philantropist, on 09 September 2012 - 06:20 AM, said:
philantropist, on 09 September 2012 - 05:01 AM, said:
cool stuff :P what about oxi and ani are they the same owing to the fact that all fall under the racetam family? or do they have characteristics unique to themselves with regard to cardiovascular function
oh and yes before I forget, how should I take oxi and ani. I suppose not together, but when (on an empty stomach? in the morning? during revision? before lectures?)? And must they be taken daily, or as and when? Should a choline source be taken together with oxi and ani everytime?
Also, I read somewhere on this site that oxi is best for revision and ani best for grasping concepts in lectures. Is this right?
Sorry for the bombardment of questions! lol
I would think that oxi and ani have similar blood effects to pi, but I don't know, and have never read any research on it.
You will just have to experiment with them to find out the best administration method. I normally take all three of them with fish oil and vitamins, and then I eat breakfast. I think that all three are absorbed like this, but I am sure that some people would disagree. Ani is fat-soluble, so I think it is probably best to take it with a meal. Pi and oxi are water-soluble, so I think it is okay just to take them with a lot of water. Here is what I am planning on starting next week
On wake, take pi and oxi with 250ml water
30 minutes later take Vitamins, fish oil, and ani with breakfast
The best result I had so far was from taking pi and oxi in the morning, and then, wanting to try the ani again, taking the ani and following it with 2 Reese's. The effect was quite pronounced, to the point where I noticed it while I had had dismissed ani in the past because it had not worked for me, but I wouldn't dismiss the fact that it could just be in my mind that this one was better than the rest. I feel like taking everything combined is not as effective, but I didn't think of that when I was setting out my pills, and I had two weeks of 4 white, mostly identical pills in each day's slot in my box, and I am too lazy go inspect them and try and figure out which looks like ani.
As far as choline goes, I rarely take it. I take it sometimes when I am having trouble thinking. The feeling is mostly a dry feeling in my brain, like it is difficult to move things. I don't know how universally felt this is, or if it is maybe negative placebo, but the choline relieves it nonetheless. Depending on how young you are and your personal chemistry, your dosage will vary I would recommend that you play around with it. Start off not taking any and see if adverse effects occur. Take more until the adverse effects are gone or when they are the most gone you can get them to, but don't overdose on it (I wouldn't go over 1g, but that was just an arbitrary limit I defined for myself. I don't know the real overdose). There will probably be a sweet spot up until which you will feel tired, and after which you will start to feel anxious or depressed.
I have never heard of ani vs oxi for grasping concepts vs revision. I think the effects of each are largely different for each user. It is an experimentation thing again. Racetams are also supposedly synergistic, so I would just take all three if you have the money. One is probably not going to reduce the effects of another.