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[18074U]

Greetings all!
I've been an extremely tired person for a long time now and no doctors / psychiatrics has beeen able to help me. I am therefore trying to boost my energy level, focus, alertness and clarity as much as I can on my own. I recently came across nootropics when desperately searching for drugs that could help me. I don't want to bore you with my whole story but if you want to know briefly about me I'm a 27 year old male from Sweden who works at the computer. I eat very healthy and exercise regularly and I'm normally happy in general (no depressions). I suffer from EDS (Excessive Daytime Sleepiness) / hypersomnia and often find it extremely hard to focus during the day (I'm a night owl and can usually work much better after night time with greater alertness).

I didn't think there existed any "supplements" with very little side effects (known so far) that could affect your daily life that much (after reading and watching objectively created reviews by individuals like you and me). After doing days of research, I decided to try following nootropics and would like to know if I missed something or if I added something in vain. I also have a few questions that I couldn't really find answers to myself.

Before breakfast:
- Phenylalanine 500mg
- Vitamin C 500mg
- B6 50mg

I read that Phenylalanine or Tyrosine exists naturally in high protein diets like eggs, milk, cottage cheese, chicken, etc which I eat a lot. So will extra Phenylalanine be useless in my situation?#1
Maybe I'm better off just taking the Vitamins then correct?#2 Or do I still need the intake on empty stomach to produce the extra dopamine boost?#3

Racetam & Choline
- Pramiracetam / Oxiracetam
- Alpha-GPC

I read a lot of great things about the racetams that could benefit me. Apparently Pramiracetam and Oxiracetam are both more potent than the original Paracetam and faster working, so it sounds like a no brainer if the price isn't too big of a difference. According to most sources, Racetams should be combined with Choline to boost the effect and to avoid headaches, but which one is the better one here?#4

Anti-aging
- Deprenyl / Selegiline / Centrophenoxine / Lucidril

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a life crise (yet), I'm typically after the other benefits of these pills like increased energy, better sense of well being, increased alertness and improved libido.
I heard most about Deprenyl and Selegiline but today I stumbled upon Centrophenoxine as well. Are they all contributing with the same effects here?#5 Can they be combined or should I go with one of them?#6 Is it better to use liquid or tablets?#7

I decided to try out the racetam and choline first and then deprenyl without the other two so I possibly could distinguish the effects. At last I will try them all together over a longer period.
So, how do you guys like my stack?#8 Should I remove or add something?#9

I marked all questions with a bracket (#) so you easier can answer them in a chronological order if you like .
I look forward to any guidance and hope that I can give back to the community one day.
Take care for now guys and gals!

Regards

1807

[jonnyD]

Have you ever tried a good Rhodiola Rosea product (like "arctic root")?


Rhodiola Rosea + Piracetam solved all my problems with tiredness and getting out of bed in the morning.

[18074U]

Have you ever tried a good Rhodiola Rosea product (like "arctic root")?


Rhodiola Rosea + Piracetam solved all my problems with tiredness and getting out of bed in the morning.

Thanks for the response!
I've tried the root but not combined with anything else. I firstly need to get my hands on that racetam, its hard here in Europe :(.

[FDA Approved]

I would advise you to choose Piracetam from the racetam family. I've only tried Piracetam and Aniracetam (bought both initially and tried them together and separately) and I continued on Piracetam until now (currently I am on Aniracetam actually again until I buy more Piracetam) because Piracetam seems to be significantly more effective and easier to take (water-solutable vs fat-solutable). Also there are a lot more studies done on Piracetam and its potential short and long-term effects than there are for the other racetams, so Piracetam is the safer bet.

[Godot]

If you're not already, try 5000IU of vitamin D3 per day. This greatly helped my energy level and morale when living in a northern climate.

[18074U]

If you're not already, try 5000IU of vitamin D3 per day. This greatly helped my energy level and morale when living in a northern climate.

I tried this already but thanks . Right now I flee to a sunny country every autum/winter, it helps a lot with my energy, but its still not maximum. I feel that I have potential to do so much more if I wasn't so mentally fatigued.

Edited by 18074U, 01 August 2012 - 08:30 PM.

[jonnyD]

Have you ever tried a good Rhodiola Rosea product (like "arctic root")?


Rhodiola Rosea + Piracetam solved all my problems with tiredness and getting out of bed in the morning.

Thanks for the response!
I've tried the root but not combined with anything else. I firstly need to get my hands on that racetam, its hard here in Europe :(.

I had no problems getting *Racetams in Europe (im from germany).
Check nootropics.eu or intellimeds.co.uk .

[malden]

Or smartpowders.com, im from holland and a big fan of them. )mainly because the low prices and fast schipping en low schipping rates.

[medievil]

Look into shizandra, animal here had succes with that.

Ive got it lying around, didnt get around to trying that one yet.

[18074U]

I had no problems getting *Racetams in Europe (im from germany).
Check nootropics.eu or intellimeds.co.uk .

Thanks, that last site had some interesting products, have you tried out the Noopept?

Or smartpowders.com, im from holland and a big fan of them. )mainly because the low prices and fast schipping en low schipping rates.

Aren't they based in the US? I'm afraid of getting my items stuck in the customs on the way in, Sweden is very harsch on prescription medication :(.

[jonnyD]

Thanks, that last site had some interesting products, have you tried out the Noopept?

Yes. I think it is Noopept but i have no Noopept from another source so i cannot compare it.
It is definatly active! (at 5mg)

Im still testing it but so far i got better results with the normal *racetams.

[malden]

I had no problems getting *Racetams in Europe (im from germany).
Check nootropics.eu or intellimeds.co.uk .

Thanks, that last site had some interesting products, have you tried out the Noopept?

Or smartpowders.com, im from holland and a big fan of them. )mainly because the low prices and fast schipping en low schipping rates.

Aren't they based in the US? I'm afraid of getting my items stuck in the customs on the way in, Sweden is very harsch on prescription medication :(.

Yes they are based in the us, but racetams are legal if im correct. Never had any problem with it

[18074U]

Yes they are based in the us, but racetams are legal if im correct. Never had any problem with it

They are unfortunately illegal to import to my country, so its a big chance the customs take it. But ordering from inside of Europe seems much safer according to reports on the web .

Thanks for the info!