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NSA Spying: Still think I'm a wack job?

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#1 Luminosity

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 06:56 AM


I've gotten a lot of pushback here from people that think my information on the paranormal, covered up UFO's, and government misdeeds is too far out.

A few months ago would you have believed that the US government had gathered up all of your phone calls, emails and texts and was storing them in a giant complex? Did you think they could listen to you through your own cell phone so you'd have to put it in the refrigerator when you wanted to have a private conversation?

How about now?

Want to know what might be in the news a few months from now? Check out my blog:
http://www.longecity...at-7-commentary

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#2 YOLF

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:57 PM

I was fairly certain it was already being done given the architecture of the internet... I don't believe we have aliens and UFOs though. I know that to be something else.

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 01:10 AM

http://www.sott.net/...usands-of-years

http://www.huffingto..._n_3390295.html

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Canada's former minister of National Defence Paul Hellyer testified at the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure (CHD) last month in Washington D.C. that aliens are living among us and that it is likely at least two of them are working with the U.S. government.

Hellyer, whose beliefs on extraterrestrial life and UFOs are well established, made the statements at the non-governmental hearings chaired by six former U.S. congressmen and aimed at, according to the event's website, doing "what the U.S. Congress had failed to do for forty-five years — [sic] seek out the facts surrounding the most important issue of this or any other time — [sic] evidence pointing toward an extraterrestrial presence engaging the human race."

Hellyer asserted a number of interesting things during his testimony and video of what he said has gone viral (read the full transcript). Here are some of the highlights:

- "At least four species" of alien have been visiting Earth for "thousands of years."

- Some of the aliens hail from the "Zeta Reticuli, the Pleiades, Orion, Andromeda, and Altair star systems" and "may have different agendas."

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#4 YOLF

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 03:05 AM

I'll believe it when I see a space ship or an intelligent other worldly being. Until then... I'll remain skeptical. If they're here, we have a right to know. Especially if they're our alien overlords.

Seriously, wouldn't we have alien actors and celebrities if there were aliens? Why hide the truth of the universe?

Edited by cryonicsculture, 23 July 2013 - 03:24 AM.

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#5 Luminosity

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 03:44 AM

Thanks for your post Zorba990.
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#6 amara bin

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 11:17 AM

Frankly if we have aliens working with planet's governments they must not be that advanced. Homer Simpson would fit the profile better (or these aliens are a bunch of fascists, screw alien life).

And regarding internet spying... (after i hit submit on this post me and my family will probably have probes up our ass, so long Longecity!)

 

Internet is not a single network. Is an integrated system of networks. In order to have information traveling from one network to another it must travel on a protocol called IP. IP sends packets of data in a format that contains both the origin and the destination of the transmission along with the single routing point that is handling the transfer of a packet to another subnet.

Spying implies copy every single packet and use the same system to rebroadcast the information to a different spot.

All packets are always visible within the carrying subnet of the transmission, IP addresses are never encrypted. And believe me, private networks are monitored, with nice statistic software. Large bandwith usage would be detected and analyzed.

 

There might be possibly large scale spying on the large transmission US/EU carriers but i don't see how it would be possible to track, say, Russian Government transmissions using a router housed in the Kremlin's basement to hear Putin's IP calls without rusky state Hackers to see it and substitute the content with Benny Hills funny videos.

 

I am relatively not surprised of what is happening in Georgia.I think they now know they are not spied.

 

Another thing that doubts me is the overhead transmission...i don't know if we can really handle it.

 

Of all plot theories the only one that convinces me is that we never went to the moon: there is more technology now in a washing machine that in the Apollo lander altogether. Really...why we don't go there...not even once, just to say hi?

 

I think a lot of theories relies in the assumption that we are limitless. That we have unlimited supplies of intelligence and money and that we can do anything with it, but in my opinion is more the result of all that scify literature we have made in the last century (i can't imagine what Bradbury or Asimov would write about nowadays) and the psychological impact 2 world wars and the cold war left on us.

 

I guess reality is that we are getting low on the art of "Make it or fake it", Greece is not that far and until we don't have another big technological breakthrough our current course leads to https://www.youtube....h?v=BBvIweCIgwk 

 

​PS: do they use Vaseline for those probes?



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Posted 01 May 2014 - 11:32 AM

PS: for a more scientific explanation:
https://www.youtube....h?v=icmRCixQrx8

https://www.youtube....h?v=U8rhIZJAdd0

 

(Who's knocking at my door at 4:30 am?!!)



#8 YOLF

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:59 AM

The ISPs have all received  money from the government since 2004ish, possibly prior to essentially install "data catchers" I forget the actual name for it, but it sits on the path that the data is already being transmitted on. The government money was partially responsible for HSI access popping up in less profitable areas. It's no secret either. It was part of the patriot act. Lots of other companies were running this stuff well in advance during the dialup years. It wasn't until high speed internet access that they had to push a bill to get smaller providers to provide the government with the service. Bigger companies were probably selling the info to Unlce Sam from day 1. Other countries use the same stuff for law enforcement purposes... It's believable, esp. in the US. It's possible that foreign military bases are the nexus for the spy computers overseas. 



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:17 AM

Pretty easy to get open source encryption software and VPNs and the issues go away. Thing is no one gives a sh1t.!!


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:25 PM

Pretty easy to get open source encryption software and VPNs and the issues go away. Thing is no one gives a sh1t.!!

 

 

No, the issues won't go away for a long time for most people. The NSA has years of our phone conversations stored up, and if someone needs to be knocked down, they can search those conversations for what they need. 


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#11 Lobotomy

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 02:44 AM

I knew about this bullshit in 2008, and it would be foolish to assume the government isn't spying on you anyway. It's all an exercise of control, and you'd be crazy to think that that's not all the government wants in the end.

 

Now, as for UFOs and 9/11 conspiracies, show me proof and I'll consider it.


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#12 amara bin

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 07:30 PM

Ok...look...i have been working at <company in Milpitas, Ca>  for a couple of years (tadah!)

On something related on the "internet of all the things" idea (yes...the next step in human surveillance! having machines provided with sensors all over your town, house and so on, connected with your phone, your electricity line, whateva).

 

:D

 

Ok, so...i've seen the data flow. I've seen the servers workload. I've even seen firsthand the devices that are to be installed all over the place.

 

Yes sure i might be wrong.

 

And yes sure, after all the Indian green card guys (God bless them all, best ppl in the world) of my team having done all the hard work, everything might be handled to some secret Gov agency (good luck to read through the documentation and my spaghetti code).

 

I mean....honestly...

I still prefer the hypothesis of the "global hysteria handling through funny stories" more than the actual surveillance thing ("if you can't make it fake it", in NSA the biggest positions must be covered by novelists, i think is much more profitable).

 

On a side note: i indeed have an imaginary "NSA controller" friend that i talk to every time i do something..."interesting" at home (writing novels, expressing opinions, not even sex is so fun at my place) but i believe we got to understand each other :D.

I honestly got to the conclusion that by now they know that none of us is really "dangerous" (unless they plan a bombing or a mass murdering and...well, they don't catch those very well...or our country is leaking crazies all over the place and those few we see are just the few leaking through the cracks...it might be).

And then how dangerous?

 

USA is a big corp where democracy runs on startups/big corps and so on. None of us cares about politics bc politics count ...well...zero (see last 8 years of presidential tenure, with all the respect of the most sexy smart beautiful intelligent first lady ever).

So who is "ideologically" so dangerous that calls for global surveillance?

Socialists?
Hackers?

Nah...

 

Psycological Warfare.

 

And (also to my friendly NSA controller sake) is something i humbly respect because the results have been astonishingly fantastic.


God Bless America

 

PS: i hope those Saturn rockets were also delivering fake landers on moon's surface. That would have been the cherry upon the pie.


Edited by amara bin, 03 June 2014 - 07:58 PM.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 02:51 AM

Yeah of course NSA is spying. The problem is that the main function of the courts that I can see is to pull the government when they get out of hand. The ECOJ does this relatively well imo. In the states the courts just bend over backwards, especially with the magical pass phrase "its a matter of nation security".

 

Now I'd never be as brass and arrogant as to absolutely state aliens didn't exist, like some people. And anyone who digs will find a systematic system in place by the elites to reduce individual liberties and the eventual enslavement of every world citizen. The problem is that people can't accept it and don't want to believe it. You will get vicious arguments from very intelligent people on this forum telling you you're a nutjob and that it's BS and (the classic) "where's the proof"?  Evidence and logic isin't going to help you, your arguing with emotions and ya can't win.

 

Would love to believe that there were 4 different kinds of aliens on the planet each with their own agenda, but that's just the sci-fi reading geek in me. Anyway if they do exist hope they take over soon, god the place is going to shit. They'll surely have better economic and environmental policies anyway.

 

 



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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:01 AM

Not necessarily.



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Posted 19 June 2014 - 12:23 AM

I have nothing against this idea of believing in alien life visiting earth.

Actually i understand it: here we are so much isolated among us that we need to think that there must still be one being sane enough, somewhere, to think this world, our society are the real aliens.

Can you imagine these guys...they conquered disease, have infinite energy supplies, they can choose exactly to be who they want, they can even spend 100 years in a space ship to explore other worlds!

They come on this planet and write something like...

"Life on this planet is fascinating! We have never seen a race of semi evolved mammalians acting such a complex paradoxical behavior and thinking is meaningful.

1)The Human works, a lot, get really tired and sad. Lives in perennial scarcity of nutrients.
Works and is payed with paper scrapes.

 

2)Human gives some of  these scrapes at Costco and in exchange takes something home.
Human realize he doesn't care for that something but since he can't bring it back he trows it away.

3)In the best of the hypothesis the thing goes recycled, in the worst in a dumpster  (they eventually end up covered in mud and grass, called "hills" or "parks" and have their pets walked upon it).

4) If it goes recycled, a factory (maybe even the one  who did it in the first place), use those very same paper scrapes to buy it back from the dumpster and make a new thing out of it, sells it to Costco and is purchased back from the very same human using brand new, just earned,hardly  made, piece of papers).

 

5) There are places in the middle of this circle where this paper gets eventually accumulated.
Persons leading these entities feels to have achieved something important in life just because has a room in his house full of paper.

6) They use the 0.000000000000002% of those resources for studying interstellar travelling technology, the 0.5% to buy products to enhance sexual arousal/erections and a crazy 30% to prepare each other's annihilation through mass destruction. 


U N B E L I E V A B L E!

 

 

Although they are a really dangerous specie (so we suggest a lot of caution or you might be assaulted by their military forces, hidden in a scientific laboratory and made into pieces because they think is the way to get to know us.) we must recognize is a priceless ethnological experience.

 

We recommend also not to implant a local meat processing facility here not because they are particularly intelligent, or worthy, only because we tried already a couple and they taste like crap."


Edited by amara bin, 19 June 2014 - 12:40 AM.


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Posted 26 August 2014 - 09:45 PM

http://www.sott.net/...usands-of-years

http://www.huffingto..._n_3390295.html

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Canada's former minister of National Defence Paul Hellyer testified at the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure (CHD) last month in Washington D.C. that aliens are living among us and that it is likely at least two of them are working with the U.S. government.

Hellyer, whose beliefs on extraterrestrial life and UFOs are well established, made the statements at the non-governmental hearings chaired by six former U.S. congressmen and aimed at, according to the event's website, doing "what the U.S. Congress had failed to do for forty-five years — [sic] seek out the facts surrounding the most important issue of this or any other time — [sic] evidence pointing toward an extraterrestrial presence engaging the human race."

Hellyer asserted a number of interesting things during his testimony and video of what he said has gone viral (read the full transcript). Here are some of the highlights:

- "At least four species" of alien have been visiting Earth for "thousands of years."

- Some of the aliens hail from the "Zeta Reticuli, the Pleiades, Orion, Andromeda, and Altair star systems" and "may have different agendas."

Yes, the Satanic/NWO Agenda.






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