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[Reincarnation]

Hi everyone,

I cannot orgasm during intercourse. With some effort, I can have an orgasm manually, but not with my partner. It just feels like nothing is there, as if she is too "loose." (I do get strong erections though.) With my hand, I can increase the "grip" and (with effort) have an orgasm.

I feel much better when I take tyrosine, especially when combined with NADH--though my body gets acclimated to the NADH fairly quickly. My orgasms become more intense because of the increases in dopamine, but it is not EASIER to orgasm (so no orgasm during intercourse; only manually). Tyrosine and NADH make me more extroverted. (I'm an introvert.)

The doctors are clueless.

I think I also have high levels of prolactin, and usually stay up late due to insomnia. My body temperature is usually on the high side, and my nerves and reflexes are twitchy and too easily triggered (symptoms of mild serotonin syndrome). It's difficult to sit still, though vigorous exercise (running) and sunshine clear this up about 80%.

Any ideas/tips? Thank you so much in advance!

PS: Are there any other safe ways to lower prolactin besides Vitex (chaste berry)?

[peakplasma]

Is the issue delayed ejaculation? Or ejaculation without orgasm?

Delayed ejaculation, the polar opposite of premature ejaculation, is usually cause by a psychological unwillingness to "let go" or "loose control"

Have you tried selegiline (l-deprenyl)? Erotic hypnosis is another option that works well for many people!

[Junk Master]

Interesting.

Have you had your testosterone levels tested?

Have you tried eating 4 egg yolks per day?

Supplementing with Lecithin?

[What'sAllThisThen]

I know you can manually, but is there any difficulty or a high effort needed to achieve orgasm manually?  Because if not, it doesn't sound like there's anything wrong, just not getting the amount of pressure you need.  Did you have this problem with past partners?

Unless it's been awhile since my last orgasm I can always achieve orgasm faster manually than through sex, because I know how and can put all the pressure I need into it.  I can definitely achieve 2nd orgasm easier manually than through sex.  I'm not saying supplements couldn't achieve something for you, I just don't think there's a problem. By problem I mean it doesn't sound like it's a deficiency, balance or neurotransmitter issue, because not enjoying sex is a bit of a problem.

Increasing dopamine or histamine levels may help, but seems like a roundabout solution. You describe it as if she is too loose, so it seems more of a pressure/friction issue. I've asked women to "squeeze me" when I'm in a state of difficulty (going on too long, 2nd or 3rd session, etc.) and that helps.  And I don't know how you'd go about it and whether you're in a trusting, long term relationship, but talking about her doing kegels might be of help.  It'll help tighten her up to increase the pressure, and will help her achieve stronger orgasms as well as put a new trick up her pleasuring sleeve. No pun intended, I just mean she can use her new found strength and control as a pleasure technique for her and you.

[khemix]

1) Are you on any antidepressants or are you taking 5-HTP or other sedating medications? Those are notorious for desensitizing that area.

2) Are you nervous? High norepinephrine can draw blood out from periphary organs and make erections more difficult.  Some stimulants can also cause problems.

3) If its a looseness issue find yourself an Asian girlfriend

[Reincarnation]

peakplasma, on 15 April 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

Is the issue delayed ejaculation? Or ejaculation without orgasm?

Delayed ejaculation, the polar opposite of premature ejaculation, is usually cause by a psychological unwillingness to "let go" or "loose control"

Have you tried selegiline (l-deprenyl)? Erotic hypnosis is another option that works well for many people!

The issue is delayed ejaculation. I have no psychological issues. I am also not stressed whatsoever.

It's as if my nerves in my penis need to be sensitized more. I suspect this problem to be purely physical.

Lol. I've tried erotic hypnosis. (I was desperate!) Did absolutely nothing.

Selegiline may very well help (dopamine), but I think I am going to try mucuna first. See if I can do it without drugs. I'll keep you guys posted.

I think prolactin is also a player here, but don't have any tests to back this up.

[Reincarnation]

Junk Master, on 15 April 2012 - 04:07 AM, said:

Interesting.

Have you had your testosterone levels tested?

Have you tried eating 4 egg yolks per day?

Supplementing with Lecithin?

I eat eggs daily (3 or 4)! Also take nettle root. Testosterone is fine, I suspect--though I've done no testing.

I tried lecithin. That stuff tastes awful, lol.

[Reincarnation]

What, on 15 April 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

I know you can manually, but is there any difficulty or a high effort needed to achieve orgasm manually?  Because if not, it doesn't sound like there's anything wrong, just not getting the amount of pressure you need.  Did you have this problem with past partners?

Unless it's been awhile since my last orgasm I can always achieve orgasm faster manually than through sex, because I know how and can put all the pressure I need into it.  I can definitely achieve 2nd orgasm easier manually than through sex.  I'm not saying supplements couldn't achieve something for you, I just don't think there's a problem. By problem I mean it doesn't sound like it's a deficiency, balance or neurotransmitter issue, because not enjoying sex is a bit of a problem.

Increasing dopamine or histamine levels may help, but seems like a roundabout solution. You describe it as if she is too loose, so it seems more of a pressure/friction issue. I've asked women to "squeeze me" when I'm in a state of difficulty (going on too long, 2nd or 3rd session, etc.) and that helps.  And I don't know how you'd go about it and whether you're in a trusting, long term relationship, but talking about her doing kegels might be of help.  It'll help tighten her up to increase the pressure, and will help her achieve stronger orgasms as well as put a new trick up her pleasuring sleeve. No pun intended, I just mean she can use her new found strength and control as a pleasure technique for her and you.

Yes, there is definitely some difficulty at times (manually).

Yes, I've had this problem with all partners. = (

I enjoy sex with my partner, but there is not enough friction to come even close. (Twice, I've had her tense up so much that I ALMOST came close! Wow! I was at a 7.5, but needed a 9!)

I tried not masturbating for six months without success.

I told her to do Kegels and she did. Again, no success.

I'm in a trusting, long-term relationship (2.5 years).

I suspect that if I lower serotonin and prolactin (and boost dopamine), my penis will be sensitive enough for intercourse. Thoughts?

[Reincarnation]

khemix, on 15 April 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

1) Are you on any antidepressants or are you taking 5-HTP or other sedating medications? Those are notorious for desensitizing that area.

2) Are you nervous? High norepinephrine can draw blood out from periphary organs and make erections more difficult.  Some stimulants can also cause problems.

3) If its a looseness issue find yourself an Asian girlfriend

I tend to run a little high on serotonin and low on dopamine. (I like to stay up late and sleep for sometimes 10 hours if I can get away with it.) No antidepressants, though depression runs in my maternal family.

Not nervous at all. Erections are very good.

She's Chinese, lol.

[Reincarnation]

Thank you for all the responses! I'll keep you guys posted.

[platypus]

Reincarnation, on 15 April 2012 - 11:40 PM, said:

It's as if my nerves in my penis need to be sensitized more. I suspect this problem to be purely physical.

You have to stop masturbating with a "death grip" - this is a rather common problem and can cause problems in intercourse. Train your body to accept different kinds of stimulation and you should be fine.

[strider]

do you watch porn?

[nupi]

I don't think you are right in seeing Mucuna as a safer alternative (natural it may be) to Selegiline (which sadly so far I have not managed to convince my shrink to prescribe me). Mucuna is in essence L-Dopa which is fairly nasty stuff to use over a pro-longed time.

[Reincarnation]

nupi, on 16 April 2012 - 08:06 AM, said:

I don't think you are right in seeing Mucuna as a safer alternative (natural it may be) to Selegiline (which sadly so far I have not managed to convince my shrink to prescribe me). Mucuna is in essence L-Dopa which is fairly nasty stuff to use over a pro-longed time.

You are probably right, but I just want to see what it does in the short-term. When it comes with a warning label, you know it works!

[Reincarnation]

strider, on 16 April 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

do you watch porn?

Not excessively.

[platypus]

Reincarnation, on 16 April 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

strider, on 16 April 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

do you watch porn?

Not excessively.

You should watch porn regularly and masturbate without using the "death grip" (Dan Savage's term) until light stimulation does the trick. You need to retrain your nervous system.

[hippocampus]

maybe it's zinc deficiency. zinc (wtih B6) can lower prolactin.

[kevinseven11]

Nettle root reduces DHT does it not? Id stay away from that. Your partner isn't the problem at all. Masturbation probably is the only reason your having problems.

[maxwatt]

kevinseven11, on 16 April 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

Nettle root reduces DHT does it not? Id stay away from that. Your partner isn't the problem at all. Masturbation probably is the only reason your having problems.

Not necessarily, there can be a physiological reasons, though these seem to have been explored. Masurbation per se is less a problem than is one's technique.

Quoting wikepedia, which sometimes has good information:

Quote

If the disorder is not so severe and a man can ejaculate through some form of stimulation, he should apply to a sex therapist specializing in this area. This is very important in cases when a man can ejaculate through any form of stimulation but intercourse. Usually treatment for this disorder includes both partners.
Therapy usually involves homework assignments and exercises intended to help a man get used to having orgasms through insertional intercourse, either vaginal, anal or oral, i.e. through the way he is not accustomed to. Commonly the couple is advised to go through three stages.At the first stage a man masturbates in the presence of his partner. Sometimes this is not an easy matter as a man might be used to having orgasms alone. After a man learns to ejaculate in the presence of his partner, the couple gets to another stage where the man's hand is replaced with the hand of his partner. Step by step a man learns to ejaculate closer and closer to the desired orifice. In the final stage the receptive partner inserts the insertive partner's penis into the partner's vagina, anus or mouth as soon as the ejaculation is felt to be imminent. Thus a man gradually learns to ejaculate inside the desired orifice.

Some medical plans will pay for sex therapy, if a doctor prescribes it.

A technique that is reported to have worked in some cases:  the man atop the woman, in the missionary position, puts his legs outside the woman's, while she places her legs together, knees straight, between his, maintaining penetration.  Care must be taken to avoid the man slipping out.  The woman can apply even more than usual pressure, and the man can push his body horizontally toward the woman's head, usually by pushing with his toes.  This has the effect of applying pressure to the roof of her vaginal orifice, as well as on the length of his shaft.  By tightening her thigh muscles, a woman can often obtain unusually intense and multiple orgasms, further stimulating her partner.  This is perhaps as close as one can come to the sensation of the "death grip" through intercourse, though it wouldn't surprise me if there are other creative approaches.

Edited by maxwatt, 17 April 2012 - 12:08 AM.

[1thoughtMaze1]

Reincarnation, on 14 April 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

Hi everyone,

I cannot orgasm during intercourse. With some effort, I can have an orgasm manually, but not with my partner. It just feels like nothing is there, as if she is too "loose." (I do get strong erections though.) With my hand, I can increase the "grip" and (with effort) have an orgasm.

I feel much better when I take tyrosine, especially when combined with NADH--though my body gets acclimated to the NADH fairly quickly. My orgasms become more intense because of the increases in dopamine, but it is not EASIER to orgasm (so no orgasm during intercourse; only manually). Tyrosine and NADH make me more extroverted. (I'm an introvert.)

The doctors are clueless.

I think I also have high levels of prolactin, and usually stay up late due to insomnia. My body temperature is usually on the high side, and my nerves and reflexes are twitchy and too easily triggered (symptoms of mild serotonin syndrome). It's difficult to sit still, though vigorous exercise (running) and sunshine clear this up about 80%.

Any ideas/tips? Thank you so much in advance!

PS: Are there any other safe ways to lower prolactin besides Vitex (chaste berry)?

What this have to do with brain health? Keep that shit to yourself yo!

[semi-retarded-individual]

Post a picture of her and we can tell you if this is a problem with you or with her

[peakplasma]

1thoughtMaze1, on 17 April 2012 - 02:13 AM, said:

Reincarnation, on 14 April 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

Hi everyone,

I cannot orgasm during intercourse. With some effort, I can have an orgasm manually, but not with my partner. It just feels like nothing is there, as if she is too "loose." (I do get strong erections though.) With my hand, I can increase the "grip" and (with effort) have an orgasm.

I feel much better when I take tyrosine, especially when combined with NADH--though my body gets acclimated to the NADH fairly quickly. My orgasms become more intense because of the increases in dopamine, but it is not EASIER to orgasm (so no orgasm during intercourse; only manually). Tyrosine and NADH make me more extroverted. (I'm an introvert.)

The doctors are clueless.

I think I also have high levels of prolactin, and usually stay up late due to insomnia. My body temperature is usually on the high side, and my nerves and reflexes are twitchy and too easily triggered (symptoms of mild serotonin syndrome). It's difficult to sit still, though vigorous exercise (running) and sunshine clear this up about 80%.

Any ideas/tips? Thank you so much in advance!

PS: Are there any other safe ways to lower prolactin besides Vitex (chaste berry)?

What this have to do with brain health? Keep that shit to yourself yo!

The brain is the most important sexual organ, jackass.

[Reincarnation]

platypus, on 16 April 2012 - 05:04 PM, said:

Reincarnation, on 16 April 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

strider, on 16 April 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

do you watch porn?

Not excessively.

You should watch porn regularly and masturbate without using the "death grip" (Dan Savage's term) until light stimulation does the trick. You need to retrain your nervous system.

Thank you, Platypus. I will do this, though masturbating will take 30 minutes now.

[Reincarnation]

hippocampus, on 16 April 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

maybe it's zinc deficiency. zinc (wtih B6) can lower prolactin.

I think it may be related to pyroluria as well (just guessing here). Are high levels of B6 dangerous? Is the damage from neuropathy permanent or kind of like beta alanine (just a tingle)?

[Reincarnation]

kevinseven11, on 16 April 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

Nettle root reduces DHT does it not? Id stay away from that. Your partner isn't the problem at all. Masturbation probably is the only reason your having problems.

Is DHT in this case beneficial? I've had this problem long before taking nettle. Thanks for replying.

[Reincarnation]

maxwatt, on 16 April 2012 - 11:55 PM, said:

kevinseven11, on 16 April 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

Nettle root reduces DHT does it not? Id stay away from that. Your partner isn't the problem at all. Masturbation probably is the only reason your having problems.

Not necessarily, there can be a physiological reasons, though these seem to have been explored. Masurbation per se is less a problem than is one's technique.

Quoting wikepedia, which sometimes has good information:

Quote

If the disorder is not so severe and a man can ejaculate through some form of stimulation, he should apply to a sex therapist specializing in this area. This is very important in cases when a man can ejaculate through any form of stimulation but intercourse. Usually treatment for this disorder includes both partners.
Therapy usually involves homework assignments and exercises intended to help a man get used to having orgasms through insertional intercourse, either vaginal, anal or oral, i.e. through the way he is not accustomed to. Commonly the couple is advised to go through three stages.At the first stage a man masturbates in the presence of his partner. Sometimes this is not an easy matter as a man might be used to having orgasms alone. After a man learns to ejaculate in the presence of his partner, the couple gets to another stage where the man's hand is replaced with the hand of his partner. Step by step a man learns to ejaculate closer and closer to the desired orifice. In the final stage the receptive partner inserts the insertive partner's penis into the partner's vagina, anus or mouth as soon as the ejaculation is felt to be imminent. Thus a man gradually learns to ejaculate inside the desired orifice.

Some medical plans will pay for sex therapy, if a doctor prescribes it.

A technique that is reported to have worked in some cases:  the man atop the woman, in the missionary position, puts his legs outside the woman's, while she places her legs together, knees straight, between his, maintaining penetration.  Care must be taken to avoid the man slipping out.  The woman can apply even more than usual pressure, and the man can push his body horizontally toward the woman's head, usually by pushing with his toes.  This has the effect of applying pressure to the roof of her vaginal orifice, as well as on the length of his shaft.  By tightening her thigh muscles, a woman can often obtain unusually intense and multiple orgasms, further stimulating her partner.  This is perhaps as close as one can come to the sensation of the "death grip" through intercourse, though it wouldn't surprise me if there are other creative approaches.

Ah, I've tried that already. Great suggestion though.

The doctors were totally clueless (urologist and internist). I should go to a shrink instead.

[Reincarnation]

1thoughtMaze1, on 17 April 2012 - 02:13 AM, said:

Reincarnation, on 14 April 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

Hi everyone,

I cannot orgasm during intercourse. With some effort, I can have an orgasm manually, but not with my partner. It just feels like nothing is there, as if she is too "loose." (I do get strong erections though.) With my hand, I can increase the "grip" and (with effort) have an orgasm.

I feel much better when I take tyrosine, especially when combined with NADH--though my body gets acclimated to the NADH fairly quickly. My orgasms become more intense because of the increases in dopamine, but it is not EASIER to orgasm (so no orgasm during intercourse; only manually). Tyrosine and NADH make me more extroverted. (I'm an introvert.)

The doctors are clueless.

I think I also have high levels of prolactin, and usually stay up late due to insomnia. My body temperature is usually on the high side, and my nerves and reflexes are twitchy and too easily triggered (symptoms of mild serotonin syndrome). It's difficult to sit still, though vigorous exercise (running) and sunshine clear this up about 80%.

Any ideas/tips? Thank you so much in advance!

PS: Are there any other safe ways to lower prolactin besides Vitex (chaste berry)?

What this have to do with brain health? Keep that shit to yourself yo!

I apologize if I offended you.

[Reincarnation]

semi-retarded-individual, on 17 April 2012 - 02:23 AM, said:

Post a picture of her and we can tell you if this is a problem with you or with her

Alright, fine.

http://www.9kracing....-denise-milani/

[maxwatt]

Reincarnation, on 17 April 2012 - 04:42 AM, said:

semi-retarded-individual, on 17 April 2012 - 02:23 AM, said:

Post a picture of her and we can tell you if this is a problem with you or with her

Alright, fine.

http://www.9kracing....-denise-milani/

I thought you said she was Asian?

[semi-retarded-individual]

LOL. I love asian girls !