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[quazi]

Hello!

I am a law student and becouse I would like to improve my memory I decided to try some smart drugs.
I ordered Vinpocetine, Piracetam and Get smart (vinpocetine 10 mg, Huperzine A 100 mcg, picamilon 50 mg, pyritinol 175 mg, DMAE 75 mg, CDP Choline 10 mg, Rhodiola rosea 3% 75 mg)

I have no expirience about smart drugs so I would like to get some of your opinion about what could be the best choice and the dose.

I am healthy I don`t know is this forum for healthy peope or for some who have memory problems?
I am using Zoloft (I was depresed) but I think I will stop taking soon.
I don`t know if smart drugs can be taken if you use Zoloft?

I find this article of James South M.A. I have find this text but didn´t understand very well.

Thus the Piracetam-nootropics would NOT be prone to the (often serious effects of drugs which directly amplify or inhibit neurotransmitter c e.g. MAO inhibitors, Prozac-style "selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, tricyclic antidepressants, amphetamines, benzodiazepines, etc.

So please give me some advice!

Thank you!
[mellow]

[nootropi]

Hello!
I ordered Vinpocetine, Piracetam and Get smart (vinpocetine 10 mg, Huperzine A 100 mcg, picamilon 50 mg, pyritinol 175 mg, DMAE 75 mg, CDP Choline 10 mg, Rhodiola rosea 3% 75 mg)
[mellow]

CANCEL YOUR ORDER NOW! You just wasted a bunch of money on overpriced crap. Where did you buy these items for? Call them and cancel right away; we will help you once you do this.

[quazi]

I am afraid it is too late becouse I have already ordered on website with my Visa cart so I don`t think they will give me money back. I ordered yesterday on this web site

www.smart-drugs.net/olympia-brain.html

Give me some advice please!

[nootropi]

I am afraid it is too late becouse I have already ordered on website with my Visa cart so I don`t think they will give me money back. I ordered yesterday on this web site

www.smart-drugs.net/olympia-brain.html

Give me some advice please!

I am sure they have not shipped your order yet. At least ask them to cancel it! You are getting REALLY RIPPED OFF.

[quazi]

Yes of course you can delete double post! Sorry!

I already sent them e-mail and ask them to cansle the order. Now I am waiting the anser.

So what is your advice for me? I have 45 kg body weight.

[nootropi]

Yes of course you can delete double post! Sorry!

I already sent them e-mail and ask them to cansle the order. Now I am waiting the anser.

So what is your advice for me? I have 45 kg body weight.

Hello Quazi,

Tell them you need them to cancel the order and you will be very angry if you cannot.

Okay, here is another issue: please give me until next week to answer your specific questions; I have a final exam in a short term semester course this Friday.

What I will need to know is how much cash you have for a three month and/or six month supply.

[quazi]

O.k. if I understand you have exam so you will anser my question after friday is that right.

And I don`t understand question about cash????

[nootropi]

O.k. if I understand you have exam so you will anser my question after friday is that right.

And I don`t understand question about cash????

How much can you spend, do you want to spend, etc. There is no exact scaling for cognitive enhancement; but in general the more cash you have to spend, the more likely your regimen will work for you. In general, nootropics are very safe; effective is questionable. So the more you take, the more likely you will have a favorable response; in short.

Gotta go.

Why don't you read this thread?

[quazi]

The price is not so importened. The most importened for me is to be EFECTIVE and SAFE. But I don`t exectly know what are the prices (from - to?)
I don`t know a lot about safest too, becouse I talked to my doctor here and she didn`t tell me a lot about it. The most specialists and farmaceuts I talked said that they don`t advice me to use this things? Don`t know why, probobly becouse they still think that Piracetam and other drugs should take just illnes people.
On our websites there is nothing I could read about this drugs. I find out from others websites that the healthy people is using them too.
So I am here and hope you will help me to chose the right thing.

If you don`t have time now it is no problem I will wait after friday. I have a exam too in next monday.

Yesterday I start to using Vinpocetine 10 mg 3 times a day like I red on website so I think it won`t be any wrong (becouse of Zoloft).
I will read what you sent me and wait for your instructions.

Aniway where from do you know so much about this things?

[nootropi]

T
he price is not so importened. The most importened for me is to be EFECTIVE and SAFE. But I don`t exectly know what are the prices (from - to?)
I don`t know a lot about safest too, becouse I talked to my doctor here and she didn`t tell me a lot about it. The most specialists and farmaceuts I talked said that they don`t advice me to use this things? Don`t know why, probobly becouse they still think that Piracetam and other drugs should take just illnes people.
On our websites there is nothing I could read about this drugs. I find out from others websites that the healthy people is using them too.
So I am here and hope you will help me to chose the right thing.

If you don`t have time now it is no problem I will wait after friday. I have a exam too in next monday.

Yesterday I start to using Vinpocetine 10 mg 3 times a day like I red on website so I think it won`t be any wrong (becouse of Zoloft).
I will read what you sent me and wait for your instructions.

Aniway where from do you know so much about this things?

Quazi,

No offense, but I suggest you get some basic grammar lessons before you start any nootropic regimen, okay? BTW, how old are you?

[quazi]

I am 32 years old, 45 kg body weight.
I must tell that my pass 3 years was very stressed. First my sister died (cancer in her had), than my dother got cronical rheuma-artritis (she was 18 months, now she is 4 years old), I had devorced.

Now it is much better but I think the coniquences of stress are still there.
So I thing that is the reason that I still hardly concentrate and I have a problem with memory somethimes.

Like I already said I am taking Zoloft about 2 years and Diane 35. I have a problem with migrane than I usualy take Aspirin Migrane.
I have somethimes obsessivess thoughts.

[nootropi]

I am 32 years old, 45 kg body weight.
I must tell that my pass 3 years was very stressed. First my sister died (cancer in her had), than my dother got cronical rheuma-artritis (she was 18 months, now she is 4 years old), I had devorced.

Now it is much better but I think the coniquences of stress are still there.
So I thing that is the reason that I still hardly concentrate and I have a problem with memory somethimes.

Like I already said I am taking Zoloft about 2 years and Diane 35. I have a problem with migrane than I usualy take Aspirin Migrane.
I have somethimes obsessivess thoughts.

Quazi,

I am sorry; but if you are having obsessive thoughts I do not think you should start taking nootropics; they may make your condition worse.
I don't want to see you suffer as the result of my recommedations.

Take multivitamins, 2 grams of EPA/DHA, 800 mg + RALA, and ALCAR 2400 mg, and L-Carnosine 1000 mg daily, and you should be okay.

Take care.

[quazi]

THANK YOU NOOTROPI, BUT ARE YOU SHORE???
IF I UNDERSAND WELL THIS GIRL HAVE A OBSESSIVE PROBLEMS TOO:

(there is a copy)
PEACEOFMIND:
I'm looking to begin a relatively minimal and cost effective program. I have anxiety, (which has really stunted my cognitive functioning) and fatigue issues and a mild case of OCD (obsessivess not complusiveness). For those reasons I'm currently on MAO inhibitors and have also just been prescribed Xanax for anxiety. Basically I'm looking to improve memory, cognitive function, ability to sit still and focus and to induce an element of calmness and relaxation.


AND YOU ADVICED HER:

ALCAR 800 mg 3X a day (empty stomach, at waking, before lunch, late afternoon)
R-ALA or K-RALA: 200-250 mg 3X a day (take as much as 900 mg/day; my urine smells a lot like sulphur, but hey; I don't mind; at least my brain and body are exposed to minimal oxidative stress!!! ) (empty stomach, at waking, before lunch, late afternoon

Aniracetam 750 mg 2X per day; once with breakfast once with lunch
Piracetam 1600 mg 2X per day; once with breakfast once with lunch
Idebenone 50mg 2X per day; once with breakfast once with lunch
Pyrinitol 250 mg 2X per day; once with breakfast once with lunch (guage your response first at 250 mg before raising the dose, but generally very safe)
Phosphadityl Serine 250 mg once per day with breakfast
Picamilon 100 mg 2X per day;once with breakfast once with lunch
Sulbutiamine 200 mg 2X per day; once with breakfast once with lunch
Vinpocetine 10% 100 mg 2X per day; once with breakfast once with lunch

Bedtime: 500 mg L-Theanine and 500 mg phenibut (at that dose can be taken daily)
Bedtime: 500 mg Centrophenoxine

MAYBE I DIDN`T UNDERSTEND WELL PLEASE TELL ME.

I MUST TELL THAT I HAVE MILD OBSESSIVE AND NO MEDICATIONS BECOUSE OF THAT.
IF I WOULD TRY WITH NOOTROPICS AND GET WORSE, I COULD STILL STOP TAKING THEM WHAT DO YOU THINK?
WILL THE SITUATION AFTER I WOULD STOP TAKING NOOTROPICS STAY WORSE THAN BEFORE I EVER START TAKING THEM? IF THE ANSER IS NO I WOULD STILL LIKE TO TRY, IF THE ANSER IS YES I WOULDN`T LIKE TO RISK.

I WOULD REALY LIKE TO TRY, BUT OF COURSE I WILL DO WHAT YOU SAY.

[ejdavis1]

Quasi,

Is English your first language?

[quazi]

No it isn`t my first language, that is the reason I don`t understand all of the words.
I am from Slovenija.
And sorry my English!

[ejdavis1]

I have heard that English is one of the more difficult languages to learn. I can understand most of what you write. You are to be congratulated on being able to ask such questions in a difficult language.

[quazi]

I forgot to write that I am taking ACTIVE-H. It is a strong anti-oxidatn, so I don`t know if it is emergency to take some others anti-oxidants too.

[nootropi]

Okay, so, if you, as you say, are taking zoloft, which is an SSRI, that should not interact negatively as far as I know with any of the nootropics that I have listed below. If costs are not too important, here is what I would suggest:

1. 4.5 mg Hydergine FAS daily with your breakfast.
2. 750 mg Aniracetam twice a day, once with breakfast, once with lunch (for a total of 1500 mg per day).
3. 1 gram (1,000 mg) piracetam twice a day, once with breakfast, once with lunch.
4. Alpha GPC 500 mg with your breakfast, 250 mg with your lunch.
5. ALCAR 800 mg 3 times a day, preferably on an empty stomach
6. K-R-ALA 500 mg 3 times a day, preferably on an empty stomach, with ALCAR. (this will make your urine smell sulphuric, so be prepared)
7. One drop (1) of liquid deprenyl with breakfast daily.
8. L-Carnosine 500 mg twice a day preferably on an empty stomach, with ALCAR, and KRALA.
9. Pyritinol 400 mg with breakfast, 200 mg with lunch.
10. Phosphadityl Serine 200 mg with breakfast, 100 mg with lunch daily.

Okay, those are some basic nootropics, most of which you can pick up from smi2le for very very cheap. The others you can order from Biogenesis Laboratories.

There also are several more I would advise, but those are some basics that should help you do better in school.

MOST IMPORTANTLY: you need to stick to this regimen for at least 3-6 months to be able to see any tangible results. Do not, I repeat, do not, expect results overnight. The human brain is a vastly complex organ; one which takes a lot of time to adjust to radical chemical changes. Also it is very important to challenge yourself intellecually. If you sit around and watch soap operas all day don't come running to me complaining if you do not see any results!

Take care, and good luck.

Edited by nootropi, 23 January 2005 - 03:14 AM.

[scottl]

Nootropi,

Why "K-R-ALA" and not just R-ALA?

[scottl]

Nootropi,

Why "K-R-ALA" and not just R-ALA?

Thanks.

Scott

[nootropi]

Nootropi,

Why "K-R-ALA" and not just R-ALA?

Thanks.

Scott

Hi Scott,

Why K-RALA? Here AOR support answers your question: click here

[quazi]

Thank you very much Nootropi!

Should I start taking everything at once or with a few key substances for a couple of weeks?
I would add to your list Inositol and l-theanine I think this can`t be a problem am I right?
And I am taking anti-baby pills (Diane 35) - is this a problem?
I have read that taking ALCAR during the day may increase testosterone production. Is this true. I wouldn`t like that, becouse I am taking Diane 35 for reason I have to much testosteron.

Edited by quazi, 07 September 2004 - 11:59 AM.

[nootropi]

Thank you very much Nootropi!

Should I start taking everything at once or  with a few key substances for a couple of weeks?
I would add to your list Inositol and l-theanine I think this can`t be a problem am I right?
And I am taking anti-baby pills (Diane 35) - is this a problem?
I have read that taking ALCAR during the day may increase testosterone production. Is this true. I wouldn`t like that, becouse I am taking Diane 35 for reason I have  to much testosteron.

I answered your question by PM, did you get it?

[quazi]

Yes Nootropi I did!

Thank you!

[vamlov]

Where is the best/cheappest Web site, to order internationally(to Europe) Huperzine A?

Thanks

[quazi]

Where is the best/cheappest Web site, to order internationally(to Europe) Huperzine A?

Thanks

I would like to know too, I would like to buy all nootropics there so I wouldn`t pay a custom. Where are you coming from Vamlov?

[nootropi]

Where is the best/cheappest Web site, to order internationally(to Europe) Huperzine A?

Thanks

I would like to know too, I would like to buy all nootropics there so I wouldn`t pay a custom. Where are you coming from Vamlov?

www.smi2le.biz has pretty much everything you need. As far as huperzine a goes, you'll just have to look around a bit.

[lemon]

Huperzine/Vinpocetine is $8.75/50 grams at B.A.C. (Beyond-A-Century).

[vamlov]

Beyond a Century, has a great price, but only for Americans, NO INTERNATIONAL ORDERS. Less for them, will buy in another place.
Will buy in www.life-enhancement.com, 50 mcg, 120 caps $19.97 (with 2$ discount=17.97),waiting for shipping costs