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[bernard]

Hey there,
I'm looking for some fast acting stack that results in serious confidence boost. Something to use on rare occasions when you need to demonstrate a mighty amount of leadership and alpha-ism. I'm not talking about curing social anxiety and stuff - I'm not socially awkward, I just need something that I can use for nights out or presentations and stuff like that which is not coke. I was wondering if stacking Adderall with a low dose of some benzo would do the trick or they'd cancel each other ? Any Ideas ? Thanks in advance.

P.S.
Please don't suggest Flax seed oil...

[socialpiranha]

yes adderall and clonazepam is a great combination but only and i mean only if you are willing to suffer through the comedown and only use it very rarely...i would also not advise adding alcohol to the mix....

The only other tried and tested one is ghb, and if used in the same way as the above combo could accomplish what your looking for.

I would mention opiates, but other than buprenorphine/naloxone(high enough dose to antagonise bupes' mu agonism) combo i cant in good conscience recommend them. just too easy to get addicted to.

[chemicalambrosia]

"yes adderall and clonazepam is a great combination but only and i mean only if you are willing to suffer through the comedown and only use it very rarely...i would also not advise adding alcohol to the mix...."

Phenibut along with a stimulant(adderall, ephedrine, craze, etc) and also other optional gaba acting substances (taurine or picamillon) also works well. For anything that brings you up like that, you will come down as well. I've only used phenibut a few times and usually with alcohol. I've gotten some pretty bad rebound anxiety the next day or two after using it. It hardly seems worth it if you have brain chemistry that is easily thrown out of whack by these substances. Tread carefully, and note that there is quite a lot of abuse potential for phenibut if you aren't familiar with it. Use it as rarely as possible and keep doses low(like less than a gram).

Edited by chemicalambrosia, 28 June 2013 - 03:29 AM.

[bernard]

yes adderall and clonazepam is a great combination but only and i mean only if you are willing to suffer through the comedown and only use it very rarely...i would also not advise adding alcohol to the mix....

The only other tried and tested one is ghb, and if used in the same way as the above combo could accomplish what your looking for.

I would mention opiates, but other than buprenorphine/naloxone(high enough dose to antagonise bupes' mu agonism) combo i cant in good conscience recommend them. just too easy to get addicted to.

I'm having some problems finding adderall in my country. There's only Ritalin and Dexedrine. I've tried GHB before but it kinda makes me sleepy.

Are you saying that Buprenorphine/Naloxone works better then Adderall/Naloxone ?

[socialpiranha]

I have never tried adderall/naloxone in fact i've never tried adderall at all its not available in canada afaik, dexedrine+clonazepam is what i meant. I Should also mention tribulus terrestris, it is extremely pro alpha male...I have to advise caution with it though and possibly add some sort of depressant to it because last time i used it I robbed a gas station at knife point. Not something i'm proud of and it ruined a few of the best years of my life not to mention traumatized the store clerk....I was as polite as possible about it though and paid the store back and paid my debt to society.

Tribulous is a strange beast, if your mentally stable and don't have any bad ideas your not acting on just cause you dont have the balls to, i would recommend it.

[bernard]

Lol.. Tribulus is probably one of the stupidest herbs on sale. Multiple studies have shown absolutely no increase in Testosterone, Free Testosteron or DHT after even 12 weeks of megadosing. Since I've been into bodybuidling myself I've tried tribulus and I've taken actual testosterone and I can say that tribulus doesn't work at all.

[KoolK3n]

Assuming you have no tolerance:
-Dexedrine 20-30mg or Vyvanse 90-120mg
-Klonopin .5-1mg
-Magnesium Chelated 400mg
-American Ginseng 500-800mg (prevent behavioral sensitization) w/Bioperine 20mg (Increase absorption)
-Valerian Root (during comedown)
-Ubiquinol 500mg
-Xylitol Gum (combat dry mouth)
-Water
-Eat lots of food beforehand

No more than once a month.

Edited by KoolK3n, 28 June 2013 - 07:58 PM.

[Az.]

^ similar to this, but with some modification:

 

-Klono (depends, but I'd say no less than 0.75 mg &, if prescribed/tolerant, up to 2 mg)

-Adderall XR (20-40 mg)

-Adderall IR (10-15 mg)

-Buprop XR/ER (150 mg)

-Aniracetam (800 mg)

-Ubiquinol 

-Mag. taurate, Mag. mind, something with comparable bioactivity (50% DV)

-DHA (1200 mg)

-Inositol (6-10 g)

-Agmatine (200mg)

-L-theanine 

-Vit. E

-A lot of prudence 

 

It's a lot, but it's short of miracle, at least for 1-3 days. Fluids, light exercise in the early evening, and perhaps melatonin (0.5-1 mg) to keep the sleep-cycle as regular as possible.

 

 

 

[Az.]

^ similar to this, but with some modification:

 

-Klono (depends, but I'd say no less than 0.75 mg &, if prescribed/tolerant, up to 2 mg)

-Adderall XR (20-40 mg)

-Adderall IR (10-15 mg)

-Buprop XR/ER (150 mg)

-Aniracetam (800 mg)

-Ubiquinol 

-Mag. taurate, Mag. mind, something with comparable bioactivity (50% DV)

-DHA (1200 mg)

-Inositol (6-10 g)

-Agmatine (200mg)

-L-theanine 

-Vit. E

-A lot of prudence 

 

It's a lot, but it's short of miracle, at least for 1-3 days. Fluids, light exercise in the early evening, and perhaps melatonin (0.5-1 mg) to keep the sleep-cycle as regular as possible.

 

You may find phenylpiracetam + adrafinil as an okay substitute for the adderall, having looked back & noting your difficulty.

 

***Don't stack phenylpiracetam with adderall, though. It's worth mentioning, as that combo begs for substantial neurotoxicity. 

[Area-1255]

^ similar to this, but with some modification:

 

-Klono (depends, but I'd say no less than 0.75 mg &, if prescribed/tolerant, up to 2 mg)

-Adderall XR (20-40 mg)

-Adderall IR (10-15 mg)

-Buprop XR/ER (150 mg)

-Aniracetam (800 mg)

-Ubiquinol 

-Mag. taurate, Mag. mind, something with comparable bioactivity (50% DV)

-DHA (1200 mg)

-Inositol (6-10 g)

-Agmatine (200mg)

-L-theanine 

-Vit. E

-A lot of prudence 

 

It's a lot, but it's short of miracle, at least for 1-3 days. Fluids, light exercise in the early evening, and perhaps melatonin (0.5-1 mg) to keep the sleep-cycle as regular as possible.

 

 

 

 

Agmatine is garbage, the rest of this is alright, but by OP's description - he wants "ALPHA-NESS" not just focus and a stim rush, at which case OP - might wanna look into DHT-prohormones or something to that effect, but the issue is if you are gonna do that - you might as well run a whole month cycle and get ripped while at it.

 

Other than that maybe a GABA transaminase inhibitor and dopamine reuptake inhibitor would be good stack for powerful spontaneity.

Rosmarinic Acid + Flowering Quince extract would do the trick for both GABA and dopamine reuptake.

 

You could probably throw in a NET inhibitor too for increased feelings of sociability and alertness - natural ones would be Kava Kava, Dagga, and Ginkgo.