol (50 mg/kg) did not cause an increase in body weight, reproductive organ weight or testicular microscopic findings; however, resveratrol did elicit an increase in blood testosterone concentration, testicular sperm counts and epididymal sperm motility by 51.6%, 15.8% and 23.3%, respectively, without influence on sperm deformity. In conclusion, we propose that resveratrol has a positive effect on male reproductive function by triggering a penile erection, as well as enhancing blood testosterone levels, testicular sperm counts, and epididymal sperm motility.

Edited by shaggy, 09 February 2010 - 10:24 PM.

[4eva]

How come you don't take zinc? Vegetarian and vegan diets are high in copper and low in zinc. The best sources of zinc are animal protein. Pumpkin seeds have some zinc but also have copper and possibly phytates. So animal protein is the best source.

Zinc is important for male reproductive health and testosterone levels.

I think you would be better off taking zinc over DIM.

[1newyorkguy]

I can personally testify to AAKG having a significant effect on erection quality....


Up the resveratrol too, this can have a mild testoterone boosting effect which will also help with libido and vigour.

Does AAKG (arginine) have a negative effect on an HPV infection as it does with herpes?

[ajnast4r]

I can personally testify to AAKG having a significant effect on erection quality....


Up the resveratrol too, this can have a mild testoterone boosting effect which will also help with libido and vigour.

Does AAKG (arginine) have a negative effect on an HPV infection as it does with herpes?

makes sense. i wouldnt risk it.

is your erection quality weak only with a condom? is it weak during masturbating? sex wo a condom?

zinc will probably help... veg diets are high in copper.

[1newyorkguy]

I can personally testify to AAKG having a significant effect on erection quality....


Up the resveratrol too, this can have a mild testoterone boosting effect which will also help with libido and vigour.

Does AAKG (arginine) have a negative effect on an HPV infection as it does with herpes?

makes sense. i wouldnt risk it.

is your erection quality weak only with a condom? is it weak during masturbating? sex wo a condom?

zinc will probably help... veg diets are high in copper.

I think it's only weak with a condom. I lose an erection after pulling out and trying to switch positions and it is a struggle to get it back. I haven't had sex without a condom in a while, but am trying! Last I checked, it was fine during masturbation

[1newyorkguy]

Although, even during masturbation, I can't keep an erection as long as I'd like when I stop...so I guess I am not keeping a good quality one even then.

Edited by 1newyorkguy, 10 February 2010 - 07:56 AM.

[VespeneGas]

DUMP THE DIM. It's an androgen antagonist. It also lowers estradiol, which can hurt libido and sensitivity. The stuff is bad news.

Also, kegels and zinc.

[1newyorkguy]

DUMP THE DIM. It's an androgen antagonist. It also lowers estradiol, which can hurt libido and sensitivity. The stuff is bad news.

Also, kegels and zinc.

Damn..just ordered a big new bottle of DIM. Was taking it as part of an HPV regimen..which I've seen to have done a good job with.

For what it's worth..just read this:

4. DIM for Men -- Activating Testosterone

DIM helps to eliminate active estrogen from the male body by promoting its conversion into the "good" metabolites. These metabolites then free up testosterone by bumping it off the testosterone-binding proteins. The end result is a healthier balance of testosterone to estrogen and more free testosterone circulating in the body.

Edited by 1newyorkguy, 10 February 2010 - 09:49 AM.

[lynx]

DUMP THE DIM. It's an androgen antagonist. It also lowers estradiol, which can hurt libido and sensitivity. The stuff is bad news.

Also, kegels and zinc.

Damn..just ordered a big new bottle of DIM. Was taking it as part of an HPV regimen..which I've seen to have done a good job with.

For what it's worth..just read this:

4. DIM for Men -- Activating Testosterone

DIM helps to eliminate active estrogen from the male body by promoting its conversion into the "good" metabolites. These metabolites then free up testosterone by bumping it off the testosterone-binding proteins. The end result is a healthier balance of testosterone to estrogen and more free testosterone circulating in the body.

HPV regimen? Get them frozen off and if your immune system is healthy that should be the last of it.

[stephen_b]

Pycnogenol and l-arginine (PMID 12851125).

[malbecman]

Well, there is always Viagra or Cialis. If you are going to ingest a chemical to try and improve erections, those PDE5 inhibitors can't be beat (as opposed to some herbal extract).

But I agree with Duke, there may be an underlying medical or mental reason you should check out. 30 yr old guys usually shouldnt be having problems,...yet.....

[FunkOdyssey]

PDE5 inhibitors or pycnogenol + arginine. Or both. Definitely stop messing around with DIM, there is potential to screw yourself up hormonally there.

[Johann]

Kegels and viagra.

[1newyorkguy]

Pycnogenol and l-arginine (PMID 12851125).

Could I take lysine along with the arginine? Or would that counteract it?

[1newyorkguy]

Also should I get AAKG or l-arginine?

[ajnast4r]

I think it's only weak with a condom. I lose an erection after pulling out and trying to switch positions and it is a struggle to get it back. I haven't had sex without a condom in a while, but am trying! Last I checked, it was fine during masturbation

then this is clearly not a physiological problem... if you had a true physical problem with erections, sex without a condom and masturbation would be impeded as well.

you just hate condoms. we all hate condoms. there are plenty of extra thin ones, the sensation is significantly better with them... lube is a MUST with thin condoms to ensure they dont break.

[shaggy]

Also should I get AAKG or l-arginine?

You get a much longer sustained action from AAKG, that's my choice... Although I don't actually take it for the reason of the thread! lol

[VespeneGas]

DUMP THE DIM. It's an androgen antagonist. It also lowers estradiol, which can hurt libido and sensitivity. The stuff is bad news.

Also, kegels and zinc.

Damn..just ordered a big new bottle of DIM. Was taking it as part of an HPV regimen..which I've seen to have done a good job with.

For what it's worth..just read this:

4. DIM for Men -- Activating Testosterone

DIM helps to eliminate active estrogen from the male body by promoting its conversion into the "good" metabolites. These metabolites then free up testosterone by bumping it off the testosterone-binding proteins. The end result is a healthier balance of testosterone to estrogen and more free testosterone circulating in the body.

No no no no NO. Please, I bought this marketing literature back when I was a dumb kid lifting weights. "good" metabolites = weak metabolites. Estradiol is really important for health, including sexual health and libido, the immune system, bone mineral density, etc etc. DIM is not very well studied in people (at all), and my experience was a lasting decrease in libido coupled with an increase in irritability, fatigue, and frequency of infections, for a minimum of months after discontinuation, and I'm not alone on this one. Please don't make the same mistakes!

[1newyorkguy]

Had a solid session last night with a condom. Don't know if it was the kegel's or my first tongkat ali I took a couple hours earlier.

Is there any consensus on whether or not arginine effects HPV as it does HSV?

And if it does, could I take lysine along with the arginine? or would that counteract the erectile benefits?

I did read this online:
* Arginine This amino acid, now famous for its nitric oxide boosting properties, is also an effective growth hormone booster. Studies show that when healthy males take arginine in high doses (about 7-9 grams), their GH levels increase significantly. Arginine boosts GH levels by blunting a hormone that normally halts GH production.

* Lysine This amino acid is essential for building protein, but it also aids growth hormone production, especially when taken with arginine. Research confirms that when you take lysine with arginine, you can get a way with taking much less arginine--as little as one third of what you would normally have to take.

* Take it like this First thing in the morning, in the afternoon and before bed, take 1,500-3,000 milligrams of arginine along with the same dose of lysine without food.

--Jim Stoppani, PhD

[dazed1]

IMO, weak erections are mostly caused by poor blood flow. Poor blood flow is mostly caused by plaqued-up arteries.

Vegetarians who eat a lot of grains, rice, tofu, and starches, especially, I think are highly prone to poor blood flow issues.

 

I know this is old post, but its such BS its not even funny. Its actually completely opposite.

Edited by dazed1, 27 October 2018 - 07:05 AM.

[male_1978]

I had sexual problems for about 10 years(!) after taking finasteride ( for hair growth) which i didnt even take long. These problems were lack of libido, problems getting /holding an erection, heavy sweating.

 

This all was suddenly gone when i took Nicotinamide Riboside (Nad+ precursor). Als my blood pressure dropped about 10 pt. You might want to try that as well.

 

 

[DeltaWave]

Trazodone anyone?

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.../pubmed/7604472

 

CONCLUSIONS:

Despite the limitations of a nonrandomized, retrospective study, trazodone appears to benefit younger patients with erectile dysfunction with few known risk factors. A prospective, placebo-controlled trial is needed to confirm the observations of this pilot study.

 

 

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/12930437

 

 

CONCLUSION:

Trazodone may be helpful in men with ED, possibly more so at higher doses, and in men with psychogenic ED. Future high-quality trials should compare trazodone with placebo and other therapies in men with depression and psychogenic ED.

 

Trazodone in Sexual Medicine: Underused and Overdosed?

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/30342856

 

Edited by DeltaWave, 27 October 2018 - 04:14 PM.