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[caruga]

Is it possible to combine naturally competitive minerals in such a ratio at such a quantity that you would be able to absorb a sufficient amount of each one at the same time?

And if it is theoretically possible, has anyone worked it out or would know where to begin figuring it out?

[Dorian Grey]

Magnesium and Calcium combo supplements are common here in the states and I believe KAL's "Opti-Zinc" contains some copper.

Dietary intake should also be factored in to the equation, as should be one's "starting point" of stored minerals and/or accumulations. Many believe hair analysis is the only way to properly measure stored minerals and accumulations, and I wouldn't want to take a zinc supp containing copper unless I was confident my copper levels were not elevated (as they commonly are!).

I've quit messing around with most mineral supplementation as deficiencies tend to be less common than accumulations as we age. I take a bit of low dose Mag-Citrate and also some low dose zinc occasionally as I believe these are the most common mineral deficiencies, and Mag and zinc are two minerals I don't want to run short on.

True deficiencies of trace minerals are rare, but imbalances of these are common. Acu-Cell Nutrition has a great site on this here:
http://www.acu-cell.com/

[caruga]

Magnesium and Calcium combo supplements are common here in the states and I believe KAL's "Opti-Zinc" contains some copper.

Dietary intake should also be factored in to the equation, as should be one's "starting point" of stored minerals and/or accumulations. Many believe hair analysis is the only way to properly measure stored minerals and accumulations, and I wouldn't want to take a zinc supp containing copper unless I was confident my copper levels were not elevated (as they commonly are!).

I've quit messing around with most mineral supplementation as deficiencies tend to be less common than accumulations as we age. I take a bit of low dose Mag-Citrate and also some low dose zinc occasionally as I believe these are the most common mineral deficiencies, and Mag and zinc are two minerals I don't want to run short on.

True deficiencies of trace minerals are rare, but imbalances of these are common. Acu-Cell Nutrition has a great site on this here:
http://www.acu-cell.com/

None of that answers the question. I'll reiterate:

At what ratio would you supply copper & zinc such that you'd get the same as taking them separately?
Same question to copper & molybdenum, iron & zinc, iron & manganese.

[Dorian Grey]

Humm... There must be a complete list of the RDA (recommended daily allowance) for minerals available somewhere online you could dig up.

Then it would simply be a matter of seeking supplements close to the RDA. A pill cutter might come in handy as many supps seem to mega-dose and this might not be wise with trace minerals.

[caruga]

Thanks, but I think you're missing the point here: the minerals I listed are naturally competitive with each other. Zinc increases metallothionin in the gut which binds copper. Iron and zinc administered at the same time will result in hindered iron absorption. Copper and molybdenum are competitive for the same sites. Manganese and iron are antagonistic.

So taking them all at the same time at the RDA would probably wipe out the effects of one or more of them; I wish to know what doses need to be raised beyond the RDA in order to get an equivalent amount as if I had taken them separately.

Edited by caruga, 03 April 2014 - 10:22 AM.