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[cristina]

Hello everybody

I'm spanish, 24 years old. I am a law student. As you may understand I have to study a lot of information, and have a long term memory and also good verbal capacities.
For about 2 years, my doctor prescribed me vinpocetine, deanol and some vitamins.But I wanted more, and he didnt prescribed, said "It is too strong for you, just for Alzheimer patients", f.. you doctor , I would like to know what did you take in medical school , hypocrit

So I started searching on web, I was amazed of how much information is denied from us

I have already tried cdp-choline and huperzine pills, and had good results

Recently I tried Aniracetam in powder, and although I read a lot of wonderfull things and people feedback, I was disapointed with it. It should be great, but after I take it with the other medication, I feel kind of "lost mind", I think a lot of things, but nothing and particular, can't focus, and it is bad for my memory.Even verbally, I think a lot of things, but cant express them well.

What do you think about aniracetam? I took for a week with cdp-choline,huperzine,vinpocetine, in moreless 750 mg x2(like I read somewhere it should be) (but it is difficult to measure, I drop in water about 1 spoon)
Dose problem? Somewhere I read people react differently to aniracetam?But it should be great and do alot of things, why not to me?

Thanks,

Cristina Sousa, Madrid

[nootropi]

Firstly, YOU NEED A SCALE. It is completely pointless and, in fact, can be counter cognitive enhancing to be ingesting "approximate" doses of any pharmacutical grade nootropic. Probably the most essential element of ingesting nootropics is steady dosing. I am very confident that there has been much more dramatic variation in your dosing due to your approximating than you expect -- and the brain is a (very) very delicate organ which DOES NOT LIKE dramatic variation to be the constant.

Second, if you are looking for particularly effective nootropics, aniracetam is among the top candidates; however, you cannot expect immediate results from any drug. In fact (and I have said this before), when you are subjecting your brain to a new set of chemicals, you should, in fact, expect, degradation of your cognitive state temporarily until your brain is able to reach a new state of equilibrium. I would say at least two weeks must pass before any initial assessment of efficacy can be properly estimated.

Third, how is your membrane fluidity? Are you taking sufficient omega 3 supplements?

Four: I suggest you order 4.5 mg FAS Hydergine if you can afford it and take it daily.

That is all for now

Take care.

[cristina]

Thank you very much cosmos and nootropi, a latina kiss for you

I will try to buy a scale (balance). We have herbanary stores that sell omega-3 and stuff, will try.

Hydergine, funny, I think we have that at pharmacy with prescription, my father once was taking it. But isnt it equal to vinpocetine, isnt it a "cerebral vasodilator"? I am taking vinpocetine?
Take both?

Kiss,
Cristina

[nootropi]

Thank you very much cosmos and nootropi, a latina kiss for you 

I will try to buy a scale (balance). We have herbanary stores that sell omega-3 and stuff, will try.

Hydergine, funny, I think we have that at pharmacy with prescription, my father once was taking it. But isnt it equal to vinpocetine, isnt it a "cerebral vasodilator"? I am taking vinpocetine?
Take both?

Kiss,
Cristina

A good, cheap scale with 0.1 gram (100 milligram) accuracy and 120 gram capacity is the 120z.

[nootropi]

Hydergine is far more than a cerebral vasodialator; it increases the number of dendrites in your brain, improves your mitochondria's "metabolism," and slows the deposit of aging pigment in the brain to name a few effects...

Dendrites are the links between cells in different brain lobes. They are the means for transferring information from one lobe to another. To help describe what dendrites do I'll use the example of the Attention lobe in a Ron norn.

The Attention lobe has forty cell locations. One for each category of object available in Creatures. The cell with the highest output value in this lobe will indicate the object that the norn is currently looking at (ie. paying attention to). The values for each cell are obtained from other lobes. The two lobes used as inputs to this lobe are the Stim Source lobe and the Noun lobe. Each of these two lobes also have forty cell locations. When a cell fires in one of these input lobes the result is carried down dendrites to the equivalent cell in the Attention lobe. The value of each cells from the two input lobes are summed and the result stored in the corresponding cell of the attention lobe. For example, if Cell 2 of Stim Source fires at value 50, Cell 3 of Stim Source fires at value 20, Cell 3 of Noun fires at value 40 then the result in the Attention lobe will be Cell 2 firing at value 50 and Cell 3 firing at value 50. How do the values of the cells get transferred to the Attention lobe? By traveling along dendrites. Dendrites are the electrical wiring between lobes.

[meddocpt]

Hydergine is a good drug for a long standard use. Would advice it to everybody, to prevent or delay neuron loss. It is a mild vasodilator.

For a fast and noticeable effect on your subjective cerebral performance, would advice you to stick with your initial stack, with vinpocetine (taking the too, make cause you hypotension, unless you reduce doses).
As for Aniracetam, people react differently, and also with different doses.After two weeks, if you dont like the effect in your performance, leave it.

The key, is each one of us, find its self/particular/specific association of nootropics

[racetam]

I have the same problem when taking 2 grams of piracetam with 400mg choline bitrate/inositol, feel a lil paranoia, lack of thought and creativity. I think its because some people are sensitive to the drug and also need to adjust. So im just going to use 200mg choline with 300mg of piracetam daily. Gosh at 2 grams i feel kinda high or something i can just look at the wall for hours i bet and not think anything. I use to use ginkgo smart which is cheap and a very basic combination. But it worked great for me, could study for hours but I had to quit since everytime i took it I felt alot of pressure in my head most likely caused by the increased blood flow.

[lemon]

When I first started taking hydergine with piracetam, my brain felt tingly and I felt a little high. Not in a bad way though, as I felt calm and collected. Anyone else get this "tingly" sensation?

[racetam]

Woo from what I know, the tingly sensastion comes befor a siezure, lack of blood or oxygen flow to the brain, or and bleeding in the brain. I had that problem befor for a few days after drinking a couple alcoholic drinks at a club when i was stupid enough to consume alcohol. So i went to hospital and found out I had a hemmorhage/bleeding in the brain. they think it was caused by someone maybe posioning my drink.

[lemon]

I felt stimulated. I didn't feel like I was having a seizure.

[haim78]

Yes Cristina isn't only you, many people have some sort of rejection to the -racetam family. Myself too, when I started taking piracetam... uff, can't explain how bad I felt, it was a diffuse feeling I can't describe; It was the opposite of what I expected from this drug

Nevertheless, as nootropi says, I've noticed the effect can change a lot depending on your omega-3 levels; after taking fish oils during two months I feel better when I take piracetam, not only myself but other friends too (taking fish oils for four weeks).

You also can take Pirisudanol instead of piracetam, it isn't the same molecule (((HYDROXY-3 HYDROXYMETHYL-4 METHYL-2 PYRIDYL-5)METHOXYCARBONYL)- 2.ACETATE DE DIMETHYLAMINO-2 ETHYLE DIMALEATE, somebody on Internet says it's piridoxine+dmae succinate, don't sure at all ) but the effects are similar and don't have this -racetam problem in some people, in Spain you can buy it pretty cheap under the name of "Mentis".

Hydergina is quite effective even at short-term, at least I've heard so. It's extracted from a toxic parasit plant called "Cornezuelo de Centeno" (I don't know how is called in english); seem some homeopathic effect at very low doses (4,5mg); you can also find it in Spain: Hydergine Novartis, and you don't need medical prescription.

You can also benefit from taking 400mg daily of Sulbutiamine (Arcalion 200), I like very much its effects, give it a try.

I'm also Spanish; student of medicine.Well, greetings from Malaga, 'Me alegro de leerte Cristina, suerte con los tochos de derecho, mi mejor amigo también lo estudia aquí en Málaga, me dan susto esos libros vuestros...'