Posted 05 August 2013 - 03:59 AM
Sorry, I know there has been a lot of questions asked and sorry that I am slow to respond. I just am really busy so don't get to get back to this thread as often as I would like.
Let me clear the air about a few things that I keep seeing pop up.
Alcohol - This is only added to the water, after mixing, at the 4 to 7% range, to help stave off bacterial build up while the peptide is being stored in your fridge waiting to be used.
In the beginning there was light and the light was good, oops, wrong story. In the beginning (before I was involved with the actual synthesis and manufacturing of peptides and enzymes, and wanted to share the information I had found out about AEDG, I tried adding it directly to straight Vodka thinking that it would help in the absorption of the peptide. I shared that information but shortly there after changed that information stating that adding the peptide directly to alcohol will cause it to clump together. That is why you must mix with water first, then add the alcohol.
Once again, the amount of alcohol is based on the original idea of people only taking as little (potentially) as 1mg or even less per day. Given that, the peptide needed to be able to survive for 50 to 60 days. In fact, you could have no alcohol at all in the mix and it would be fine if you were going to use all the peptide within 10 to 14 day and kept it in the fridge. We actually have had reports of people who are taking, hold your breath, I know, this is a lot of doe ray me, but, 50mg in one shot. Just mix some water in the vial, swirl, and down the hatch. "But Hugo, that is not sublinqual"!!!!! We will get into that in a minute.
So, to summarize the alcohol issue. Water must come first, amount of alcohol at 4 to 7% was based on longevity of the peptide in mixed conditions for up to 60 days. Alcohol is not necessary to take the peptide, you could just put the raw powder directly under your tongue if you wanted.
Absorbtion - AEDG is only a 4 amino acid chain and can absorb into the body very fast, very easy. There is no reason for anyone to have to consider to do injection unless they want to drastically reduce the amount they take each time to save money but then you are going to face other issues such as, well, having to inject (sub-q), keeping syringes around the house, mixing properly, avoiding infection and everything else that goes along with that. I do sub-q injections myself for other things but even though I am used to it, I still prefer to stay away from it if I can. The other major issue with injections are/is, making sure that it is extremely pure, clean and prepared in such a way as to allow injection-able use.
Remember, even with Sub-q, you are only speeding it up a bit. You are not putting it directly into the blood stream, the only things you are doing is getting past the epidermis and directly into the fat layer where it then is slowly absorbed into the blood stream that way. Typically larger chain proteins are done this way because they cannot pass through the epidermis so all your are doing is bringing them past that point so that they can get to the fat layer and begin the absorption process. Although the AEDG is very small and can pass through the skin very easy, you would still have some loss if you just tried to rub it on your skin so it would take more then it would if you did it sub-q and far less again if you did intravenous.
Stability - Despite it being a small chain, it is very stable for a peptide and it does not break easy. Longer chains, again, are the ones that are very fragile and you have to worry about shaking, adding liquid, ect.... AEDG can even survive the stomach for a period of time. The digestive track will eventually destroy it but a lot will absorb right through the stomach wall. It is not as if it hits your stomach and is instantly destroyed. Of course, the sooner you can get it through the skin, the better, so, sub-q in a small amount is better but do not worry about some going down your throat, it is still going to get absorbed.
Although it is more stable, structurally wise, there are other things that come into play when you are making such a small peptide. It is affected, far more easily and drastically by outside sources such as moisture. Yes, it is extremely hygroscopic!!! It can even absorb the moister inside a sealed vial and cause it to become like a clump of glue or look crystalline. Does this mean that it is no longer good? No, it just means that it has absorbed water, but, after absorbing water it then becomes subject to bacterial degradation. We have developed ways to avoid this, keep this from happening, but I am not going to go into that for obvious reasons.
Price and Selling - I used to sell to members on this board, basically at cost because I did not get compensation for my time. I did this because I believe in AEDG and wanted as many people as possible to get a chance to try it out, not to mention, help me to confirm my believe that it worked from getting back other results besides my own.
I subsequently became a partner in the lab that was producing it for me but my responsibilities did not end up being for the sale of the AEDG and now, being in the company, I can no longer promote the AEDG directly to the public. I do still provide it to some people who were originally buying it from me if they ask, on a personal basis (I probably should not really mention that but it may come out anyhow) but I do not take solicitation for it. My company does sell it, in bulk and the price can get quite low but at serious quantities only, not generally suitable for individuals.
I see some people bashing some companies, selling it retail, because of their pricing. I should not really have anything to say about this, but, as a person who has been involved in manufacturing, wholesaling and retail for over 35 years, I can tell you that this is an extremely simple minded view. You cannot just look at the wholesale price of something and then equate that to your retail price, especially when you are dealing with something like this. Epitalon is a not approved as a life extension substance by any governmental agency any where in the world, much less so by our Dear and wonderful USFDA. For someone to be putting it together in such a way that individuals can buy it and take it is assuming a TON of risk and that is not even going into the issues of having to take the raw substance, preparing in a way that can be used by individuals, packaging, transportation, storage, legal, overhead and on and on. I am not trying to defend anyone's price, and I am not talking about any one company in particular, but, what you need to remember is, what you may think is a major rip off, in the end, can translate to a very small margin, especially in a gray market. Buy or don't buy, that is your choice and in fact, if this was something like a naturally occurring substance that could be derived from a plant or something, and had approval by the FDA, it would probably be as cheap as, well, as cheap as Melatonin for sure. But it is not. Free market is a great thing. Anyone who feels that they can do a better job, or create a better price, can go out there, buy a kilo or two, create a usable product, market it, take the risk and set your price. Just remember the key words, "Take the Risk".
OK, I need to get back to work, take care everyone.