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[MacD]

Hello all,

I am a new member, you can see my introduction in the introduction section (cant post links yet). I have been reading these forum boards for a while now, and i get the general gist of what conversation have taken place.

I am going to be experiementing with C60oo, on myself, very shortly. It is the 45 mg of 99.95% pure Buckminsterfullerene C60 dissolved in 50 ml extra virgin olive oil, stirred for two weeks, centrifuged for one hour at 5000 g and filtered through a 0.22 μm microfilter, type which i have acquired, not made myself.


I currently supplement my food intake (which is mostly fish/meat/fruit) with 1 x multivitamin pill daily and 3 x pil food supplements (promotes healthy hair). I also regularly exercise and lift weights. (You can see more about me on my introduction post.)


I am here for methodical and logical preparation advice, and also to take requests from anybody about how to record changes i experience, which i will update in this post



So.....does anybody have any advice or requests about how they would like to see data or recorded information about my progress with c60oo?

Edited by MacD, 26 April 2013 - 12:55 PM.

[Turnbuckle]

It would be interesting to measure your hearing to see if it improves. I noticed an improvement at high frequencies, but unfortunately I didn't measure it beforehand. Here's a site where you can measure it yourself--

http://www.audiochec...staudiogram.php

[YOLF]

Good idea Turnbuckle! We should definitely collect as much info as possible on these trials.

[MacD]

Hi Turnbuckle, hi Cryo.

That does seem like a good test to keep record of.

Perhaps some eyesight tests or reaction time tests might be useful too?

Could you recommend any good testing methods for these?

Edited by MacD, 27 April 2013 - 08:19 AM.

[MacD]

I will be presenting data and photos for (so far) the following things -


Head Hair - Colour/Thinning Areas (note to self - include before and after photos for greying and thinning areas)
Facial Hair - Colour/Bald Spot (include before and after photos of life long bald spot)
Plaque - Build up of plaque at bottom front row of teeth
Scars - Small scar on left hand (since age of 15), miniscule scar on left wrist (i had a growth there about 10 years ago which i actually sliced off myself and left a mark) (include before/after photos)
Verucas - I have two (albeit nearly healed) varuca spots on the soles of my left foot (include before/after photos) (note - i might apply some c60oo directly to these, since they are mostly not exposed to direct light sources. I have read c60oo can have negative results when used as a skin cream when it is photo excited. Can anyone confirm this?)
Hearing - Using Turnbuckles suggestion
Eyesight - I want to test this, but i need advice about how best to do this (note, i had laser eye corrective surgery approx 8 years ago)
Reaction Times - I want to test this, but i need advice about how best to do this
Fitness - This will be mostly subjective, but in my gym times i will try to record heart rates for before and after a mile run and note them here


Also will be recording a log of activity eg date/times of dosage, amount, and expressing subjective feelings, taking into consideration placebo effects.



Can anyone recomend any other tests i can perform and record by stats or photos?

Edited by MacD, 27 April 2013 - 10:46 AM.

[Mind]

I would suggest a blood test. Anything would do. There are cheap ones, expensive ones, ones geared to measure aging biomarkers, etc...

[niner]

Fitness - This will be mostly subjective, but in my gym times i will try to record heart rates for before and after a mile run and note them here

This is where you will probably see a result. Try to get both times and heart rates over a number of runs prior to starting c60. If you haven't been running much, you could see a training effect, so you want to be at a steady state in your aerobic fitness when you start the c60. You might also want to get your heart rate at short intervals after you stop, to see how soon it returns to baseline. I'm not sure what the best interval would be- if you're wearing a monitor, then it would be easy to get it every 30 seconds, otherwise, maybe at one and two minutes?

[Iporuru]

Hi Turnbuckle, hi Cryo.

That does seem like a good test to keep record of.

Perhaps some eyesight tests or reaction time tests might be useful too?

Could you recommend any good testing methods for these?

There is a reaction time test at: http://www.humanbenc...ntime/index.php

[MacD]

Just an update.

I have recorded alot of stats and pictures to be used as a baseline. (thanks for the above comments, and hi to everyone here)

I am waiting for a blood pressure and blood test kit to arrive (still waiting for my C60oo too), then i will publish these here.

From that point on, i will keep a daily log of doses and subjective comments about how i feel, and then after a set period of time intervals (probably every 2 weeks, perhaps every 4 weeks) record new stats and pictures under identical conditions (or as close as i can) to see if there are any differences.

Edited by MacD, 28 April 2013 - 03:37 PM.

[stephen_b]

Nice thoroughness.

[MacD]

--BASELINE STATS--

C60oo Dosage : 3mg Every Monday / Wednesday / Friday (5:00pm)

Sex : Male
Age : 34
Height : 6 Foot 1 inch
Weight : 87 KG
Smoker : Not presently (although i have done occasionaly in the past @ ~2-5 per month)
Alcohol Drinker : Infrequent (average 3-5 pints of lager per month, occassional port drinker, 1-3 bottles per year)

Blood Pressure : (Did not measure as a baseline, my c60oo arrived before my testing kit and i couldnt wait )
Glucose Levels : 6.7 mmol/L (performed at 4:30 pm, just after a bowl of porridge)



--BASELINE DIET--

Diet for this testing period (this will be consistent but with minor variations from day to day) :
Mon - Fri :
Breakfast : Porridge or Fruit and Fibre, both made with skimmed milk, Coffee or Tea, Multivitamin, Pil Food Suppplement (this will stop at some stage, i will notify when)
Morning Snack : Banana, Apple
Lunch : Can of Tuna or Salmon salad (cottage cheese, lettuce, spring onion, cucumber, celery), 2 x Plums, Tea or Coffee
Midday Snack : Large Orange, Tea or Coffee, (sometimes porridge or fruit and fibre with skimmed milk)
Dinner : Cod in breadcrumbs, Chicken Breast (sometimes with skin), cuts of parsnip, lettuce
PM snack : Orange with natural yoghurt (sometimes porridge or fruit and fibre with skimmed milk)

Occasional Treats : Biscuits and/or crisps

Sat/Sun :
Generally eat whatever i like, but normally have roast dinners, snacks, very occassionally a pizza/chinese/mcdonalds/kfc. I dont go over the top with snacks, but it is not as strict as the weekdays.



--BASELINE FITNESS (AND PLAQUE ON TEETH)--


1 Mile Run - (Always performed as my first gym exercise) - Running was performed at 9mph with a few seconds of ramp up time

Finish Time = 6 minutes 44 seconds

BPM before running = 100 BPM
BPM after running = 169 BPM
(at 1 mile i stopped, the machine gave me 5 seconds rest, then measured my BPM over 10 seconds, the result is the measurement after 15 seconds)
Chest / breathing - My chest felt tight, and my breathing was heavy
Perspiration - Low (this is "normal" for me)


Plaque - Not going to take a picture, but i have a small amount on bottom of teeth. My brushing habits are toothpaste and mouthwash once every morning, which wont change.



--BASELINE HEARING, EYESIGHT, IQ TEST, MEMORY TEST, REACTION TIMES--

Hearing - http://www.audiochec...staudiogram.php
(Thanks Turnbuckle)
PC VOlume = 90
Result =
125 hz = 0 dBHL
250 hz = 20 dBHL
500 hz = 20 dBHL
1k hz = 10 dBHL
2k hz = 10 dBHL
4k hz = 10 dBHL
8k hz = 10 dBHL


Eyesight - http://www.visionexp...ne-sight-check/
Comment - Normally i have close to 20/20 vision after having corrective surgery (previously i was short sighted -2.5 right eye and -2.75 with Astigmatism in the left eye). Sometimes eyesight goes blurry, mostly at night time.
This isnt a great eyesight test, but it gives me some indication of a baseline.
Result -
My eyesight is 20% above average


IQ Test - http://www.iqtest.com/
Result =
Thank you for your interest in the test at IQTest.com.
Your general IQ score is: 140


Memory - http://www.memtrax.com/en/
Comment - Because i scored so high, there is not much room for improvement, it gives some kind of baseline anyway.
Result =
Memory screening results - Test taken on: 04/28/2013
Memory score : 96 %
Validity score : 100 % - The test result is valid.
Number Response time
Items recognized 24 / 25 764 ms
Items incorrectly marked 0 / 25 0 ms

Good. Your short-term memory is normal.



Reaction Time - http://www.humanbenc...ntime/index.php
(Thanks Iporuru)
Performed after a cup of coffee
30. your score
sign up or log in just seconds ago 5 206.0ms



--BASELINE OBSERVATIONS WITH PICTURES--

General Fitness - Picture of me (hi) and my upper body. I want to see if i improve muscular definition.





Head Hair - Greying
Thinning and Texture i will make subjective comments on





Facial Hair - This is one days growth. The bald spot has been there since it started growing, ~18 years ago. If something grows there, i will attribute this entirely to C60oo





Scars - Hand, has been there since i was 15. Wrist mark since age 26ish. May apply c60oo directly, will notify when. If either of these appear two disapear, this will no doubt be due to c60oo.







Verucas - Had 2 of these ugly f**kers for about 2 years now. If they disapear in the next few weeks / months, undoubtedbly due to c60oo
(I have the pictures, but decided not to upload these, because, well ye, varucas......)


Skin - I will make comments on - elasticity, Moles (pictures), sunburn test, oilyness






Well, my first dose was 1st May 2013, 5:00pm.


Let's see what happens !

Edited by MacD, 01 May 2013 - 04:36 PM.

[Mind]

Awesome! Thanks so much for sharing. I wish you success.

[MacD]

Thanks Mind.

I will be amazed if the small scars i have really do disapear and although i am skeptical, it is interesting and exciting to record changes that happen.

If any do actually occur, maybe an expert here will find the data useful and make something positive out of it.

In a few weeks time i will re-perform these tests for the first comparison.

Edited by MacD, 01 May 2013 - 09:49 PM.

[niner]

Well, my first dose was 1st May 2013, 5:00pm.

How much did you take?

[MacD]

Well, my first dose was 1st May 2013, 5:00pm.

How much did you take?

3mg (2 full pipette measures)This was about 6-7 hours ago now. Hard to say if i feel any different or whether placebo is interfering. If anything, i do feel more alert, but this might just be because my mind is purposefully trying to find any changes.

[YOLF]

Thanks Mind.

I will be amazed if the small scars i have really do disapear and although i am skeptical, it is interesting and exciting to record changes that happen.

If any do actually occur, maybe an expert here will find the data useful and make something positive out of it.

In a few weeks time i will re-perform these tests for the first comparison.

Info on the scar claims will be interesting. I have some scars that I have thought went away or that are lessened in appearance at times, but sometimes it's just hard to see them under certain lights. Other times it's not so much a reduction in the scar, but a change in nutrition that makes it less visible without actually helping it heal permanently.

Hmmm... perhaps you should get laser or cryosurgery for the varucas. It would leave a scar to recover and might provide some good data on scar recovery.

[pleb]

Do you have any other long term health issues (probably not at your age) but that's where you may see the most improvement

[MacD]

Do you have any other long term health issues (probably not at your age)set's where you may see the most improvement

Not as far as i know Pleb. I do have 2 elderly relatives with dementia that i am thinking of helping. This of course needs some serious consideration though as they are already prescribed lots of other medication.

I am aware many people here have conditions, some terminal. My heart goes out to each and every person in this category and I hope they all get the results they want from this.

[niner]

I will be amazed if the small scars i have really do disapear and although i am skeptical, it is interesting and exciting to record changes that happen.
If any do actually occur, maybe an expert here will find the data useful and make something positive out of it.
In a few weeks time i will re-perform these tests for the first comparison.

Info on the scar claims will be interesting. I have some scars that I have thought went away or that are lessened in appearance at times, but sometimes it's just hard to see them under certain lights. Other times it's not so much a reduction in the scar, but a change in nutrition that makes it less visible without actually helping it heal permanently.

Hmmm... perhaps you should get laser or cryosurgery for the varucas. It would leave a scar to recover and might provide some good data on scar recovery.

Most scars change gradually over time. In the early phase, you can get gradual changes in coloration as they return to the normal skin tone. Over longer time scales, small scars diminish, probably due to skin remodeling. Keloids are a different case, and unlikely to change on their own. Like MacD, I too would be amazed if c60 significantly alters the normal processes. I suspect that reports of scar healing were due to the normal processes. We tend to forget about scars and not check them, so after taking c60 for a while, it would be easy to remember that you had a scar, look for it, and find that it was different than you remembered it.

Varuca is another name for a wart, right? If so, the best treatment is salicylic acid or a mixture of salicylic and lactic acids. You should really saturate the wart; don't pussyfoot around- use as much as you can get on the wart without getting it on the surrounding healthy tissue. Do this daily, preferably after bathing or soaking the wart. Peel away the top layers of tissue as it gets loose, but wear gloves because the wart is contagious. If you aren't careful, you can spread the infection. Cryotherapy can work, but it often takes multiple treatments.

[YOLF]

Speaking of warts, I had one on my hand over a decade ago and was told by the first doc I saw about it that I should "wait it out" cuz it might eventually go away. What a ridiculous way of thinking... UK has universal healthcare right? I would definitely get it removed asap. Don't waste any time and find a doc with a C02 laser and just get closure that it got burned away and no one else got it. Otherwise it may come back to you. It really doesn't hurt that much and they can numb it up for you ahead of time if you want.

[pleb]

varuca's are not the same as warts, they are mostly on the sole's of feet and spread and caught in public swimming baths and easily treated with a proprietary ointment from your Doc, or bought over the counter from any chemists just ask the pharmacist,,

Edited by pleb, 02 May 2013 - 06:05 PM.

[tintinet]

Verrucas are a type of wart. Warts come in several flavors: plantar, flat, vulgar (common), etc.. Condyloma is a genital or oral variant. They are all caused by HPV (Human papilloma virus) of one subtype or another.

[niner]

Speaking of warts, I had one on my hand over a decade ago and was told by the first doc I saw about it that I should "wait it out" cuz it might eventually go away. What a ridiculous way of thinking... UK has universal healthcare right? I would definitely get it removed asap. Don't waste any time and find a doc with a C02 laser and just get closure that it got burned away and no one else got it. Otherwise it may come back to you. It really doesn't hurt that much and they can numb it up for you ahead of time if you want.

I'm not familiar with CO2 laser treatment for plantar warts, but I've had both cryosurgery and surgical excision, neither of which worked for me. The hydroxy-acid peeling agents are what did the trick for me, and without scaring. The key is doing it properly, which means using a lot of acid. I'd expect a laser to be something like excision or freezing- what sort of track record does it have? Plantar warts are particularly difficult to get rid of, and you wouldn't want a bad scar on the bottom of your foot.

[YOLF]

IMO laser would be the best if the doc is thorough and laser happy. It never came back. I can't imagine much surviving being vaporized. Otherwise, I've read that cryosurgery is supposed to be the best. The CO2 laser is generally a multipurpose unit also used to remove scars, tattoos, and make skin look younger IIRC. I imagine you would have to see a dermatologist to be exposed to one. I guess things are different in practice though. The main purpose of using a laser to dig a hole into the wart would be to ensure a scarry removal to test for scar healing.

[MacD]

Can anyone see a problem or benefit with taking C60 and the following -

Ingredients

DL-Methionine, Capsule Shell (Gelatin, colours: titanium dioxide, red ponceau, ferric oxide), L-Cysine, Enzyme-hydrolysed Lactalbumin, Pantothenic Acid (as Calcium Pantothenate), Colloidal Silicon Dioxide, Millet Extract 4%, Vitamin B6 (as Pyridoxine Hydrochloride), Vitamin E (as dl-a-tocopheryl acetate prep), Flavouring Vanillin, Riboflavin (as Riboflavin Sodium Phosphate), Biotin.


These are the ingredients for - http://www.amazon.co...031&s=drugstore

that i am taking.


I dont know whether it is my shampoo/conditioner combination, but i am sure my head hair seems better quality.


I have had 2 x doses of 3mg so far, other things i am keeping an eye on -

My skin seems a shade darker.
My general alertness seems a bit more profound.
I have had two very busy days at work that would normally stress me out. I am not stressed at all. (this is definately different).
Slightly more aggressive.
My depth of vision seems slightly more "acute".
The skin around my knuckles is slightly sore and cracked.


I am off to the gym now, i havnt trained at all since i posted my last mile run. This will be a good test.

[YOLF]

The immediate improvement might just be the olive oil if one looks at it conservatively. Otherwise it may be better synthesis of oils in the scalp. Other than that, the only one I haven't heard so far is "knuckles being slightly sore and cracked." You might want to try a supplement with hyaluranic acid or MSM.

[MacD]

Ye it could be Cryo, i definately feel different though. Very chilled and relaxed.

Anyway, just got back from the gym. My mile stats were -

6m 41s
BPM before = 95
BPM after = 159


The BPM is slightly lower than last run.

One noticable difference is my chest feels much tighter, almost to the point of if it gets any tighter it will start to feel uncomfortable. The run was slightly easy, wasnt tired at all. Could be due to the c60, might just be in my head.

Also sweated alot more, but it is also very hot here today too.



I have taken Ephedrine before when weight training, and that has a massive noticable effect. Todays workout with c60 seemed just very slightly similar to that, but not as intense.

Edited by MacD, 03 May 2013 - 07:59 PM.

[MacD]

Rather than make a new thread, ill post this here -

http://www.dtic.mil/.../u2/a273349.pdf

USA Naval Research on dissolution of c60, published 1993. I havnt seen this posted anywhere else, apologies if it has already been mentioned.


Obviously they hadn't discovered the Olive Oil method back then, but I find myself wondering.......Why was the USA Naval Department of Research so interested in finding ways to dissolve c60?

Edited by MacD, 04 May 2013 - 04:58 PM.

[YOLF]

It's been speculated that C60 would make a good countermeasure in the event of a nuclear disaster of any kind. IIRC, the simulations they did on it seemed to make it out to be toxic and that's generally what was thought about it until the C60 study.

More than likely though they were trying to build something with it.

[niner]

but I find myself wondering.......Why was the USA Naval Department of Research so interested in finding ways to dissolve c60?

ONR funds all sorts of basic and applied research. There were a bunch of other funders on this grant besides ONR, like IBM, the NSF, and NASA. I was one of the people on a large ONR grant once- it was for the development of a sophisticated molecular modeling system. I remember when I was talking to the ONR guy about calculating the normal vibrational modes of DNA, he suddenly got very interested, in a way that had "death ray" written all over it. (it never would have worked, but still...)

The results in this writeup are pretty interesting- thanks for posting it.