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Is Technology about to Resurrect the Dead?

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:08 PM


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This is roughly the paper for the 2013 (now) Turing Church workshop. It ideas are confirmed by information physics and new statistics.
Grateful for any challenges / points. I want to get back to A.I, which are my natural waters.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:32 PM

This is roughly the paper for the 2013 (now) Turing Church workshop. It ideas are confirmed by information physics and new statistics. Grateful for any challenges / points. I want to get back to A.I, which are my natural waters.



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Resurrection science. London Futurists

How science is trying to resurrect the dead
  • Micro Map of the past being created.
  • Quantum computers and new maths to calculate detailed histories and memories of everyone dead.
  • Face and body reconstructions a million years old already achieved: mind reconstructions coming.
  • 106 billion people to be resurrected within 40 years.




ABSTRACT


Quantum Archaeology is the controversial science of resurrecting the dead including their memories. It assumes the universe is made of events and the laws that govern them, and seeks to make maps of brain/body states to the instant of death for everyone in history.
Anticipating process technologies due in 20 - 40 years on trends that have held for decades, and what is in research labs, it involves the coming Quantum Archaeology Grid which sets out all known events in mass cross-referencing. The result will be a megamatrix good enough to describe, in order to simulate the past. It awaits coming systems like quantum computers and super-recursive algorithms. Large grids already exist waiting to be merged, including cosmic ones with trillions of moving evolution points. Early quantum computers are already built and expected to achieve required efficiencies about 2022, and super-recursive algorithms are already written.I urge the establishment of a department to explore and research quantum archaeology.


INTRODUCTION


Quantum Archaeology - (QA) was inspired by Russian born Asimov's psychohistory, written after Einstein's 1905 determinist¬¬ denouement of Brownian motion. This reactionary view - that everything is predictable using laws - must include decaying and cremating brains and their heat conversions as we master the quantum world. Little quantum mechanics is needed for quantum archaeology which takes its name from quantum computers expected to do near infinite calculations.
Scientific resurrection was a forgotten idea of the 19th century Russian cosmist movement, chased to oblivion by revolution. Awoken independently after the birth of the world wide web by Frank Tipler's response to Ettinger's cryonics, translations are easier and speculation about information recovery is increasing.+
QA was forged in discussions on Kurzweilai.net & other internet forums, producing howls of protests as death had been thought an irreversible state, presumably having some special properties and the first attempt was kicked off wikipedia as 'original research' and 'not notable'. Forensic scientists are not easily dissuaded and this breaking topic will correct its doubtless many errors as it digs out its competence with coming spectacular forensic archaeology techniques. Accelerating science may make today's lifeless archaeology recoveries seem child-like.
Quantum archaeology isn't just for the superdeterminist. It simply asserts a man is a mixture of events, existing solely by the laws of physics.
It is irrelevant if those laws are classical, relativistic or quantum. What maters is their ability to predict. Man's composite patterns are interchangeable with identical ones. the composites are common to other men and other life forms and reduce to common ones to other chemical and therefore other physical events which may be configured theoretically by deduction and experiment, then constructed..In an interactive system like the universe, things in one state are linked by immutable laws to all other things. QA's conjecture is the whole of any person's past is necessarily deducible with enough cross-referenced calculation done in symbolic maths, hypercomputation, or both. From myriad starting points in spacetime, zillions of inevitable patterns are tested about a history until a correct description map is achieved. The horror was the size of sums which people intuitively dismissed as too big for philosophy, too big for science, and too big to calculate.They are not too big to write down in portions. Inventor of the set theory, Cantor, who died in poverty in an insane asylum, postulated transfinite numbers with aleph orders of infinities. Predictive analytics may suggest a time when he will be revived. Mathematics now calculates infinite complexities - something seen as magic to the layman, using Cantorian set theory as the basis of computing, and describing infinite universes bubbled off infinite cosmic membranes as M-Theory. Data is not random but in discoverable groups and shapes that cross-reference and repeat. Meaning you can make confident retrodictions through time despite few events surviving. The maths is like cryptologic with which Rejewski, successfully reverse-engineered Scherbius' enigma machine using the theory of permutations and groups. He found correct scrambles from 150,000,000,000,000,000,000 combinations, allowing mathematicians to break encrypted messages in wartime. The statistics of complex systems through time can draw on work in dynamics like quantum turbulence.

It is the size of the sums that is dazzling.

This is the mega problem resurrection and all deep archaeology faces. You could, for instance derive all possible peoples by simply permutating all possible events. That vast calculation would include a map for resurrecting everyone who could have lived - then resurrect them all with coming robotics! But quantum archaeology is going to use innovative number elimination rules, natural deduction and proof calculus drawing on algorithmic probability and event histories to reduce these near infinite histories to the correct ones in the linear history that we know. They reduce surprisingly quickly.

There are many objections to quantum archaeology, but these are mainly because it is just beginning and still has many unknowns. Some assumptions will turn out to be false, but the basic premise - that you can assemble the past from few things in the present using the laws of physics - looks true.

Quantum archaeology is important enough to be a separate research field and 'if there weren't many unknowns it wouldn't need to be researched'. I urge institutions to allow PhD students into it. It is not contra science. Every part will be based on what is known. We can calculate what is coming by trending and looking at prototyping as well as what innovative research is being done.

Computational archaeology, semiotics (it is possible to see the whole world as signs and symbols) and other disciplines build increasingly sophisticated maps of events good enough to construct growing parts of the past, and every failure is an opportunity for innovation.

Incremental improvements are likely to produce maps good enough to run simulations past the 5 nanometres thought needed to plot individual brains (quantum levels are generally under 100 nm) - for any time in history. When that happens machine technology small enough for physical resurrection is likely to have arrived, and routine.revivals become a branch of medicine. Accelerating progress must lead generally to resurrection of the dead, or we will have failed to master very small numbers.


But it can also be specifically attempted. Quantum archaeology is drafted like Laplace's demon, as retrodiction science, back-calculating events that must have been from those known in the present, deducing patiently by the laws of physics. Masses of the work can be done in classical physics in which human consciousness seems to reside. However Quantum Archaeology accommodates the quantum theory which modifies classical physics in the world of the very small - just as Relativity modified Newtonian physics for the world of the very big. We are learning to manipulate quanta, and the effects must be unprecedented inventions. In 2010 the first quantum machine was built.¬

The unleashing technology will be fantastic. Things thought impossible will be done routinely and things beyond imagination will be built enabling and accelerating one another. More than a trillion trillion trillion machines each more complex than anything man-made today, will fit inside an atom, and these intelligent invisibles will construct smaller, cleverer machines to achieve even more astonishing science as we head into superstring physics and enter other universes with different laws.

For resurrection of the dead we need not advance too much. Relevant sizes are mostly between one atom and one metre for the body and brain. This, coupled to simulable descriptions of local environments, are everything possible in a human mind. Nothing is irrelevant, nothing is left to chance, and nothing happens by mysterious forces. No man is outside nature, and his most private thoughts are solely products of his determinable biology, environment and the laws of physics. Memory is caused by neuron modification to internal and environmental stimuli. All will be revealed by patient analysis and detailed cross-referencing from myriad starting points in histories preserved in the Records.

Quantum archaeology anticipates fast advances in charting detailed event maps that are faithful and repeatable. Information gaps may be overcome by studying huge numbers of common timelines, filling in the blanks by eliminating the impossible and recording whatever remains as the fact. We are already doing this with present and historical constructions.
The worst case scenario for quantum archaeology is that we plot and resurrect every possible person who has ever lived but have no idea which are the 'real' ones. This is extremely unlikely because the science of probability will eliminate impossible timelines, and it is possible the entire universe may be charted as a moving, reversible system, on computers that already have more variables than all stars and planets combined, as we learn the laws.

"I think that matter must have a separate reality independent of the measurements. That is an electron has spin, location and so forth even when it is not being measured. I like to think that the moon is there even if I am not looking at it." Albert Einstein originator of Relativity.


"All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force... We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter." Max Planck, originator of Quantum Theory.


We should probably side step the fundamentals of quantum explanation in favour of 'what can we do?' 'What can we predict? In the unlikely case the physical universe cant be reversed, at least archaeology can calculate causally and probabilistically what parts of it necessarily were, for there are limits to the size of what is needed, and retrodiction may be so demonstrably accurate as to assert we have mapped the essence of any person including thoughts known only to them.
Size doesn't affect the idea, nor does distance to history, which assumes only that the world operates by laws, we can state enough of them at our size limits, and can back-calculate necessary events down to the relevant scale of human memory. This comes easily to futurists who are used to predictive and statistical inference calculations since Babbage forced the world's ruling elite through the rigours of the Royal Statistical Society, getting to them to throw out unsupported assertions.
Also using axiomatic logic and basic number theory, QA will draft a detailed, expanding four dimensional (moving) graph of history called the Quantum Archaeology Grid, anticipating hypercomputing, synthesis of data banks, and clever, vastly superior ways of manipulating - like super-recursive algorithms (which are expected to out-perform even quantum computers). We will reach 1 exaflop (a quadrillion floating-point calculations per second) of data manipulation on classical supercomputers, passing what is thought to be one human brain capacity in 2018-22, but it's nothing to what's coming.


Mathematics means you dont need brute calculation. Symbolic abstraction computes pretty well anything. Maths is just short cuts. Human memories are generally isometric. Although all neurons are unique they have evolved inevitably, and if you have calculated the environment and the biology like DNA, you are more than half way to describing the dead person. Memory reconstruction is repetition, reaction and environmental permutation, reduced by ascertainable and specific geographical location. The brain itself has only 300 million pattern recognition modules, of 100 neurons per module (How to Create a Mind Ray Kurzweil 2012). Human memory is not random but flows like rivers down the paths of least resistance, obeying the body's hormonal goals to sensory input from given or calculable environments.

Reconstructions might start with a prototype human. Maps would be linked by the laws of physics to maps a moment later. Dynamic and inevitable map trajectories would be plotted. Over them would be imposed other maps from complex databases, personalizing what the person must have been like, at first generally, then in such detail he would be indistinguishable from the real thing. At that point they would be the real thing! Just as RNA copies new cells in your body constantly, a copy of any deceased person would actually be them. All their thoughts, everything that made them them would be present, set down in equations, algorithms and countless sums and therefore backed-up. A reconfigured human being would necessarily hold descriptions in his brain of his tribal environment to help reconfigure others, and these can be simultaneously commenced in the present to describe the past as interaction.
This is living reconstruction. Each piece of the quantum archaeology enables new pieces. But this wont be done at the rate of people on digs or in labs, but on intelligent machines working near light speed and with errors of much less than the one in a million which is today's state of the art in DNA sequencing. Error checking of complex systems is integral to mathematics' architecture and is well advanced.
Zillions of modifications by speeding computers configuring local data in classical and quantum physics would perfect chronicles and representations into finely detailed snapshots from conception to death. At that point a license to resurrect might be granted by a medical council. Then microrobots would begin reconstruction.
Things in local areas like books, or an internet which may be a large interactive book, are information node densities - clustering coefficients affecting other information pathways and other nodes, like heavy stars affecting gravity distribution in a universe. As we master large and quantum gravity, these may weight in so accurately it could be impossible for a single moment to escape statistical denouement. One advances like the climbing spider, one success builds conditions for the next, until the grid is weaved.

This is archaeology rising. Quantum means 'the minimum amount of an entity'. Archaeology: 'the recovery and analysis of human data'. Thus quantum archaeology is the recovery and analysis of the minimum amounts of data needed to describe anything human in history, including human brain cells and even private human events and thoughts, to be plotted as event points on the general quantum archaeology grid.

The points plotted are fixed relatively, but they have pasts and futures, forward and aft, and adjacencies. Together they give moving charts of a man's life and memories. His whole body is not more than 1.8 X 10^27 molecules with its 7 X 10^27 atoms. Although these are vast numbers they are not infinite and size of calculations should be set aside when pondering the viability of quantum archaeology, for it is reasonable to assume maths in the future will get better.

It is easier than it first seems. The bulk of calculation is repetition, and early cosmology techniques enable seed programmes. No seed simulations have resulted in life, but the computing power has not been enough for brute force permutation yet; calculations are increasing as multiples of Moore's Law and the advance of number equations.

Mathematics by arduous minds torturing the edge of abstraction will surely yield to greater intelligence amplification in machines. How fast the big calculators arrive is more than guesswork as constant trajectories have been watched for 50 years, and astonishing leaps have peppered history. By numbers of actioned patents, discoveries are speeding.

QA posits recovery and reconstruction of sufficient data to calculate the details of anyone dead - including their memories - to prepare a map of them - for technologies like micro robots to build to order when those arrive after the 2020's.

Quantum robots are a form of micro robot based on Feynman's idea, by Paul Benioff in 1982. David Deutsch at Oxford pioneered quantum computation to successfully push the science and it is now a major research industry.


Coming technologies like 3D printing seem to have no scale limits and may eventually be used routinely at quantum levels, nor be restricted to three dimensions. Non-living events, aeons past, and people who are events called 'living', are expected to be resurrected to full functionality, and general ones (of genres) have already been achieved. It is thought we will be able to resurrect a non-specific tribe of Neanderthals since completing their DNA in 2012. This is not yet a specific brain but it is easier to see that this may become possible as archaeology unearths the past by probability and causation to levels that seemed impossible one generation of 20 years ago.


Given enough machine complexity, future people may find simulating this universe is easy on a personal computer- including all its peoples to date. Despite our egos screaming otherwise, these resurrectees must be indistinguishable from the real thing under Ettinger's maxims of identity. Once the quantum archaeological grid is drawn, any number of a specific dead person could be manufactured, a complete simulation of their consciousness from conception to death written down or run as a computer program, and would be demonstrably authentic at the point of revival. There are huge and growing record bases that can help, some reaching back millions of years.


As we reconstruct given histories they provide a platform to go back further, since each human mind is a library.


The processing power is already here for the surface work, the mathematics already in place, but sufficient technology not expected for 20-40 years. That is a wide time-frame in accelerating technology. The problems of resurrecting over 106 billion dead people since 50,000 B.C.E. into the modern world may look ridiculous, but in a few decades what is possible will have multiplied by many factors. As to housing, the universe is full of space, and dimension distortion in your own apartment may come. Some people say they dont want to be resurrected but this is the Lazarus Long Delusion explained later.


When people cite possible problems after resurrecting, the essential idea has been understood and scientists should begin the work.

We are attempting to label all things manufactured by men as the Internet of Things which is slowly covering the globe. Bar codes are being put on items by description, and those descriptions may become specific enough to re-engineer any of them - including moving ones as 3D printers move into the home and connect to the internet. Things are progressively built by machine systems planning and designing them; which forces innovative mathematics and startlingly good model-driven software. At some stage voice commands to a portable device will be enough for most things to be assembled in front of you at speed, and objects once of great value will become disposable and recyclable. The wave may bring excellence enough in high technology for the manipulation of quantum archaeological data. Demand may get program makers to have ancient artifacts and people available to download as programs to your home assembler, subject only to payment and legality. If this seems science fantasy, its precursors are already being used and computing power is the main thing holding it back.

This paper highlights the accelerating progress of technologies and sciences, not only in archaeology and reconstructing the past, but generally, with advances like self-driving cars, printed body parts, quantum teleportation (transporting over distance, now done routinely) and invisibility cloaks.


It looks at the implications of quantum archaeology, the three main objections to it, and offers defeats. They objections are briefly:


1. Information is irrecoverably lost or there's too much of it to make sense:
- defeat: - archaeology recovers information and by accelerating methods. QA is not attempting infinite recovery, but between the atom and the body, generally. One quantum computer is expected do more than all classical computers combined. All possible deceased's memories could be calculated initially, and QA will reduce these to the few then the one by probability and causation. Ettinger (cryonically suspended) nearing ninety thought there might be a Law of Conservation of Information and nothing is lost in the universe, though his search hadn't found it. Leonard Susskind, a string theory pioneer, has stated "information is incapable of being destroyed - that the most fundamental law of physics I know". Stephen Hawking has conceded the maxim although he uses multiverse theory.^^^
2. Entropy says the universe is not reversible therefore no local part of the universe is reversible. When brains decay, part of their descriptions are lost as thermodynamic heat and there is no known way of retracing it.
- defeat - M Theory implies other universes: energy for reversal can be created or siphoned from the multiverse; local parts may therefore be reconfigurable because there will be enough energy to do it. The entire universe is debated as a simulation. If so, the universe is logically reversible for the burgeoning numbers of events in the present all trace to similar histories in the past: they are like branches of trees all tracing to common trunks. They are not unit events but classes of reversible laws with limits.
Further QA isn't relying on total information reconstruction from surviving fragments but the construction of the quantum archaeology grid which sources events before, after and adjacent to a given person's timeline and works by logically deduced reconfigurations. It isn't seeking the actual particle that made the deceased's brain, but multi-time pathways that made those particular brains inevitable.
3. Quantum Theory proves Cause & Effect are obsolete so we'll never know the past.*
- defeat - The world is causal and Einstein was right. The fact a brilliant probability science is giving astoundingly good predictions is a triumph for probability maths not a refutation of determinism, which the Many-worlds interpretation¬¬ reinstates, dismissing probability cloud observer collapses. Even by probability alone, closed quantum systems are demonstrated to be predictable and retrodictable.
There is enough material to make quantum archaeology a separate research area and the pay-off is high. Any strong university that has social sciences, sciences and philosophy could attempt it.


As the quantum realm has yet to be thrashed out, this paper will argue the limits of science: that deceased Man is built by and therefore retrievable by its absolute laws: no-one and nothing may exist outside them. It will also attempt to argue that extropian resurrection is a greater more powerful philosophy, than the brute will of the Nietzschean and Marxist schools - both myopic following of Darwin - and QA must inevitably lead to recursive civilization on rising Kardashevian scales.

Heidegger's assertion 'death must be accepted in order to be free.' is refuted by the transhumanist school. Death never was. Death is an illusion. There is no strict freedom since everything is bound by law. Higher degrees of mobility evolve as responses to the environment and the compatibility argument ends the conflict between free will and determinism: they are different perspectives on a system that owns itself. The quantum world may yield a wider explanation of surely wondrous complex causality but is in its infancy, and causality is on detention there! Human intelligence, as memory modification at ion speed, hasn't yet (2013) been passed by artificial general systems good enough to fool a blind man doing Turing's imitation game.


Massive life extension looks viable and resurrection theory is running after it. The mathematics and technologies needed are covalent. Cryonics is presently the best way of preserving organic data of the brain, and it would be foolish indeed not to use it, but comprehensive scanning technologies are sure to emerge eg from sonics, electromagnetics and internal mapping by nanobots. They will not be needed if QA is correct but it is futurist and unproven until its researched.


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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:46 PM

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For the poet-artist, death seems a joke by Nature trying to cage the truth of the imagination, since as a rule what can be imagined in detail can be built by engineers. Marvin Minsky's mindless agents forming the society of mind are absolutely determined by science laws in what they must and cannot do: with sufficient understanding and computing their lives and histories may be absolutely retrodictable.

If we are to 'extract the surrender of all supernaturalism and fixed dogma by superior perspicacity,' futurists must stir the core humanity that objectivism mechanized out of the Industrial Revolution. QA is a snowball that has begun rolling, its argument annealed with visionary technology and invention. In the words of Victor Hugo, nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come.The conflict between Relativity and Quantum Theory is absurd: "Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong." Ayn Rand.

Futurist extropian transhumanism is the foresighted raising a shield against aging, and cracking the long-brimming dam of the tomb.

Man is a being that has never died. Man is a being that never dies. Man is incapable of death. Man owns his future. The laws of science cannot be broken. You have been formed by eternity. You will always be. The dead will rise. We all will rise. We will rise in groups and we will rise forever. Resurrection is certain. Immortality is certain. A man is intrinsically precious. Your cause is as valid as the universe. You, yourself, are a law of universe.
With such bold maxims, questions about suffering and life's meaning obliterate. Suffering is not only going to end, it is going to be reversed, because the human past is not fixed at death - as will be shown in another paper. Life's meaning is faulty questioning because immortality is a basic state of the world. Transhuman Man is meaning as reaction viewed after the event, and His existence is the base state of the Multiverse. Extropian is the resurrecting hero at war with death and chaos.
Hopefully by the end of this paper it will be thought possible no man has irrecoverably died, individual human life is not philosophically pointless, private thoughts and actions are viewable from the future - so a moral duty is pragmatic - and the awful price of history was worth it. What is coming will shortly be driven solely by the imagination as machines take over labor, experiment and discovery. Man will be relatively free from drudgery as depth in philosophy as machinery - brings weak into strong and old into equality. Recursive continuance will keep us away from 'the greatness which does not bow before children '(Gibran) where what is possible is everything that can be thought of. Resurrection must become another branch of medicine, a civil and human right.

As this paper is read, the doubts will repeat that we can do the size of calculations necessary.

They are certainly vaster than anything mankind has seen. But so are the coming machines. We already have infinity maths. So long as we avoid catastrophes it is surely certain - sooner or later - we will achieve quantum archaeology. The danger is we think it doesn't matter if people die or suffer for a higher cause if that higher cause resurrects and reverses, not just compensates, suffering.

We will freeze our dead. We will bury our dead. We will carry our grief - then we will resurrect the dead.
Where Prometheus stole fire from the gods, Extropian ripped existential meaning from technology and made the technology think back to him. The gnomes of this renaissance have begun a world wide web of explosive technical creativity. Unexpected and profoundly difficult ones must lie ahead in shortening time-steps with high existential risks. People born today wont need to die, and people dying today will resurrect tomorrow. In a better, kinder world, scramble for abundant power would be pointless.
We now draw with ourselves an arrow through the Singularity. Instead of aim and unreachable star, we exist by trajectory and impetus. Self-generation and degrees of freedom are everything. We have no reified point ahead, only launch. We the subject, are ourselves the absolute inside an eternal multiverse which is as far as mankind has seen.

Expansion, love of life, abolition of limit - including every kind of death, unite us** and if this is mad, it is also brave because it demands constant self-belief, constant rechecking of scientific assumptions, deleting impossibles, zealously keeping improbables. Man is his own quest for the absolute and there are infinite possibilities. Courage and cooperation have brought homo sapiens sapiens to the top of the mountain whopping every meso species on earth that has come at him. Now Man is stalking death.

In the naked desert of machine logic the resurrecting power of imagination as technology that turned Victorian archaeologists Petrie and Carter into legends will make heros spring back to life and actual immortality. Definitions of dead and unborn will cease to exist. But the clamor for the old to guide us is still desperate. 'Youth could win, but had not learned to keep, and was pitiably weak against age.' (T.E. Lawrence). Science is climbing, gasping, to another high plateau, with a formula for resurrection, and the message that the dead are not permanently dead, their sacrifices not personally futile, their individual histories just beginning, and the opening future is far beyond the dreams of dangerous men. It looks unbelievable. Until you study it.

But Man is chained to fear of death until the first resurrections come, and Quantum Archaeology, fragile and embryonic, is regarded as heresy - or worse - is unknown. It is unthought of by nature: fearless technology bringing recursive civilization. It is revolution, with no obvious precedent and in contravention of biology.
The dead will rise. Man is the warden of the world. Man is the womb of intelligence. 'Man is the measure of all things'. Man is heroic will rising from the scattered dusts. All is not vanity and vexation of spirit, but architecture, assembly, form and reach.
In the ascendant of time, Man calls on the wizardry of science draws his aspects with obsessive detail to build a species natal chart and plot the meticulous histories, piecing together smallest relevant parts with near mystical synastry, to regale His pasts - collective and individual.


For the archaeologist - who does occasionally look forward - homo sapiens sapiens is passing to homo sapiens jugis: wise man continuing.


Notes:


+ John Archibald Wheeler talked of using a stone retrieved from Plato's Academy being put into a machine and its acoustic memory being peeled back to reveal Plato talking to Aristotle. Jack Donovan a toy dealer at Nottinghill, London used to speculate that such a device was buildable after studying sound machines for decades.* Quantum Theory a serious objection to Quantum Archaeology. If the quantum world is random, then nothing is predictable in it. However we are already making successful probabilistic predictions in the quantum world, and systems have already been built achieving reliable results. It is easy to see how people think information could be lost into such a world but it's mysteries will surely fall to denouement as its laws are recorded. The moment prediction is viable we should attempt retrodiction, - both are available in closed quantum systems. The best position may be to just describe what is useful in the quantum and to delay explanations.

^ eg 1., The Pauli Exclusion Principle states no identical fermions may occupy the same quantum state at once.

eg 2., The Principle of Interchangeability states identical particles are absolutely interchangable, and this is likely to apply to many things in the quantum world.

¬ http://article.wn.co...ith_Seahawks_2/.


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Quote 1: "We shouldn't get freaked about having to do all the reconstruction at once. People think 'resurrecting someone from 1,000 years ago ? No way- toooo complex' but they could concede we MIGHT be able to reconstruct someone's DNA from then using probabilities. From the DNA you can map out a clone...an identical body. Now you look for how the brain grew through their life to the moment of death. That can only be two ways...the DNA and the environment variables.At that point people say well OK you've got copies of them with no memories.But here's where archaeology comes into its own. People's brains are reactants to their world...only that. Most of the variables in that world are going to be the landscape and the other people/lifeforms....and you are already computer-generating all the other people from their DNA. The other records and those you configure like the geological record, the archaeological record, the biological record, the climate record etc will all synthesize with incredible definition. If anyone existed at pretty much anytime in human history they're going to show up in these cross-referenced mappings - warts and all. People wrongly think that memories are mystical - somehow outside the range of possible archaeological reconstruction, but they're physical entities same as bones ...each is inevitable given the right variables. Note we're not just looking at the decayed brain and trying to get back the information dissolved as radiant heat, but we're coming at reassembly loads of different ways which facilitate each other on a quantum archaeology grid. I dont know how small we'll get, but my hunch is into the quantum world, even though the 'you' stuff of the body/brain is between 5 nanometres and a one metre body. Dont get hung up on Quantum Theory because most of the archaeology wont refer to it...we aren't chasing subatomic particles - nor trying to find the actual bit that's disintegrated, but what must have been, by relating spacetime coordinates to each other in a meso world. It's like joining up the dots or doing jigsaws, only certain bits will fit when juxtaposed, but on a mind-blowingly massive scale "

Quote 2 :"The 2 big issues:
1) Our ego's dont get all people are reconfigurable composites ;
2) Size of calculations needed is so massive people dont think when they could be done with future computers, they imagine in time present."


Quote 3: "We're taking everyone with us, the dying, the sick, the lost, the helpless. We're not leaving anyone behind. We're taking the dead with us, and that's what makes quantum archaeology a revolution. It doesn't matter if you're dead and forgotten a million years ago, we're coming back for you and making sure you get the benefits of technology and immortality....you dont have to believe it you can see it in the work archaeologists are already doing. Faces not seen for thousands and more years are already being reassembled. As technology speeds we'll do the brains - everyone's - it's breathtaking what's happening in maths & science... "

¬¬ See also The Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics (wiki) that resolves the central paradoxes and is absolutely a determinist theory of Cause and Effect in the quantum realm, rejecting the weirdness of the observer effect in favour of quantum decoherence, a splitting of worlds.


""Many Worlds Interpretaion removes the observer-dependent role in the quantum measurement process by replacing wavefunction collapse with quantum decoherence. Since the role of the observer lies at the heart of most if not all "quantum paradoxes," this automatically resolves a number of problems; see for example Schrödinger's cat thought-experiment, the EPR paradox, von Neumann's "boundary problem" and even wave-particle duality. Quantum cosmology also becomes intelligible, since there is no need anymore for an observer outside of the universe.
** see Extropian Principles http://www.maxmore.com/extprn3.htm

^^^ Leonard Susskind on The World As Hologram video

Edited by caliban, 05 January 2013 - 12:22 AM.
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