28 replies to this topic

[mikeinnaples]

Any thoughts on supplements to improve circulation and extremity temps / cold sensitivity? It would be for a 33 year old female that is thin and fit (i.e. issues arent caused by weight).

Thanks

[Matt]

i always have cold hands and feet... its part of being 'thin' and doing CR for me. Doesn't always mean poor circulation, I don't think :S I have pinkish nails, seems fine haha. Maybe your friend could eat more?

Edited by Matt, 05 March 2010 - 06:07 PM.

[tunt01]

in contrast to matt's pink nails, if your female friend has white bands or white/glossy like looking nails (aka as Terry's Nails), then she does have a circulatory issue. you can search for things that benefit peripheral vascular disease (or whatever her underlying condition is that leads to circulatory dysfunction).

without a specific understanding of the cause (ie. diabetes?), it's going to be the usual cast of characters like exercise, appropriate diet to stimulate vascular health (berries, sufficient protein, etc.).

[Dorho]

i always have cold hands and feet... its part of being 'thin' and doing CR for me. Doesn't always mean poor circulation, I don't think :S I have pinkish nails, seems fine haha. Maybe your friend could eat more?

I think cold hands and feet are always a sign of poor circulation. It means that your body loses heat too fast to afford circulating lots of blood in extremities, thus saving the warmth within important parts of body like brains.

Poor circulation may lead to blood clotting, and the clots can be extremely dangerous if they detach and find their way to brains, causing possibly fatal stroke. Low room temperature that causes poor circulation in extremities and strokes through the pathway I described is a major killer in both developing and developed countries.

[Dorho]

Any thoughts on supplements to improve circulation and extremity temps / cold sensitivity? It would be for a 33 year old female that is thin and fit (i.e. issues arent caused by weight).

Thanks

Ginkgo is said to improve circulation. It also thins blood.

An even more natural approach would be daily 45+ minute cardio.

[NDM]

Ginkgo did work for me, as an unexpected benefit (i took it for its putative nootropic effects)

edit: and cordyceps works - it warms the whole body, to the point of sweating

Edited by NDM, 05 March 2010 - 07:18 PM.

[shaggy]

I can't offer much advice on supplements to improve circulation besides maybe ACAi, which has shown some effect in rats.

I can advise on one to avoid, for me Acetyl L carnitine definitely impairs circulation to my hands and feet... Most certainly has vaso-constricting properties.

[Matt]

i always have cold hands and feet... its part of being 'thin' and doing CR for me. Doesn't always mean poor circulation, I don't think :S I have pinkish nails, seems fine haha. Maybe your friend could eat more?

I think cold hands and feet are always a sign of poor circulation. It means that your body loses heat too fast to afford circulating lots of blood in extremities, thus saving the warmth within important parts of body like brains.

Poor circulation may lead to blood clotting, and the clots can be extremely dangerous if they detach and find their way to brains, causing possibly fatal stroke. Low room temperature that causes poor circulation in extremities and strokes through the pathway I described is a major killer in both developing and developed countries.

Well my body temperature is 35.8 degree C... and no I'm not at risk of blood clots, I am very healthy haha, my platelet count is around 140 and the normal range is (140 - 400). I don't have poor circulation. ufff

An even more natural approach would be daily 45+ minute cardio

yup!

Edited by Matt, 05 March 2010 - 08:51 PM.

[nameless]

Perhaps something like pycnogenol would help, but I suggest your friend get checked out by a doctor.

[stephen_b]

I think of low iodine when I hear cold hands. I have to wonder if many in the west aren't starving their thyroids. From this article:

Estimates of the average daily Japanese iodine consumption vary from 5,280 mcg to 13,800 mcg

Edited by stephen_b, 05 March 2010 - 11:53 PM.

[wayside]

I think of low iodine when I hear cold hands.

I 2nd the iodine recommendation. My doc put me on an iodine supp, which has 12.5 mg of iodine, and it made a noticeable difference in my hands.

Search for Iodoral or an equivalent.

[mikeinnaples]

She does 30-60 minutes of cardio 3-4 times week..... so I dont think its exercise.

Thanks for some of the supp advice. The iodine is especially interesting since her diet is normaly low in it acording to Chron

[rwac]

Thanks for some of the supp advice. The iodine is especially interesting since her diet is normaly low in it acording to Chron

Wait, I don't see iodine in Cron-o-meter. Where can I find it ?

[OneScrewLoose]

I have the same problem, Ginkgo increased the temperature of my hands by 4 degrees C and my whole body by 1/2 degree C. I really recommend it.

[Logan]

Cayenne pepper

[waldemar]

I never have cold hands and feet when I take Picamilon. Maybe this would also work with Niacin.

[12 String]

I have the same problem, Ginkgo increased the temperature of my hands by 4 degrees C and my whole body by 1/2 degree C. I really recommend it.

Ditto on this, maybe. I've got Reynauds syndrome and most of my fingers turn white when it dips into the 50's. Cycling thru this Winter has not been easy. Based on what you reported a while back about Ginkgo I tried it and it helps a little. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I think the problem is timing. I'm taking 120mg of extract an hour or so before riding. Is Ginkgo something you have to build up in your system or can you take it only when needed?

[zm3thod]

Cayenne pepper

Cayenne helped me with cold feet, and now I don't need to take it anymore. The only tolerable version I took was a half dose of Nature's Way Capsicool

"CapsiCool provides the benefits of Cayenne (40,000 Heat Units) without causing burning or stomach discomfort. The CapsiCool System uses Ginger and Glucomannan to gently control the heat of Cayenne."

Proprietary Blend 780 mg
Cayenne Pepper (fruit)
Ginger (root)
Glucomannan (root)

[viikki]

Approximate amount of ginger?

GlucoMannan, isn't that just soluble fiber with nothing else special? Not much information at examine dot com.

 

Does this make sense: "The CapsiCool System uses Ginger and Glucomannan to gently control the heat of Cayenne".?

Edited by viikki, 18 October 2016 - 11:09 AM.

[shp5]

cordyceps sinensis. I use the one by Drs. Best on iherb, if you can find a CS-4 Liquid fermentation product, it would probably be even better.

 

If she's willing to try and shell out some money, ask around for a TCM practitioner, TCM herbs often work well with this kind of problem.

 

 

Edited by shp5, 26 October 2016 - 01:38 PM.

[fntms]

Cordyceps also is an anticoagulant, quite effective at that in my experience... to be used sparingly in my case.

[tunt01]

I would add a PDE-5 inhibitor like icariin (horny goat weed) or cialis/tadalafil to the list of things for people to consider.

[hamishm00]

I would go back to fundamentals before I started hitting the herbs.

 

Cold hands and feet can be a sign of a deficiency in the following:

 

Zinc (deficiency is common)

Magnesium (60-80% of the population is deficient)

Potassium (almost everyone is below the RDA)

Iron (deficiency common in women)

 

Hypothyroidism can also result in cold hands and feet.

 

 

Edited by hamishm00, 02 November 2016 - 04:20 AM.

[Junk Master]

I'll second the recommendation for low dose Cialis.  Quite affordable if purchased in powder form.  It takes a very small amount (you will have to experiment because of differences in potency of powder sources.

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[Skyguy2005]

Ginkgo Biloba, Ginkgo Biloba, Ginkgo Biloba, with a bit of salad and a dusting of Ginkgo Biloba. 

[RWhigham]

Curcumin is an uncoupler

https://www.karger.c...FullText/354516 "Dietary Curcumin Ameliorates Aging-Related Cerebrovascular Dysfunction through the AMPK/Uncoupling Protein 2 Pathway"

 

An uncoupler can warm you up

 

Explanation:

(1) The Krebs cycle is mostly inside the inner membrane of mitochondria (the matrix) and supplies electrons to the electron transport chains (ECT's) embedded in the inside of the inner membrane. The ECT's pump protons from the matrix across the inner membrane to the space between the inner and outer membrane. This creates a steep voltage gradient across the inner membrane. Pores in the inner membrane allow protons to fall through the voltage gradient onto mechanical ATP machines, which rotate to make ADP into ATP. The electrons exit the far end of the ECT and are taken up by O2 and quickly converted into CO2. The CO2 is picked up by red blood cells and hydrolyzed (combined with water) to make bicarbonate. Bicarbonate is broken down by O2 in the lungs to release CO2.

 

(2) The ECT's cannot be allowed to run unregulated. If the voltage gradient gets too high, the ECT leaks damaging electrons.

 

(3)  When the voltage gradient gets high, reverse transport of electrons through complex I at the start of the ECT produces ROS which signals the parent cell to stop feeding the Krebs cycle and create temporary insulin resistance. Sufficient antioxidants to prevent this feedback could cause a great deal of trouble.

 

(4) ROS used for signaling does cause some damage. At one time, it was hypothesized to be the main cause of aging, which popularized antioxidants.

 

(5) Uncouplers cause protons to fall through the inner membrane without making ATP.  This only makes heat. This reduces the voltage gradient and prevents the signaling ROS. Brown fat in young humans is brown because it has so many mitochondria. It also has lots of uncouplers used for generating heat. (How many times have you wanted to tell kids to put on a coat when it was cold).

 

(6) The uncoupler in curcumin reduces ROS and "Ameliorates Aging-Related Cerebrovascular Dysfunction".

 

Curcumin:

It is poorly absorbed, only fat soluble, and mostly it's only metabolites that show up in the blood.

 

David Sinclair did not find curcumin extended lifespan https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/23432089

 

However, the curcumin metabolite tetrahydrocurcumin (THC) does extend lifespan in mice.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/23325575 "Curcumin and aging." [Behind a pay wall, but LEF has quotes]

 

"In male mice supplemented with THC beginning at the age of 13 months, mean lifespan was increased by an average of 84 days in comparison with unsupplemented mice."

 http://www.lifeexten...ifespan/page-01

 

The Absorb Health liposomal curcumin may have the best absorption.

 https://www.amazon.c...YYZJEKNXA8&th=1

 

Or you could try making your own http://www.qualityliposomalc.com/  These instructions are for vit-C which is water soluble - requires modification for a fat-soluble substance.

 

Taking black pepper with curcumin is said to increase absorption, but it mainly (or only) prevents the liver's detox chemistry from destroying it all. Grapefruit juice may do the same as it too inhibits liver detox chemistry.

 

Edited by RWhigham, 23 November 2016 - 07:43 AM.

[jadamgo]

Of all things, piracetam! It's actually used clinically to treat Raynaud's Phenomenon, but can also sometimes work in cases of ordinary, non-medical "poor circulation". 

[Tom Andre F. (ex shinobi)]

I got a warm up effect using my rosmarinic acid extract. Since I added it, I dont have cold hand anymore.