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[Beth]

For years we'be been told that sunscreen is good, it protects our skin from burning, prevents melanoma, ageing etc. But then there's the flip side of it causing skin cancer, the sunscreens having toxic chemicals like oxybenzone, which are hormone disruptors. There's also the problem where it's blocking the production of vitamin D. I used to be really pro sunscreen, I'd wear it when ever I was in the sun, then I started wearing it all the time with my moisturizer. But now I'm completely confused on whether its good or bad.

I watched a BBC documentary recently on ageing at it said we should wear more sunscreen but then I watched Sunscreen: Shocking Research Exposed. So now I just don't know where I stand with sunscreen and if I should continue using it. Paleolithic humans never wore sunscreen and were out in the sun more than us, surely our skin is used to sun exposure.

[avelez]

I think it might have to do with the degree of sun protection it is as well. They say SPF 20 is recommended all year round, maybe higher for the hotter months. Different types of sunscreen have different chemicals as well. I wouldn't veto putting on sunscreen altogether, but I would just go for something of a lower degree if you're worried.

[JBForrester]

This is really interesting. Thank you for sharing the link.

Perhaps simply wearing a hat and protective shirts as opposed to sunscreen is better - I mean, hey, this is what the beautiful southern belles did back in the 1800s!

At the same time, is she referring to generic sunscreens you find at drugstores, or all sunscreens, i.e. non-nano and "natural"?

[niner]

For years we'be been told that sunscreen is good, it protects our skin from burning, prevents melanoma, ageing etc. But then there's the flip side of it causing skin cancer, the sunscreens having toxic chemicals like oxybenzone, which are hormone disruptors. There's also the problem where it's blocking the production of vitamin D. I used to be really pro sunscreen, I'd wear it when ever I was in the sun, then I started wearing it all the time with my moisturizer. But now I'm completely confused on whether its good or bad.

I watched a BBC documentary recently on ageing at it said we should wear more sunscreen but then I watched Sunscreen: Shocking Research Exposed. So now I just don't know where I stand with sunscreen and if I should continue using it. Paleolithic humans never wore sunscreen and were out in the sun more than us, surely our skin is used to sun exposure.

The lady on Shocking Research Exposed is a quack. Wear a high quality sunscreen every day. Paleolithic humans had pigmentation that matched the sun exposure typical of where they lived. Now that we travel all over the planet, we have to either wear sunscreen or supplement vitamin D to compensate for the mismatch. If your ancestors lived near the equator, then you aren't going to need much sunscreen, but judging from your picture, you should use it. Paleolithic people got wrinkles and tended to die young.

[sapentia]

The lady on Shocking Research Exposed is a quack. Wear a high quality sunscreen every day. Paleolithic humans had pigmentation that matched the sun exposure typical of where they lived. Now that we travel all over the planet, we have to either wear sunscreen or supplement vitamin D to compensate for the mismatch.

Niner, do you still wear a sunscreen during the months wear UV levels are at a minimum (November through February)? Given your latitude you would have very minimal UV exposure unless you spent several hours outside during the peak of day.

Personally, I don't wear a sunscreen during the aforementioned months but rely on the my supplementation of lutein, zeaxanthin, astaxanthin, lycopene, phycocyanin, etc. to protect from any unwanted UV damage. During the summer months I actually consider these supplements + sun avoidance as my primary strategy with sunscreen being my backup.

I also haven't fully decided about C60-OO effect on my sun protection/sensitivity at this point. I peeled for the first time in probably 20 years after a 5 hour boatride down an Amazonian river without sunscreen last month. That equatorial sun is a beast!

[niner]

I get a little sloppy about it in the deep winter months, particularly on cloudy days. Still, UVA penetrates clouds and whatnot better than UVB, and probably is less affected by the angle of the sun as well. It's pretty easy to just hit the high-damage spots like cheekbones and the back of my hands.

Were you taking C60 when you had the 5 hour Amazonian fry-fest? That's a lot of photons... While I can see that C60 is suppressing sunburn for a lot of people, I don't know if it's providing protection from photoaging or not.

[platypus]

I use sunscreen but then I also sunbathe in small stints (15 min per side at noon) without any sunscreen (except on my face and hands) to get a full-body vitamin-D dose. I like the energy-boost this gives me.

[sapentia]

Were you taking C60 when you had the 5 hour Amazonian fry-fest? That's a lot of photons... While I can see that C60 is suppressing sunburn for a lot of people, I don't know if it's providing protection from photoaging or not.

I hadn't taken it in 7 days at that point, but I had taken ~4mg each day prior to stopping it during that trip. I'm no peeling expert but it took me nearly two weeks before I peeled. Not sure if that is normal, but I seem to remember that peeling usually occurs much quicker.

[niner]

Were you taking C60 when you had the 5 hour Amazonian fry-fest? That's a lot of photons... While I can see that C60 is suppressing sunburn for a lot of people, I don't know if it's providing protection from photoaging or not.

I hadn't taken it in 7 days at that point, but I had taken ~4mg each day prior to stopping it during that trip. I'm no peeling expert but it took me nearly two weeks before I peeled. Not sure if that is normal, but I seem to remember that peeling usually occurs much quicker.

Seven days out from a daily dose of 4mg, you'll still have a lot of c60 on board. I'm now three weeks out from ~2.5mg/day for a week, and I haven't yet seen a return of the symptoms of postural hypotension that I had until I started c60.

Two weeks sounds like a weirdly long time for peeling to occur. Back when I used to get sunburned, my recollection was that peeling would start pretty quickly, like a couple days. That was a long time ago, though.

[StanG]

My understanding is the best 2 sunscreen agents in the U.S. are Titanium Dioxide and Zinc Oxide. I use Vichy with Mexoryl as a couple of years ago EWG rated it the best. You can't get it in the U.S. but you can in Canada and European countries. I get the 300ml size with 50SPF but the 30 gives you just about the same protection.

[Matt]

Sun damaged skin doesn't look nice. Wear sunscreen.

[SuicidalTraveler]

Sun damaged skin doesn't look nice. Wear sunscreen.

 

Do you apply it every second hour?

[yucca06]

I never, never use sunscreen (for at least 20 years)

Sunbaths totally naked ed when possible (up to 6 months/year), just keep it from 30mn to 1h max (never burned)

 

... I still look about 10 years younger than my age (50), and no age spots at all. 

If you're scared about sun, take idebenone + astaxhantin ed, and unless you're a pale, red-haired young woman, you won't burn. But you'll get all the benefits from Sun.

 

(eat also lots of fats, do physical exercise ed, and sleep enough, that's it)

 

Edited by yucca06, 09 November 2016 - 04:56 PM.

[kurdishfella]

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