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#1501 Julia36

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 10:38 AM

QUANTUM ARCHAEOLOGY.

How Science is trying to resurrect the dead.


Micro Map of the past being created.

  • Quantum computers and new maths to calculate detailed histories and memories of everyone dead.
  • Face and body reconstructions a million years old already achieved: mind reconstructions coming.
  • 106 billion people to be resurrected within 40 years.

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QuantumArchaeology


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Quantum Archaeology posits resurrection of everyone on earth will be available near the advent of post-human machine intelligence using emerging statistical probability and number crunching techniques to achieve massively accurate retrodiction. Robotic resurrection would then follow as science and technology converge.

 

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 11:01 AM

AI: Coming Soon

 

 

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"In an article he wrote for Time Magazine, Kurzweil says that even though most of the people in the field think we're still several decades away from creating a human level intelligence, he puts the date at 2029 — less than 15 years away.

 
 
When A.I. can self-improve, there may be a hard take-off lasting only moments.
I've thought (and posted & warned ) that A.I. is imminent since 1999.
 
 
One view is that a universe is created when full A.I. is achieved - there is a big bang -  reorganising everything it touches..
 
 
 

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 11:14 AM

Genomics soars as computing facilities improve   Researchers identify a few cases where twins' genes behave differently.

 

 

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They're called identical twins because their genomes are identical. But even though all of their DNA is the same, they clearly are not. The environment must play a role in how identical twins—and everyone else—uses their genes to become who they are.

Until recently, laboratory techniques have not been sensitive enough to detect how, and to what extent, environmental effects dictate the activity of genes. Now that we have the ability to do so, studies are examining variations in the activity of genes in identical twins to try to start unraveling the relative contributions of genetic and environmental effects."

http://arstechnica.c...dentical-twins/

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 11:20 AM

'Futuristic' treatments come to fruition with cell and gene therapies

 

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One-time treatments that could functionally cure rare diseases. Cyborg T cells trained to kill cancer. A biological hacking method that could allow scientists to rewire errant genes from within. This year, a host of moonshot technologies matured, stoking hopes for real-world applications." more

 

 

http://www.fiercebio...pies/2014-12-24

 



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 03:11 PM

You need to understand that increasing computing power is not a panacea that makes "everything" computable. Not even close actually. Please do not base your scenarios on the belief that increasing computing power will solve all possible computational problems, because it won't. 


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Posted 30 December 2014 - 09:35 PM

You need to understand that increasing computing power is not a panacea that makes "everything" computable. Not even close actually. Please do not base your scenarios on the belief that increasing computing power will solve all possible computational problems, because it won't. 

 

Prehistoric platypus-like reptile uncovered

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 "A bizarre prehistoric platypus-like species of marine reptile with a short neck and duck-like beak has been discovered by palaeontologists in China.

The 248-million-year-old fossil, which has been named Eohupehsuchus brevicollis, belongs to a group of mysterious early Triassic marine reptiles called hupehsuchians, which have so far only been unearthed in two counties in Hubei Province." > more (or less)

 

http://www.abc.net.a.../18/4150618.htm

 

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I shouldn't worry about the facts Platy

 They get out of the way when you're fierce enough and you get a whole new set like teeth.

 

Computers are not the linear processes people think. We're going further ahead than Turing machines

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Clarke's Three Laws are three "laws" of prediction formulated by the British science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke. They are:

  1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
  2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
  3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

 

 

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 09:41 PM

http://www.history.c...-comes-to-light

 

 

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I dont conclude the remains buried are that of Richard III.The evidence is not conclusive for me.



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 09:53 PM

"What is Science?

Presented at the fifteenth annual meeting of the National Science Teachers Association, 1966 in New York City, and reprinted from The Physics Teacher Vol. 7, issue 6, 1969, pp. 313-320 by permission of the editor and the author. [Words and symbols in brackets added by Ralph Leighton.]

I thank Mr. DeRose for the opportunity to join you science teachers. I also am a science teacher. I have much experience only in teaching graduate students in physics, and as a result of the experience I know that I don't know how to teach.

I am sure that you who are real teachers working at the bottom level of this hierarchy of teachers, instructors of teachers, experts on curricula, also are sure that you, too, don't know how to do it; otherwise you wouldn't bother to come to the convention.

The subject "What Is Science" is not my choice. It was Mr. DeRose's subject. But I would like to say that I think that "what is science" is not at all equivalent to "how to teach science," and I must call that to your attention for two reasons. In the first place, from the way that I am preparing to give this lecture, it may seem that I am trying to tell you how to teach science--I am not at all in any way, because I don't know anything about small children. I have one, so I know that I don't know. The other is I think that most of you (because there is so much talk and so many papers and so many experts in the field) have some kind of a feeling of lack of self-confidence. In some way you are always being lectured on how things are not going too well and how you should learn to teach better. I am not going to berate you for the bad work you are doing and indicate how it can definitely be improved; that is not my intention.

As a matter of fact, we have very good students coming into Caltech, and during the years we found them getting better and better. Now how it is done, I don't know. I wonder if you know. I don't want to interfere with the system; it is very good.

Only two days ago we had a conference in which we decided that we don't have to teach a course in elementary quantum mechanics in the graduate school any more. When I was a student, they didn't even have a course in quantum mechanics in the graduate school; it was considered too difficult a subject. When I first started to teach, we had one. Now we teach it to undergraduates. We discover now that we don't have to have elementary quantum mechanics for graduates from other schools. Why is it getting pushed down? Because we are able to teach better in the university, and that is because the students coming up are better trained.

What is science? Of course you all must know, if you teach it. That's common sense. What can I say? If you don't know, every teacher's edition of every textbook gives a complete discussion of the subject. There is some kind of distorted distillation and watered-down and mixed-up words of Francis Bacon from some centuries ago, words which then were supposed to be the deep philosophy of science. But one of the greatest experimental scientists of the time who was really doing something, William Harvey, said that what Bacon said science was, was the science that a lord-chancellor would do. He [Bacon] spoke of making observations, but omitted the vital factor of judgment about what to observe and what to pay attention to.

And so what science is, is not what the philosophers have said it is, and certainly not what the teacher editions say it is. What it is, is a problem which I set for myself after I said I would give this talk.

After some time, I was reminded of a little poem:

A centipede was happy quite, until a toad in fun
Said, "Pray, which leg comes after which?"
This raised his doubts to such a pitch
He fell distracted in the ditch
Not knowing how to run.

All my life, I have been doing science and known what it was, but what I have come to tell you--which foot comes after which--I am unable to do, and furthermore, I am worried by the analogy in the poem that when I go home I will no longer be able to do any research.

There have been a lot of attempts by the various press reporters to get some kind of a capsule of this talk; I prepared it only a little time ago, so it was impossible; but I can see them all rushing out now to write some sort of headline which says: "The Professor called the President of NSTA a toad."

Under these circumstances of the difficulty of the subject, and my dislike of philosophical exposition, I will present it in a very unusual way. I am just going to tell you how I learned what science is.

That's a little bit childish. I learned it as a child. I have had it in my blood from the beginning. And I would like to tell you how it got in. This sounds as though I am trying to tell you how to teach, but that is not my intention. I'm going to tell you what science is like by how I learned what science is like.

My father did it to me. When my mother was carrying me, it is reported--I am not directly aware of the conversation--my father said that "if it's a boy, he'll be a scientist." How did he do it? He never told me I should be a scientist. He was not a scientist; he was a businessman, a sales manager of a uniform company, but he read about science and loved it.

When I was very young--the earliest story I know--when I still ate in a high chair, my father would play a game with me after dinner.

He had brought a whole lot of old rectangular bathroom floor tiles from some place in Long Island City. We sat them up on end, one next to the other, and I was allowed to push the end one and watch the whole thing go down. So far, so good.

Next, the game improved. The tiles were different colors. I must put one white, two blues, one white, two blues, and another white and then two blues--I may want to put another blue, but it must be a white. You recognize already the usual insidious cleverness; first delight him in play, and then slowly inject material of educational value.

Well, my mother, who is a much more feeling woman, began to realize the insidiousness of his efforts and said, "Mel, please let the poor child put a blue tile if he wants to." My father said, "No, I want him to pay attention to patterns. It is the only thing I can do that is mathematics at this earliest level." If I were giving a talk on "what is mathematics," I would already have answered you. Mathematics is looking for patterns. (The fact is that this education had some effect. We had a direct experimental test, at the time I got to kindergarten. We had weaving in those days. They've taken it out; it's too difficult for children. We used to weave colored paper through vertical strips and make patterns. The kindergarten teacher was so amazed that she sent a special letter home to report that this child was very unusual, because he seemed to be able to figure out ahead of time what pattern he was going to get, and made amazingly intricate patterns. So the tile game did do something to me.)

I would like to report other evidence that mathematics is only patterns. When I was at Cornell, I was rather fascinated by the student body, which seems to me was a dilute mixture of some sensible people in a big mass of dumb people studying home economics, etc. including lots of girls. I used to sit in the cafeteria with the students and eat and try to overhear their conversations and see if there was one intelligent word coming out. You can imagine my surprise when I discovered a tremendous thing, it seemed to me.

I listened to a conversation between two girls, and one was explaining that if you want to make a straight line, you see, you go over a certain number to the right for each row you go up--that is, if you go over each time the same amount when you go up a row, you make a straight line--a deep principle of analytic geometry! It went on. I was rather amazed. I didn't realize the female mind was capable of understanding analytic geometry.

She went on and said, "Suppose you have another line coming in from the other side, and you want to figure out where they are going to intersect. Suppose on one line you go over two to the right for every one you go up, and the other line goes over three to the right for every one that it goes up, and they start twenty steps apart," etc.--I was flabbergasted. She figured out where the intersection was. It turned out that one girl was explaining to the other how to knit argyle socks. I, therefore, did learn a lesson: The female mind is capable of understanding analytic geometry. Those people who have for years been insisting (in the face of all obvious evidence to the contrary) that the male and female are equally capable of rational thought may have something. The difficulty may just be that we have never yet discovered a way to communicate with the female mind. If it is done in the right way, you may be able to get something out of it.

Now I will go on with my own experience as a youngster in mathematics. Another thing that my father told me--and I can't quite explain it, because it was more an emotion than a telling--was that the ratio of the circumference to the diameter of all circles was always the same, no matter what the size. That didn't seem to me too unobvious, but the ratio had some marvelous property. That was a wonderful number, a deep number, pi. There was a mystery about this number that I didn't quite understand as a youth, but this was a great thing, and the result was that I looked for pi everywhere.

When I was learning later in school how to make the decimals for fractions, and how to make 3 1/8, 1 wrote 3.125 and, thinking I recognized a friend, wrote that it equals pi, the ratio of circumference to diameter of a circle. The teacher corrected it to 3.1416.

I illustrate these things to show an influence. The idea that there is a mystery, that there is a wonder about the number was important to me--not what the number was. Very much later, when I was doing experiments in the laboratory--I mean my own home laboratory, fiddling around--no, excuse me, I didn't do experiments, I never did; I just fiddled around. Gradually, through books and manuals, I began to discover there were formulas applicable to electricity in relating the current and resistance, and so on. One day, looking at the formulas in some book or other, I discovered a formula for the frequency of a resonant circuit, which was f = 1/2 pi LC, where L is the inductance and C the capacitance of the... circle? You laugh, but I was very serious then. Pi was a thing with circles, and here is pi coming out of an electric circuit. Where was the circle? Do those of you who laughed know how that comes about?

I have to love the thing. I have to look for it. I have to think about it. And then I realized, of course, that the coils are made in circles. About a half year later, I found another book which gave the inductance of round coils and square coils, and there were other pi's in those formulas. I began to think about it again, and I realized that the pi did not come from the circular coils. I understand it better now; but in my heart I still don't know where that circle is, where that pi comes from.

When I was still pretty young--I don't know how old exactly--I had a ball in a wagon I was pulling, and I noticed something, so I ran up to my father to say that "When I pull the wagon, the ball runs to the back, and when I am running with the wagon and stop, the ball runs to the front. Why?

How would you answer?

He said, "That, nobody knows." He said, "It's very general, though, it happens all the time to anything; anything that is moving tends to keep moving; anything standing still tries to maintain that condition. If you look close you will see the ball does not run to the back of the wagon where you start from standing still. It moves forward a bit too, but not as fast as the wagon. The back of the wagon catches up with the ball, which has trouble getting started moving. It's called inertia, that principle." I did run back to check, and sure enough, the ball didn't go backwards. He put the difference between what we know and what we call it very distinctly.

Regarding this business about names and words, I would tell you another story. We used to go up to the Catskill Mountains for vacations. In New York, you go the Catskill Mountains for vacations. The poor husbands had to go to work during the week, but they would come rushing out for weekends and stay with their families. On the weekends, my father would take me for walks in the woods. He often took me for walks, and we learned all about nature, and so on, in the process. But the other children, friends of mine also wanted to go, and tried to get my father to take them. He didn't want to, because he said I was more advanced. I'm not trying to tell you how to teach, because what my father was doing was with a class of just one student; if he had a class of more than one, he was incapable of doing it.

So we went alone for our walk in the woods. But mothers were very powerful in those day's as they are now, and they convinced the other fathers that they had to take their own sons out for walks in the woods. So all fathers took all sons out for walks in the woods one Sunday afternoon. The next day, Monday, we were playing in the fields and this boy said to me, "See that bird standing on the stump there? What's the name of it?"

I said, "I haven't got the slightest idea."

He said, "It’s a brown-throated thrush. Your father doesn't teach you much about science."

I smiled to myself, because my father had already taught me that [the name] doesn't tell me anything about the bird. He taught me "See that bird? It's a brown-throated thrush, but in Germany it's called a halsenflugel, and in Chinese they call it a chung ling and even if you know all those names for it, you still know nothing about the bird--you only know something about people; what they call that bird. Now that thrush sings, and teaches its young to fly, and flies so many miles away during the summer across the country, and nobody knows how it finds its way," and so forth. There is a difference between the name of the thing and what goes on.

The result of this is that I cannot remember anybody's name, and when people discuss physics with me they often are exasperated when they say "the Fitz-Cronin effect," and I ask "What is the effect?" and I can't remember the name.

I would like to say a word or two--may I interrupt my little tale--about words and definitions, because it is necessary to learn the words.

It is not science. That doesn't mean, just because it is not science, that we don't have to teach the words. We are not talking about what to teach; we are talking about what science is. It is not science to know how to change Centigrade to Fahrenheit. It's necessary, but it is not exactly science. In the same sense, if you were discussing what art is, you wouldn't say art is the knowledge of the fact that a 3-B pencil is softer than a 2-H pencil. It's a distinct difference. That doesn't mean an art teacher shouldn't teach that, or that an artist gets along very well if he doesn't know that. (Actually, you can find out in a minute by trying it; but that's a scientific way that art teachers may not think of explaining.)

In order to talk to each other, we have to have words, and that's all right. It's a good idea to try to see the difference, and it's a good idea to know when we are teaching the tools of science, such as words, and when we are teaching science itself.

To make my point still clearer, I shall pick out a certain science book to criticize unfavorably, which is unfair, because I am sure that with little ingenuity, I can find equally unfavorable things to say about others. There is a first grade science book which, in the first lesson of the first grade, begins in an unfortunate manner to teach science, because it starts off an the wrong idea of what science is. There is a picture of a dog--a windable toy dog--and a hand comes to the winder, and then the dog is able to move. Under the last picture, it says "What makes it move?" Later on, there is a picture of a real dog and the question, "What makes it move?" Then there is a picture of a motorbike and the question, "What makes it move?" and so on.

I thought at first they were getting ready to tell what science was going to be about--physics, biology, chemistry--but that wasn't it. The answer was in the teacher's edition of the book: the answer I was trying to learn is that "energy makes it move."

Now, energy is a very subtle concept. It is very, very difficult to get right. What I meant is that it is not easy to understand energy well enough to use it right, so that you can deduce something correctly using the energy idea--it is beyond the first grade. It would be equally well to say that "God makes it move," or "spirit makes it move," or "movability makes it move." (In fact, one could equally well say "energy makes it stop.")

Look at it this way: that’s only the definition of energy; it should be reversed. We might say when something can move that it has energy in it, but not what makes it move is energy. This is a very subtle difference. It's the same with this inertia proposition.

Perhaps I can make the difference a little clearer this way: If you ask a child what makes the toy dog move, you should think about what an ordinary human being would answer. The answer is that you wound up the spring; it tries to unwind and pushes the gear around.

What a good way to begin a science course! Take apart the toy; see how it works. See the cleverness of the gears; see the ratchets. Learn something about the toy, the way the toy is put together, the ingenuity of people devising the ratchets and other things. That's good. The question is fine. The answer is a little unfortunate, because what they were trying to do is teach a definition of what is energy. But nothing whatever is learned.

Suppose a student would say, "I don't think energy makes it move." Where does the discussion go from there?

I finally figured out a way to test whether you have taught an idea or you have only taught a definition.

Test it this way: you say, "Without using the new word which you have just learned, try to rephrase what you have just learned in your own language." Without using the word "energy," tell me what you know now about the dog's motion." You cannot. So you learned nothing about science. That may be all right. You may not want to learn something about science right away. You have to learn definitions. But for the very first lesson, is that not possibly destructive?

I think for lesson number one, to learn a mystic formula for answering questions is very bad. The book has some others: "gravity makes it fall;" "the soles of your shoes wear out because of friction." Shoe leather wears out because it rubs against the sidewalk and the little notches and bumps on the sidewalk grab pieces and pull them off. To simply say it is because of friction, is sad, because it's not science.

My father dealt a little bit with energy and used the term after I got a little bit of the idea about it. What he would have done I know, because he did in fact essentially the same thing--though not the same example of the toy dog. He would say, "It moves because the sun is shining," if he wanted to give the same lesson.

I would say, "No. What has that to do with the sun shining? It moved because I wound up the springs."

"And why, my friend, are you able to move to wind up the spring?"

"I eat."

"What, my friend, do you eat?"

"I eat plants."

"And how do they grow?"

"They grow because the sun is shining."

And it is the same with the [real] dog.

What about gasoline? Accumulated energy of the sun, which is captured by plants and preserved in the ground. Other examples all end with the sun. And so the same idea about the world that our textbook is driving at is phrased in a very exciting way.

All the things that we see that are moving, are moving because the sun is shining. It does explain the relationship of one source of energy to another, and it can be denied by the child. He could say, "I don't think it is on account of the sun shining," and you can start a discussion. So there is a difference. (Later I could challenge him with the tides, and what makes the earth turn, and have my hand on mystery again.)

That is just an example of the difference between definitions (which are necessary) and science. The only objection in this particular case was that it was the first lesson. It must certainly come in later, telling you what energy is, but not to such a simple question as "What makes a [toy] dog move?" A child should be given a child's answer. "Open it up; let's look at it."

During those walks in the woods, I learned a great deal. In the case of birds, for example, I already mentioned migration, but I will give you another example of birds in the woods. Instead of naming them, my father would say, "Look, notice that the bird is always pecking in its feathers. It pecks a lot in its feathers. Why do you think it pecks the feathers?"

I guessed it's because the feathers are ruffled, and he's trying to straighten them out. He said, "Okay, when would the feathers get ruffled, or how would they get ruffled?"

"When he flies. When he walks around, it's okay; but when he flies it ruffles the feathers."

Then he would say, "You would guess then when the bird just landed he would have to peck more at his feathers than after he has straightened them out and has just been walking around the ground for a while. Okay, let's look."

So we would look, and we would watch, and it turned out, as far as I could make out, that the bird pecked about as much and as often no matter how long he was walking an the ground and not just directly after flight.

So my guess was wrong, and I couldn't guess the right reason. My father revealed the reason.

It is that the birds have lice. There is a little flake that comes off the feather, my father taught me, stuff that can be eaten, and the louse eats it. And then an the loose, there is a little bit of wax in the joints between the sections of the leg that oases out, and there is a mite that lives in there that can eat that wax. Now the mite has such a good source of food that it doesn't digest it too well, so from the rear end there comes a liquid that has too much sugar, and in that sugar lives a tiny creature, etc.

The facts are not correct; the spirit is correct. First, I learned about parasitism, one on the other, on the other, on the other. Second, he went on to say that in the world whenever there is any source of something that could be eaten to make life go, some form of life finds a way to make use of that source; and that each little bit of left over stuff is eaten by something.

Now the point of this is that the result of observation, even if I were unable to come to the ultimate conclusion, was a wonderful piece of gold, with marvelous results. It was something marvelous.

Suppose I were told to observe, to make a list, to write down, to do this, to look, and when I wrote my list down, it was filed with 130 other lists in the back of a notebook. I would learn that the result of observation is relatively dull, that nothing much comes of it.

I think it is very important--at least it was to me--that if you are going to teach people to make observations, you should show that something wonderful can come from them. I learned then what science was about: it was patience. If you looked, and you watched, and you paid attention, you got a great reward from it--although possibly not every time. As a result, when I became a more mature man, I would painstakingly, hour after hour, for years, work on problems--sometimes many years, sometimes shorter times; many of them failing, lots of stuff going into the wastebasket--but every once in a while there was the gold of a new understanding that I had learned to expect when I was a kid, the result of observation. For I did not learn that observation was not worthwhile.

Incidentally, in the forest we learned other things. We would go for walks and see all the regular things, and talk about many things: about the growing plants, the struggle of the trees for light, how they try to get as high as they can, and to solve the problem of getting water higher than 35 or 40 feet, the little plants on the ground that look for the little bits of light that come through all that growth, and so forth.

One day, after we had seen all this, my father took me to the forest again and said, "In all this time we have been looking at the forest we have only seen half of what is going on, exactly half."

I said, "What do you mean?"

He said, "We have been looking at how all these things grow; but for each bit of growth, there must be the same amount of decay--otherwise, the materials would be consumed forever: dead trees would lie there, having used up all the stuff from the air and the ground, and it wouldn't get back into the ground or the air, so nothing else could grow because there is no material available. There must be for each bit of growth exactly the same amount of decay."

There then followed many walks in the woods during which we broke up old stumps, saw frizzy bags and funguses growing; he couldn’t show me bacteria, but we saw the softening effects, and so on. [Thus] I saw the forest as a process of the constant turning of materials.

There were many such things, descriptions of things, in odd ways. He often started to talk about things like this: "Suppose a man from Mars were to come down and look at the world." For example, when I was playing with my electric trains, he told me that there is a great wheel being turned by water which is connected by filaments of copper, which spread out and spread out and spread out in all directions; and then there are little wheels, and all those little wheels turn when the big wheel turns. The relation between them is only that there is copper and iron, nothing else--no moving parts. You turn one wheel here, and all the little wheels all over the place turn, and your train is one of them. It was a wonderful world my father told me about.

You might wonder what he got out of it all. I went to MIT. I went to Princeton. I came home, and he said, "Now you've got a science education. I have always wanted to know something that I have never understood, and so, my son, I want you to explain it to me."

I said yes.

He said, "I understand that they say that light is emitted from an atom when it goes from one state to another, from an excited state to a state of lower energy.

I said, "That's right."

"And light is a kind of particle, a photon, I think they call it."

"Yes."

"So if the photon comes out of the atom when it goes from the excited to the lower state, the photon must have been in the atom in the excited state."

I said, "Well, no."

He said, "Well, how do you look at it so you can think of a particle photon coming out without it having been in there in the excited state?"

I thought a few minutes, and I said, "I'm sorry; I don't know. I can't explain it to you."

He was very disappointed after all these years and years of trying to teach me something, that it came out with such poor results.

What science is, I think, may be something like this: There was on this planet an evolution of life to a stage that there were evolved animals, which are intelligent. I don't mean just human beings, but animals which play and which can learn something from experience--like cats. But at this stage each animal would have to learn from its own experience. They gradually develop, until some animal [primates?] could learn from experience more rapidly and could even learn from another’s experience by watching, or one could show the other, or he saw what the other one did. So there came a possibility that all might learn it, but the transmission was inefficient and they would die, and maybe the one who learned it died, too, before he could pass it on to others.

The question is: is it possible to learn more rapidly what somebody learned from some accident than the rate at which the thing is being forgotten, either because of bad memory or because of the death of the learner or inventors?

So there came a time, perhaps, when for some species [humans?] the rate at which learning was increased, reached such a pitch that suddenly a completely new thing happened: things could be learned by one individual animal, passed on to another, and another fast enough that it was not lost to the race. Thus became possible an accumulation of knowledge of the race.

This has been called time-binding. I don't know who first called it this. At any rate, we have here [in this hall] some samples of those animals, sitting here trying to bind one experience to another, each one trying to learn from the other.

This phenomenon of having a memory for the race, of having an accumulated knowledge passable from one generation to another, was new in the world--but it had a disease in it: it was possible to pass on ideas which were not profitable for the race. The race has ideas, but they are not necessarily profitable.

So there came a time in which the ideas, although accumulated very slowly, were all accumulations not only of practical and useful things, but great accumulations of all types of prejudices, and strange and odd beliefs.

Then a way of avoiding the disease was discovered. This is to doubt that what is being passed from the past is in fact true, and to try to find out ab initio again from experience what the situation is, rather than trusting the experience of the past in the form in which it is passed down. And that is what science is: the result of the discovery that it is worthwhile rechecking by new direct experience, and not necessarily trusting the [human] race['s] experience from the past. I see it that way. That is my best definition.

I would like to remind you all of things that you know very well in order to give you a little enthusiasm. In religion, the moral lessons are taught, but they are not just taught once, you are inspired again and again, and I think it is necessary to inspire again and again, and to remember the value of science for children, for grown-ups, and everybody else, in several ways; not only [so] that we will become better citizens, more able to control nature and so on.

There are other things.

There is the value of the worldview created by science. There is the beauty and the wonder of the world that is discovered through the results of these new experiences. That is to say, the wonders of the content which I just reminded you of; that things move because the sun is shining. (Yet, not everything moves because the sun is shining. The earth rotates independent of the sun shining, and the nuclear reaction recently produced energy on the earth, a new source. Probably volcanoes are generally moved from a source different from the shining
sun.)

The world looks so different after learning science. For example, trees are made of air, primarily. When they are burned, they go back to air, and in the flaming heat is released the flaming heat of the sun which was bound in to convert the air into tree, and in the ash is the small remnant of the part which did not come from air that came from the solid earth, instead. These are beautiful things, and the content of science is wonderfully full of them. They are very inspiring, and they can be used to inspire others.

Another of the qualities of science is that it teaches the value of rational thought as well as the importance of freedom of thought; the positive results that come from doubting that the lessons are all true. You must here distinguish--especially in teaching--the science from the forms or procedures that are sometimes used in developing science. It is easy to say, "We write, experiment, and observe, and do this or that." You can copy that form exactly. But great religions are dissipated by following form without remembering the direct content of the teaching of the great leaders. In the same way, it is possible to follow form and call it science, but that is pseudo-science. In this way, we all suffer from the kind of tyranny we have today in the many institutions that have come under the influence of pseudoscientific advisers.

We have many studies in teaching, for example, in which people make observations, make lists, do statistics, and so on, but these do not thereby become established science, established knowledge. They are merely an imitative form of science analogous to the South Sea Islanders' airfields--radio towers, etc., made out of wood. The islanders expect a great airplane to arrive. They even build wooden airplanes of the same shape as they see in the foreigners' airfields around them, but strangely enough, their wood planes do not fly. The result of this pseudoscientific imitation is to produce experts, which many of you are. [But] you teachers, who are really teaching children at the bottom of the heap, can maybe doubt the experts. As a matter of fact, I can also define science another way: Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.

When someone says, "Science teaches such and such," he is using the word incorrectly. Science doesn't teach anything; experience teaches it. If they say to you, "Science has shown such and such," you might ask, "How does science show it? How did the scientists find out? How? What? Where?"

It should not be "science has shown" but "this experiment, this effect, has shown." And you have as much right as anyone else, upon hearing about the experiments--but be patient and listen to all the evidence--to judge whether a sensible conclusion has been arrived at.

In a field which is so complicated [as education] that true science is not yet able to get anywhere, we have to rely on a kind of old-fashioned wisdom, a kind of definite straightforwardness. I am trying to inspire the teacher at the bottom to have some hope and some self-confidence in common sense and natural intelligence. The experts who are leading you may be wrong.

I have probably ruined the system, and the students that are coming into Caltech no longer will be any good. I think we live in an unscientific age in which almost all the buffeting of communications and television--words, books, and so on--are unscientific. As a result, there is a considerable amount of intellectual tyranny in the name of science.

Finally, with regard to this time-binding, a man cannot live beyond the grave. Each generation that discovers something from its experience must pass that on, but it must pass that on with a delicate balance of respect and disrespect, so that the [human] race--now that it is aware of the disease to which it is liable--does not inflict its errors too rigidly on its youth, but it does pass on the accumulated wisdom, plus the wisdom that it may not be wisdom.

It is necessary to teach both to accept and to reject the past with a kind of balance that takes considerable skill. Science alone of all the subjects contains within itself the lesson of the danger of belief in the infallibility of the greatest teachers of the preceding generation.

So carry on. Thank you."

 

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About the Automatic Statistician project

"Making sense of data is one of the great challenges of the information age we live in. While it is becoming easier to collect and store all kinds of data, from personal medical data, to scientific data, to public data, and commercial data, there are relatively few people trained in the statistical and machine learning methods required to test hypotheses, make predictions, and otherwise create interpretable knowledge from this data. The Automatic Statistician project aims to build an artificial intelligence for data science, helping people make sense of their data.

The current version of the Automatic Statistician is a system which explores an open-ended space of possible statistical models to discover a good explanation of the data, and then produces a detailed report with figures and natural-language text. While at Cambridge, James Lloyd, David Duvenaud and Zoubin Ghahramani, in collaboration with Roger Grosse and Joshua Tenenbaum at MIT, developed an early version of this system which not only automatically produces a 10-15 page report describing patterns discovered in data, but returns a statistical model with state-of-the-art extrapolation performance evaluated over real time series data sets from various domains. The system is based on reasoning over an open-ended language of nonparametric models using Bayesian inference.

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 10:03 PM

Instant-start computers possible with new breakthrough

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To encode data, today's computer memory technology uses electric currents -- a major limiting factor for reliability and shrinkability, and the source of significant power consumption. If data could instead be encoded without current -- for example, by an electric field applied across an insulator -- it would require much less energy, and make things like low-power, instant-on computing a ubiquitous reality. A team at Cornell University led by postdoctoral associate John Heron, who works jointly with Darrell Schlom, professor of Industrial Chemistry in the Department of Materials Science and Engineering, and Dan Ralph, professor of Physics in the College of Arts and Sciences, has made a breakthrough in that direction with a room-temperature magnetoelectric memory device. Equivalent to one computer bit, it exhibits the holy grail of next-generation nonvolatile memory: magnetic switchability, in two steps, with nothing but an electric field. Their results were published online Dec. 17 in Nature, along with an associated "News and Views" article."  more>>

 

http://esciencenews....ew.breakthrough



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 10:24 PM

Vegan Diet keeps one 100 yr old

 

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"Wareham himself adopted a vegan diet in midlife after reading research that showed animal protein raises cholesterol. He credits his good health— and his clearness of mind, the thing he’s most grateful for today— in large part to that decision.

 

http://www.foxnews.c...s-to-longevity/

 

n the other hand it could be knitting is the answer:

 

104-year-old credits knitting for her longevity

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 10:35 PM

US parents set to be offered experimental genome testing for newborns as study finds 'robust interest' in technology

 

 

"American parents are set to be given the option to have their the genomes of healthy newborn babies sequenced as part of a government-funded research program that could herald a revolution in medicine. 

The National Institutes of Health last year awarded a combined $25 million to four projects looking at different aspects of gene sequencing in newborns.

Now, they are set to begin testing for some parents within weeks." >>> more

 
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Posted 30 December 2014 - 10:41 PM

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Japan Gears up Human Brain Project

 

http://www.eurekaler...s-ojj120514.php

 

 

 



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 10:47 PM

http://www.medicalne...cles/287500.php

Scientists uncovering molecular map of autism-related genes

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"Past studies have identified numerous genes believed to play a role in the development of autism. Now, a new study reveals how scientists from the US have uncovered a molecular network consisting of some of these genes. It is hoped that the network will aid the discovery of new autism-related genes.



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 11:08 PM

MIT Scientists: Robots Will Soon Be Able to Run Like Cheetahs

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Scientists have been experimenting with four-legged robots for years, trying to see if they could be used as pack animals for carrying heavy loads over a difficult terrain. But the machine's power requirements limited their potential. That's changed, with a running robot designed by a group of engineers at Massachusetts Institute of Technology that operates on batteries rather than heavy gasoline-powered engines.

Scientists say their robots will soon be able to run like cheetahs." more>>>

 

http://www.voanews.c...it/2579114.html

 

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 11:24 PM

Do you have anything beyond theoreticals such as scientific findings that show QA is possible? Also if you reassemble someone how do you know its the same consciousness?



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 10:31 AM

Do you have anything beyond theoreticals such as scientific findings that show QA is possible? Also if you reassemble someone how do you know its the same consciousness?

 

 

hello Cloudjin

 

 

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we've started resurrecting less complex (but still complex systems) .

 

eg http://www.nature.co...he-dead-1.10261

 

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To work to the individual requires IMO a matrix/grid, and this can be done mathematically.

Resurrection of an extinct species to resurrecting a dead individual in ONLY a matter of calculation. PLatypus thinks there is a limit to computing, but I dont think there can be. However computing is not just present computing but hypercomputation. Calculation by maths and allied fields eg geometry like grassmanians.

 

People thought you mad for trying to calculate the circumference of the earth or distance to the moon, to the north star. But techniques were found.

 

We've resurrected 14 extinct species of animals and thwe next logical step is to resurrect extinct individuals.

 

see wiki or back in this thread where I list them as at 2014

 

ones being attempted now include of course mammoth but google which ones are candidates:

 

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These are done from artefacts (bits of DNA) and huge calculation by causation AND probability. Both are used.

 

It's detective work. As A.I. progresses -  which is likely -  cross reference calculation will be possible revealing inevitabilities.

 

Your dead great great grandfather was not out of context but existed solely within a moving grid, much of which can be ascertained: the rest calculated by deduction.

 

Comparison of deterministic and probabilistic calculation of

 

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note similarity to Periodic table. In fact that's how the pt was constructed, and it one of the pillars of science.

 

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When I saw Bronowski describe Mendeleev discovery of it I lept in my seat -  one part of the universe couldn't be following laws and the rest no laws. Where there are laws you might be able to get astoundingly good predictions. It's a moving maxtrix IMO  not jut moving, which is changing positions, but many dimensioned - - at least that's my model. I understand there are other models. and conflicts, but I I stopped to consider these all the time I couldn't formulate a philosophy idea.

 

I agree it needs to be taken up by scientists, but if I'm right that is inevitable.

 

Your argument is about the size of calculation. I think I can prove that this has got bigger and will get much bigger?

 

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I've steered away from any religion, but QA and religions are not in conflict: resurrection has already started with de-extinction.  How far do you think that will go?

 

It is a fundamental DIFFICULT change in mind to accept there is not nor ever has been death.

 

I think an actor could understand this more readily because they deal with it daily.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 10:58 AM

So far I haven't seen ANY theoretical analysis of QA. It seems like the argumentation boils down to: It's a nice idea so therefore it must be possible, because big computers and new algorithms work like magic. Stopgam you should spend some time studying computation, basic programming, physics and math, if you had started when you got the idea of QA you'd already be quite advanced.



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 11:06 AM

So far I haven't seen ANY theoretical analysis of QA. It seems like the argumentation boils down to: It's a nice idea so therefore it must be possible, because big computers and new algorithms work like magic. Stopgam you should spend some time studying computation, basic programming, physics and math, if you had started when you got the idea of QA you'd already be quite advanced.

 

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Generally I'm coming from axioms of philosophy that I've accepted or discovered in my studies which have been more than some! But they do include physics and maths and especially computing and A.I. The more axioms you master the faster and more successfully you can start juggling them. eliminating false ones, deducing new ones.

 

I think we'll resurrect the first dead people in the 2020's 30's though predictions can be way off. The reason I think this is computation, maths and certainly machine intelligence.

 

Quantum archaeology is important enough to be a separate research field and if there weren't many unknowns it wouldn't need to be researched. But it is not contra science: every part of it is based on what is known and forecasts of what coming technology will be able to deliver.

 

 

 

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I understand it's difficult and revolutionary, but it has precursors eg Tipler and the philosopher Nikolai Fedorov.

 

There is no right way in physics. You pick your model and test your conjecture against it.

 

An important axiom is reversibility.

 

"In an interactive system which the universe seems to be (although we wrestle with only 4% of it), things in one state are linked by immutable laws to things in all other states. QA's conjecture is the whole of any person's past is necessarily deducible from few starting points in the present, known variables, with enough cross-referenced calculation done in  techniques like symbolic maths and hypercomputation, and the laws of science. From these starting points in spacetime, zillions of inevitable patterns are tested about a history until a correct description map is achieved. This is the principle of reversibilit"

 

 

 

a.i. will resurrect us faster than traditional science methods, which I'm sketching here in this thread -which has become  logging t- m the 2020'a


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 12:36 PM

 

 

 

DARPA ROBOT FINALS

 

this should be good

 

 

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http://www.gizmag.co...hallenge/35404/

 

A.I. invented to catch criminals BEFORE they Act

 

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Prediction is essential for QA -  which does it backwards (restrodiction)

 

the same criminal genes have been found in mice.

 

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http://upstart.bizjo...ligence-to.html

 

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Future of robotics

Future of robotics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_robotics

 

This article is about the future of robotics for civil use. Co-operation between robots with different capabilities is one of the aspects which can influence on the future of robotics. In this situation coordination is an important factor which must be take to account for making a robust behavior for each robot.! >>>more wiki

 

 

Humanoid robots:

Modular robots: can be built from standard building blocks that can be combined in different ways.

  • Utility fog
  • M-Tran - a snake-like modular robot that uses genetic algorithms to evolve walking programs
  • Self replicating robots [2] [3] - modular robots that can produce copies of themselves using existing blocks.
  • Swarmanoid [4] [5] is a project that uses 3 specialized classes of robots (footbots, handbots and eyebots) to create an effective swarm. Such a swarm should be able to, for example, clean a bedroom with each robot doing a specialized task.
  • Self-Reconfiguring Modular Robotics

Educational toy robots:

Sports robots:

 

What Rare Disorder Is Hiding in Your DNA?

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Last spring Laura Murphy, then 28 years old, went to a doctor to find out if a harmless flap of skin she had always had on the back of her neck was caused by a genetic mutation. Once upon a time, maybe five years ago, physicians would have focused on just that one question. But today doctors tend to run tests that pick up mutations underlying a range of hereditary conditions. Murphy learned not only that a genetic defect was indeed responsible for the flap but also that she had another inherited genetic mutation." more

 

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http://www.scientifi...ng-in-your-dna/

 

 

 

Collaborative mapping project will chart the Amazon's rivers

 

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Crowdsourced mapping efforts are helpful in many places, but they're most useful in corners of the globe where even the professional maps are incomplete -- you can address gaps in coverage that might be difficult for distant observers to fill. And OpenStreetMap knows it. The community-driven site has just launched Mapazonia, a project that asks you to help chart the Amazon's rivers and roads. It's not expecting comprehensive data when the area spans 2.1 million square miles, but it believes that your first-hand knowledge could put missing towns on the map and fix inaccuracies in the shoreline." more


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 01:45 PM

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Wind-Up Radio inventor made Commander of British Empire.

 

 

"The key to success is to risk thinking unconventional thoughts. Convention is the enemy of progress. As long as you've got slightly more perception than the average wrapped loaf, you could invent something"

 

 

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Ming Dynasty bridge is discovered at bottom of dried up Chinese lake

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stone working one

 

It was once China's longest lake bridge, stretching for nearly two miles across the surface of Poyang Lake and providing a crucial transport link for those who lived there.

As the lake level rose it disappeared into a watery grave, buried under the surface for almost 400 years, but now a prolonged drought means it emerges during the dry season.

For the last two years visitors have travelled to see the Ming Dynasty creation as it appears among the mud in the Poyang basin, in Jiangxi province, south east China."


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:17 PM

 

So far I haven't seen ANY theoretical analysis of QA. It seems like the argumentation boils down to: It's a nice idea so therefore it must be possible, because big computers and new algorithms work like magic. Stopgam you should spend some time studying computation, basic programming, physics and math, if you had started when you got the idea of QA you'd already be quite advanced.

 

Generally I'm coming from axioms of philosophy that I've accepted or discovered in my studies which have been more than some! But they do include physics and maths and especially computing and A.I. The more axioms you master the faster and more successfully you can start juggling them. eliminating false ones, deducing new ones.

 

Sorry I don't think philosophy (which is not a science) is very useful here - this is a mathematical problem and an engineering-issue in the end. If you really have some science-background why do your writings show a lack of analytic critical thinking and quantitative analysis?  

Quantum archaeology is important enough to be a separate research field and if there weren't many unknowns it wouldn't need to be researched. But it is not contra science: every part of it is based on what is known and forecasts of what coming technology will be able to deliver.

 

That is factually incorrect, philosophy is not a science and philosophical argumentation does not help here. No analysis of the issue at hand has been presented so far, and with analysis I mean something quantitative and not just adjectives and hype. Nobody hasn't even tried to list components of the system needed to "resurrect" anything, but still you believe (baselessly) that such a system will exist in 2030s (very soon). Lack of analytic thinking is not acceptable, you need to do better. BTW, this is what you would hear in peer-review if you wanted to publish this stuff. 

I understand it's difficult and revolutionary, but it has precursors eg Tipler and the philosopher Nikolai Fedorov.

 

 

I don't know Fedorov but Tipler is a religious quack. 

There is no right way in physics. You pick your model and test your conjecture against it.

 

That is incorrect, physics is ultimately an empiric science. Infinitely more useful than philosophy btw. :)

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 04:01 PM


Sorry I don't think philosophy (which is not a science) is very useful here

 

This is a philosophy forum

 

 

>>>>Tipler is a religious quack<<<<

 

That is insulting. It's banned in philosophical argument.

 

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"Frank J. Tipler is a physicist and cosmologist perhaps best known for concepts such as the Omega Point or The Cosmological Singularity. He is a professor of mathematical physics at Tulane University."

 

Here's a picture of him at a blackboard to prove it - which is empirical. Other than that you'll need to wait till the end of the universe to check his theories.

 

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 Some of Tipler's work is profound

 

 

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 05:22 PM

It does not matter what the name of this forum is. 

 

Regarding Tipler, I stand with my verdict, his ideation is not lucid/sane:

 

https://en.wikipedia...ga_Point#Tipler

 

Frank Tipler uses the term Omega Point to describe what he maintains is the ultimate fate of the universe required by the laws of physics. Tipler identifies this concept as the Christian God and in later writing, infers correctness of Christian belief from this concept

 

Within the simulation, this appears to be the dead rising. Tipler equates this state with the Christian heaven.

 


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:35 PM

How Science is trying to resurrect the dead.

Quantum Archaeology posits resurrection of everyone on earth will be available near the advent of post-human machine intelligence using emerging statistical probability and number crunching techniques to achieve massively accurate retrodiction. Robotic resurrection would then follow as science and technology converge.

 

Sounds great, but i can't imagine what it would take to undo eons of entropy.

 

I think its not likely that the information is kept somewhere out there, its dispersed all over the space and perhaps even time..

 

(until our universe we live in is already a simulation - it would make this archaeology QA idea more possible)
 



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Posted 01 January 2015 - 01:38 AM

Hi stopgam. I also read about AI and that machines could surpass us on the food chain. So would AI render the benefits from QA moot?


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Posted 01 January 2015 - 02:58 AM

 

How Science is trying to resurrect the dead.

Quantum Archaeology posits resurrection of everyone on earth will be available near the advent of post-human machine intelligence using emerging statistical probability and number crunching techniques to achieve massively accurate retrodiction. Robotic resurrection would then follow as science and technology converge.

 

Sounds great, but i can't imagine what it would take to undo eons of entropy.

 

I think its not likely that the information is kept somewhere out there, its dispersed all over the space and perhaps even time..

 

(until our universe we live in is already a simulation - it would make this archaeology QA idea more possible)
 

 

 

 

You dont need a physical reversal. You're constructing grids from cross-referencing statistics. Very few artefacts survive into the present intact, but from traces you can jigsaw back.

 

A giant maths jigsaw.

 

I've drafted QA in Classical physics for fun.

 

 

 

"Reversibility

 

Is the universe reversible?

 

Time reversal invariance

 

The laws of physics appear to be time reversal invariant under an operation involving inverting the parity and charge of all its elements.

This is true of both classical and quantum physics.

People seem to have a hard time accepting this symmetry for some reason."

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http://gizmodo.com/t...ls-t-1676823775

 

 

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$999 human-sized Luna could usher in the age of the personal robot

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#1528 Julia36

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 03:05 AM

Hi stopgam. I also read about AI and that machines could surpass us on the food chain. So would AI render the benefits from QA moot?

 

Hi Cloudjin

 

I guess A.I. will accelerate resurrection. There is a massive rick with it of total destruction of earth, the galaxy and the universe...but it may also be brilliant. No-one knows.

 

Stuff will happen at first like better medicine and age halting - all done with weak a.i.

 

If full A.I. is built and it is contained safely. we should  hit relative Utopia.

 

Resurrection may be routine and a branch of medicine and a civil right.  Recursive Civilization will then occur.

 

The dangers of A.I. are extreme. 2 UK government bodies are trying to gage the risk

after a 100 scientist committee assessed it in 2002, and a others in USA & EU.

 

We merge with A.I. or get control over them. A Superintelligence (full A.I.) would be too clever to understand unless there was a great containment strat5egy that was water tight.

 

we have to expect the unexpected from about 2022/3 are neoromorphic chips give us thinking computers. IBM is big time into designing them.  Kurzveil said 1000 times human brain power on your mobile by 2029, but it could be much earlier.

 

Fact: it is coming. So are the dead.

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Mazor, With Help From Soros, Brings Robots to the Operating Room

Things weren’t looking too hot for surgical robot company, Israel-based Mazor until recently, when it has sold 4 of its mechanical surgeons at a price tag of $849,000 per item. Mazor, based in Israel, has illustrious backers like George Soros, who has a 2.4% stake in the company, the fourth largest, according to Bloomberg.

Mazor specializes in developing robots to perform spinal surgery, and until it managed to sell four robots in December, one to a U.S. hospital and 3 in China and Taiwan, the company’s shares were down 46% for the year. Since the sales were made, the stock has risen 14%. Spine surgery represents a potential $8.5 billion market, and Mazor is convincing hospitals that its robots are a safer, quicker alternative to conventional spine surgery. CEO Ori Hadomi said, “We’re still small, and every system counts. Between quarters, there will be some bumps, but there is an annual trajectory of growth.”

The company’s robots use 3-D imaging to locate places to put replacement screws in the spine. Mazor depends on the budgets of hospitals, and some may be wary of shelling out nearly $1 million for the robots. However, Wall Street likes the stock, with 6 out of 7 of its analysts with buy ratings, and while the company has yet to be profitable, it is projected to increase revenues by 11% in the next year. With doubts clearing up over U.S. healthcare, Hadomi is confident more hospitals will make the investment." >>>

http://jewishbusines...operating-room/

 

 

The year in robots: 10 reasons why venture capitalists still love hardware

 

http://www.therobotr...-silicon-valley

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AI Brings Impressive Advances and a Glimpse Into the Future ...

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When will man become machine?

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the environment's being mapped out.

 

Frog that gives birth to live tadpoles discovered in Sulawesi

 

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From those plot points an entire grid can be constructed, the unknowns filled in by logs. In a specified area of the past enough can be deduced to describe any dead person completely. Then we'll cure them with coming micro robotics.

 

I saw a proto in a DARPA lab in 2006 and needed a microscope!

 

 

 


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 11:48 AM

 

Sounds great, but i can't imagine what it would take to undo eons of entropy.

 

I think its not likely that the information is kept somewhere out there, its dispersed all over the space and perhaps even time..

 

(until our universe we live in is already a simulation - it would make this archaeology QA idea more possible)
 

 

 

Quantum Archaeology Confirmed:

 

one of the tenants of QA has been confirmed:

 

 

Eagle simulation can go backwards and forwards in 'cosmic time'

  • Researchers at Durham University in the UK and Leiden University in the Netherlands have made an entire simulation of the universe

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"Scientists have created an entire simulation of the universe in order to understand the formation of galaxies, stars and more.

The man-made cosmos is a computer simulation in which galaxies similar to those observed by astronomers grow and evolve.

Two of the world's most powerful supercomputers - the 'Cosmology Machine' at the University of Durham and 'Curie' in Paris - were used to conduct the simulations, which took several months in total to run."

 

from  site:

"this computer calculation models the formation of structures in a cosmological volume, 100 Megaparsecs on a side (over 300 million light-years). This is large enough to contain 10,000 galaxies of the size of the Milky Way or bigger, enabling a comparison with the whole zoo of galaxies visible in the Hubble Deep field for example.

 

This website contains downloadable images and movies, many of which are located in Highlights or Downloads.

 

The simulation starts when the Universe is still very uniform - no stars nor galaxies had formed yet - with cosmological parameters motivated by observations by the Planck satellite of the cosmic microwave background.  Crucial parameters are the density of dark matter - which allows structures to grow, baryonic matter - the gas from which stars form, and the cosmological constant - responsible for cosmic acceleration.

Dark matter enables structures like galaxies to form, even while the Universe is expanding rapidly. Gas falling into these dark matter structures cools and forms stars: this is how galaxies form. However core collapse supernovae, exploding massive stars, and AGN (Active Galactic Nuclei), bursting supermassive black holes, severely limit what fraction of the gas forms stars. The devastating effects of these explosions can be directly seen in starburst galaxies such as M82 and massive galaxies such as those in the Perseus cluster. Modelling these aspects accurately is key to produce a virtual universe that looks like the real one."

 


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QA asserts parts of space=time can be simulated enough to run them backwards and describe the dead -  then resurrect them.

 

 

More companies employing robots to do work that humans once did


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The Internet of Things

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What is Internet of Things?

 

"The Internet of Things (IoT) is a scenario in which objects, animals or people are provided with unique identifiers and the ability to transfer data over a network without requiring human-to-human or human-to-computer interaction. IoT has evolved from the convergence of wireless technologies, micro-electromechanical systems (MEMS) and the Internet." more

 

 

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Automation Engineer Jobs

https://www.google.c...n engineer jobs

 

One of the nest videos around on this (below):

 

 


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:48 PM

 

How Science is trying to resurrect the dead.

Quantum Archaeology posits resurrection of everyone on earth will be available near the advent of post-human machine intelligence using emerging statistical probability and number crunching techniques to achieve massively accurate retrodiction. Robotic resurrection would then follow as science and technology converge.

 

Sounds great, but i can't imagine what it would take to undo eons of entropy.

 

I think its not likely that the information is kept somewhere out there, its dispersed all over the space and perhaps even time..

Exactly. While it might be true that "information cannot be destroyed" in the physical sense, that is not going to help us since much of the information is carried by photons and other elementary particles. As nothing is faster than light, we'll never be able to catch the information that has already flown away. 






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