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Beta-Blockers for Performance Anxiety?


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#1 digdug

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Posted 05 July 2004 - 04:59 PM


I was told about the use of beta-blockers for performance anxiety. After doing research I see that Inderal (Propanolol) is the most commonly used. Here is my question in a few parts:

1. Can Metoprolol be used instead? If so, what is the appropriate dosage to use? I ask because Metoprolol and Propanolol are dosed differently for their "on-label" uses.

2. Will beta-blockers be so anxiolytic that the normal, productive adrenaline response in exam situations will be completely shutdown or interefere with my cognitive ability, to my detriment?

3. If #2 is an inevitability, is there a more appropriate medication to deal with my problem? I've considered benzodiazapenes, but I fear they will make my "out of it".


I'm glad to see that Oxiracaetam exerts a tranquilizing effect on me - apparantly this is often seen in those who have pre-existing anxiety, upon the start of -racetam treatment.

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Posted 05 July 2004 - 05:11 PM

Well it really depends on what kind of performance you want to give. Inderal will reduce your accuracy, and make you feel relaxed; I would not advise anybody to take inderal prior to an academic event; however, if you need to chill out for some social event where it is very important to feel like you can sit still or "feel comfortable in your own skin," then it will help you do just that.

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Posted 05 July 2004 - 05:15 PM

Look into these:

Phenibut
http://www.bulknutri...gredients_id=64

L-Theanine
http://www.bulknutri...roducts_id=1328

Links are to the Bulk Nutrition site because he has more detailed info. Smi2le.biz has the best prices on these products, however.

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Best of luck.

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Posted 05 July 2004 - 05:36 PM

Some personal observations on Propanolol: I found it amazing that the acute anxiety response (imagine driving and suddenly you notice a person appear in front of you) was dramatically reduced without a concomitant drop in reflexes or mental acuity. Also noticed a general basal pulse rate and blood pressure drop, became more sensitive to low temperature and found it difficult to get the same sweat out of a workout. I would be careful in using it for exams without getting used to it first (say 1 - 2 weeks) since you may find an unusual blase attitude that may not be in agreement with your preparation style. Great for giving talks if you find it intimidating. Also great for poker. :)

BTW benzodiazapenes will definitely slow you mentally. Do not use them during exams.

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Posted 05 July 2004 - 06:36 PM

Look into these:

Phenibut
http://www.bulknutri...gredients_id=64

L-Theanine
http://www.bulknutri...roducts_id=1328

Links are to the Bulk Nutrition site because he has more detailed info.  Smi2le.biz has the best prices on these products, however.

... that refrigerator is clean enough LOL.  Get back to the books.

Best of luck.


Yes, I just tried phenibut myself, and I must admit it definately has an anti anxiety effect; and I found a 500 mg dose to be quite effective. L theanine, I am not sure how much I notice this one...

#6 digdug

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Posted 05 July 2004 - 07:21 PM

Already ordered phenibut from Sm2le, and it should be on its way. How is the effect on mental acuity?

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Posted 05 July 2004 - 08:54 PM

Already ordered phenibut from Sm2le, and it should be on its way. How is the effect on mental acuity?


It definately does NOT make you sharper. I only use it to help me get to sleep when I have insomnia, or when I want to get 8 hours of sleep. Usually I cannot get more than 6 hours of sleep, so every once in a while it is nice to get the full 8. Oh, and what else did you order from smi2le? Did you get some aniracetam, picamillon, RALA, and ALCAR? I think those are some of the most effective nootropics as far as your memory and vigilence is concerned.
Take care,

Adam

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Posted 05 July 2004 - 09:34 PM

I have Picamillon and Aniracatem on the way. I alreay have RALA and ALCAR from Beyond-a-Century. What are the optimal dosages for these? I'm going to do 500mg a day of ALCAR and am clueless about the R-ALA dosage. Both powder burn the fvck out of my throat, though.

See, I've been taking Oxiracetam and already notice the the sedative effect is making it a bit more difficult to study. I'm having to drink coffee to get that perfect calm/focused sweetspot. My fear is that once I add Aniracaetam and Picamillon, I'll become narcoleptic!

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Posted 05 July 2004 - 10:34 PM

I have Picamillon and Aniracatem on the way. I alreay have RALA and ALCAR from Beyond-a-Century. What are the optimal dosages for these? I'm going to do 500mg a day of ALCAR and am clueless about the R-ALA dosage. Both powder burn the fvck out of my throat, though.

See, I've been taking Oxiracetam and already notice the the sedative effect is making it a bit more difficult to study. I'm having to drink coffee to get that perfect calm/focused sweetspot. My fear is that once I add Aniracaetam and Picamillon, I'll become narcoleptic!


You need to go buy a scale and empty capsules. The effective nootropic dose of ALCAR is over 2 grams a day and over 600 milligrams a day for RALA.

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