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#31 Turnbuckle

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 04:23 PM

 

(and frankly, the story reminds me of another outlandish tale where some man claimed she was stung by a bee and then turned into a woman.  Spontaneously.  No surgery or hormone therapy resorted to.  Which is obviously not possible.)

 

 

 

Don't be too quick to dismiss what might seem an outlandish story, but under more examination is actually quite reasonable. That person apparently had Klinefelter's syndrome (XXY), and the bee sting shifted his hormonal balance and reinforced a preexisting gender identity issue that ultimately led to sexual reassignment surgery.

 

So while Klinefelter's syndrome is rare (.1-.2% of males), it might explain some of the poster's extreme reaction to saw palmetto, but Werner syndrome fits them better. And if it's the latter, saw palmetto may have nothing to do with it. 

 

Vitamin C has been found to be a good treatment in a mouse model of Werner syndrome.

 


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The present study is the first to demonstrate that treatment of a mouse model phenocopying many aspects of the human WS with vitamin C reverses most of the phenotypes associated with this syndrome. We also show that such Wrn-mutant mice exhibit a severe premature defenestration of their liver sinusoidal endothelial cells, a phenotype usually associated with old age in different animal models (18). Long-term (since weaning) and short-term (8 wk) treatments of vitamin C reversed the liver sinusoidal endothelial defenestration phenotype. Notably, the major upstream regulator of lipid metabolism PPARα was increased by both long-and short-term treatments. Finally, vitamin C (or ascorbate) increased the mean life span of our Wrn mutant mice. In contrast, vitamin C had no beneficial effect on the health of WT animals. Our results suggest that long-term vitamin C supplementation could have beneficial effects for patients with WS.

 

 

 

 


Edited by Turnbuckle, 21 September 2014 - 05:04 PM.


#32 i Impulse

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 02:49 AM

Hi Turnbuckle,

Kleinfelter's Syndrome individuals are incapable of having children without a great deal of effort.  This article is one of the same ones I've seen before on this individual.  This is a person who simply was ashamed of her gender and took steps to solve it.  Several of the clues there are that they had estrogen therapy of some sort --testosterone drops don't cause breast enlargement and skin softening without some other supplementation, not at the age of 40.  And the other is that she had two children while still a man.  That is not possible without heavy intervention in all known cases.  Even those that have sperm in the testes need certain help.

 

I think it's actually rather sad that the changes had to be framed in this fashion, rather than just opening up with the wife and telling her that you think you need to try the changes.  Gender stereotyping is a ridiculous cultural artifact. 


Edited by i Impulse, 22 September 2014 - 02:51 AM.

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#33 sp2000

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 02:37 AM

Hi Guys

I am suffering from Saw palmetto effects for a long time. I have muscle loss  and bon pain, shrunken testicles and 100% impotence. I have very strong brain fog and fatigue too. Most of the time I feel like I have flu but I don't have flu.

What you guys think is it brain damage or testicular damage. any idea?



#34 ViaSwiss

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 11:16 AM

The National Insititue of Health (NIH) finally recognized this syndrome...They call it "Adverse affects to 5ar inhibitors" and also "post finasteride syndrome".

(sorry I cant post links) Google "nih 5ar adverse events"

 

The following websites have more info on it..

pfsfoundation dot org

propeciahelp dot com

solvepfs dont com



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#35 S Sapu

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 05:25 PM

I took saw palmetto and it destroyed my life too. Here is how I recovered after catastrophic 2 years.

 

Ashwaghanda is a very safe supplement. 1500mg a day is a good dose. Authentic Shilajit, hard to find, is a good complement for Ashwaghanda when taken together. You should cycle these supplements few months ON and month OFF and restart the cycle. You can also try other natural safe methods to increase your DHT like sprinting, 24 hour water only fasting twice a week, not eating at night, keeping a very lean body with minimal fat (this is crucial for DHT production), drinking coffee everyday, eating magnesium rich foods, eating few eggs, prunes, broccoli, weight lifting few times a week, cardio on other days, stopping all tea, especially green tea, stopping alcohol etc. Before you take a supplement or food a normal person would not take, research online extensively to see if its a DHT blocking food or not and avoid them. There are foods like mangoes if you keep eating everyday will block your DHT. Also spread the word online in forums, articles, videos that blocking DHT want help baldness. So another person would not fall to the same trap we did. Once you cure yourself, let others know as well so they can recover their life from this mess. Also, be sure to SHAVE THAT d.... head so you can gain back your confidence. Once you let go of the hair, it will increase you confidence which will in turn increase DHT and your performance when you need it. Beauty is for women and not men. Dont make the same mistake again







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