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[pinocchiolux]

Hey I'm new to the site been playing with nootropics for a few years. I finally built up a nice stash I want to start building stacks in capsules. A few months ago I mixed some together came back and checked on it aaaand I found a pool of liquid I'm guessing it was a chemical reaction? If anyone has advice or stacks they'd like to share or want me to build to test I'd really appreciate it (:
Right now I've got:
Centrophenoxine
Colouracetam
Phenyl piracetam
Oxiracetam
Aniracetam
Pramiracetam
Piracetam
Adrafinil
B12
Creatine monohydrate
Noopept
lions mane
Also looking to expand my collection if anyone has any opinions!

[epiphone]

i would guess it could be creatine loosing water due to a condensation/anulation reaction. This could happen if another of these substances causes acidity. But i don't know the pKa's of them.
Also, because it is very difficult to predict what reactions could occur in such a mixture, i would not advice consumption of them altogether (but i'm new to this topic of nootropics).
best regards
epi

Edited by epiphone, 04 April 2014 - 11:38 PM.

[pinocchiolux]

Lol I didn't mix all of the items in my stock together. I believe the mixture that turned into a pool of liquid was a concoction of centrophenoxine, pramiracetam, noopept, and oxiracetam. Though I have tried mixing most of my stock together. I would strongly advise against it. Forgive me if this is too much information, but when I used the restroom my excrement smelled like burnt hair! :O never tried mixing that many again. I put my whole list of noots on here if anyone wanted me to try different stacks and post my results.

[pinocchiolux]

Thank you though epi your reply was good food for thought

[AmpleBeingdotcom]

Seems like a pretty abundant task you are looking to accomplish. You ever dabbled in Artichoke Extract and Forskolin combos before?

[Jeoshua]

The creatine in this list of chemicals is what is known as Hygroscopic, it attracts water molecules. Couple that with quite a few sour chemicals (acidic) and a few bitter ones (basic) and you have the recipe for a chemical reaction. Creatine is a good supplement, but ridiculously hard to mix with other chemicals in a capsule, both for reasons of chemical reactivity and also just purely the space taken up. The general recommendation for dosage is around 5 grams, which in a 00 capsule at the standard bulk density of Creatine is something like 10 pills. Better to take this one separately.

 

Also, the very highly potent racetams are better taken sublingually. This keeps their effects up and their overall costs down. They are generally about 2-3x less potent when taken orally as opposed to sublingually.