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[Blasteryui]

Two questions.. one do I HAVE to take choline with a nootropic? Second, noopept is suppose to be stronger then piracetam (according to a few websites i've read) but i've read good reviews about both.. which one should I take, or would taking both make a big difference? Oh and one more question, you guys recommend a good site that makes either of the two into pill form stacked/non-stacked. Found some decently cheap noopept on ebay.

thanks guys

Edited by Blasteryui, 06 April 2014 - 01:05 AM.

[Blasteryui]

bump

[Babychris]

I don't like piracetam, and to be honest I don't like racetams in general, try you'll see by yourself but don't expect anything beyond the purity of sobriety

[GoingPrimal]

Noopept is "stronger" in the sense that you need much less for it to kick in. Why not buy both, they're fairly cheap. You don't need a choline source either, I never use one.

In my experience I rarely ever "feel" -racetams, but do notice that they'll increase performance with certain things. For example, my guitar playing is usually noticeably better if I take -racetams. I wish they were as magical as some people make them sound to me - I trust they're still beneficial, but they don't have much of a pronounced effect. Ymmv

[Godof Smallthings]

Whether you need extra choline or not with a racetam is individual. For people already high in acetylcholine, it is not necessary and supplementation with choline can even causes muscle stiffness, low mood or irritability.

 

I generally think it is best to try out a racetam without choline supplementation first, and if that causes a headache or other negative symptoms, you can try adding on choline and see if that helps. Easier to troubleshoot with one thing at a time.

 

The choline you get from eating a couple of soft boiled eggs may be enough.