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[nushu]

I'm been doing a lot of research on this, it's one of the most fascinating things I've come across in some time. Reading The Wild Life of Our Bodies by Rob Dunn is what started it all. People are hosting human hook worms in their intestines to treat a variety of autoimmune disorders. In essence rewilding their bodies.

[nushu]

http://en.m.wikipedi...minthic_therapy

[YOLF]

Personally, I'd want to know if a version of these bugs without the damaging parts would work to prevent or treat these diseases before I'd use a pathogen... It may be that they balance the microflora. I'd also want the therapies necessary to kill it off if necessary.

[nushu]

I understand that they ate basically harmless. And you can quickly kill them all if you choose.

[nushu]

I inoculated with 25 Nacator americanus larva a week ago. I;ll come back here from time to time to update. Right now the larva should be in my lungs getting ready to ascend my trachea, then the decent into my large intestine where they will live. Check out the book An Epidemic of Absence if you want to learn more about the research in this field. 

[chemicalambrosia]

"People are hosting human hook worms in their intestines to treat a variety of autoimmune disorders. In essence rewilding their bodies."

 

Are people having success with this, and are they doing it under the guidance of doctors?

 

I glanced at the Amazon page for the book you mentioned in your last post. It looked pretty interesting, but I tend to look for books with actionable information, and ingesting intestinal worms seems pretty radical until it has been well trialed and studied.

[nushu]

Mice with helminths have fewer autoimmune disease  http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/24744099

 

Studies underway for food allergies  http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/24789880

 

Antiinflammatory, may help patients with Crohn's Disease  http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/24705296

 

Why do industrialized countries have such high rates of life robbing auto immune disease? Because we have killed ALL our worms  http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/24603369

 

Kv1.3 channel blocking with worms  http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/24891519

 

 

[nushu]

May protect against asthma, in this study only ten larva were used, probably too few to make a difference  http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC2814083/

[Kalliste]

Please keep us updated Nushu. I'm also fascinated. I will consider this if I develop autoimmune disease, but right now it seems too much trouble.

[drbrainfreeze]

Indeed this is fascinating. I never looked at those creatures as good. I mean they look like miniature alien ready to devour you. But hey keep us posted.

[JohnD60]

I inoculated with 25 Nacator americanus larva a week ago. I;ll come back here from time to time to update. Right now the larva should be in my lungs getting ready to ascend my trachea, then the decent into my large intestine where they will live.

and?

[nushu]

Two months in, no side effects. Positive effects: my gluten intolerance and eczema are completely gone. My migraines and allergies have improved by 80%. Most people receive the full benefit of the worms at four months. I recommend this book, it's a great source of information about helminthic therapy.   

 

 http://www.amazon.co...emic of absence

 

 

Edited by nushu, 06 July 2014 - 07:26 PM.

[Kalliste]

Please come back and report the results. Is this treatment permanent or will it require refills at certain intervals? Can you tell us how you bought the eggs?

Any negative sideeffects?

[nushu]

No negative side effects. Check out the Yahoo helminthic therapy group for a list of trusted suppliers. There's also a Yahoo hookworm donor group, that's where I got mine. You need to redose at least once a year, otherwise they die off over time. Once they are established in your intestine you can incubate your own larva with a chicken egg incubator. The larva are applied to the skin.

[nushu]

http://opensourcehel...Hookworm_Larvae

[nushu]

https://groups.yahoo...hictherapy/info
https://groups.yahoo...hictherapy/info

[nushu]

http://www.scienceco...rs_argue-138102

[Jun Han]

Currently, I have no conclusive knowledge on Helminthic Therapy to be advising you on anything, but just be careful.

Get baseline markers measured and consistently remeasure and compare. As risky as this therapy may seem to a currently uninformed member, I am interested in following up with your results and I'm sure the community will benefit, somehow, from your experimentation.

 

Just make sure you get the right helminths that do not harm you in the long run, and keep them in check, especially those that are capable to grow to sizes that significantly affect the GI tracts or that can multiply to inordinate amounts.

Hong Kong dieters warned over swallowing parasitic worms
Dieters in Hong Kong have been warned by government doctors that they may be risking their lives by swallowing parasitic worms that can grow up to 15 inches long.
The weight loss remedies use the eggs of Ascaris worms – giant intestinal roundworms which grow up to 15in in length in a host's intestine and lay up to 200,000 more eggs a day inside the body.
A spokesman for Hong Kong's department of health said swallowing the parasites could cause abdominal pain and distension, vomiting, diarrhoea and malnutrition.
"Parasite infestation may also be fatal if serious complications such as intestinal, biliary tract or pancreatic duct obstruction arise," the spokesman said. "The worms may even invade such organs as the lungs.

→ source (external link)

Apparently, Ascaris worms can grow up to 15 inches long and lay up to 200k eggs a day. That seems to be a little risky so beware of this one.

[StevesPetRat]

Any changes in energy levels, fatigue, muscle / joint pain, etc?

[nushu]

Any changes in energy levels, fatigue, muscle / joint pain, etc?

I feel better than I have in a long time.

[nushu]

Currently, I have no conclusive knowledge on Helminthic Therapy to be advising you on anything, but just be careful.
Get baseline markers measured and consistently remeasure and compare. As risky as this therapy may seem to a currently uninformed member, I am interested in following up with your results and I'm sure the community will benefit, somehow, from your experimentation.

Just make sure you get the right helminths that do not harm you in the long run, and keep them in check, especially those that are capable to grow to sizes that significantly affect the GI tracts or that can multiply to inordinate amounts.

Hong Kong dieters warned over swallowing parasitic worms
Dieters in Hong Kong have been warned by government doctors that they may be risking their lives by swallowing parasitic worms that can grow up to 15 inches long.
The weight loss remedies use the eggs of Ascaris worms – giant intestinal roundworms which grow up to 15in in length in a host's intestine and lay up to 200,000 more eggs a day inside the body.
A spokesman for Hong Kong's department of health said swallowing the parasites could cause abdominal pain and distension, vomiting, diarrhoea and malnutrition.
"Parasite infestation may also be fatal if serious complications such as intestinal, biliary tract or pancreatic duct obstruction arise," the spokesman said. "The worms may even invade such organs as the lungs.

→ source (external link)

Apparently, Ascaris worms can grow up to 15 inches long and lay up to 200k eggs a day. That seems to be a little risky so beware of this one.

Hookworms are tiny and do not multiply inside your body.

[Kalliste]

 

Any changes in energy levels, fatigue, muscle / joint pain, etc?

I feel better than I have in a long time.

 

 

Would you be able to give a bit more details. Age, physical condition, health problems and more details on feelings. I'm very interested in helminths.

[nushu]

I'm a 41 year old male. I've had migraine headaches for 15 years and seasonal allergies for as long as I can remember. Over all I'm healthy, I strength train regularly, grow my own veg and eggs, and eat mostly whole foods.

[nushu]

I'm incubating a stool sample to see if my worms are producing eggs. If they are I should see larva under the microscope soon.

[Kalliste]

Whats the overall feeling right now? Have you had any bloodwork or tests done`?

[nushu]

I feel great. Recent bloodwork all normal and as usual. I found larva in the incubated stool sample, so my colony is healthy and reproducing. Now I'll always keep larva on hand in case I lose my worms. I'm going to redose every six months.

[nushu]

Please keep us updated Nushu. I'm also fascinated. I will consider this if I develop autoimmune disease, but right now it seems too much trouble.

Once you develop autoimmune disease lots of damage is already done.
https://m.facebook.c...kmarkDiscussion group

[Kalliste]

I will join that group. Do you take C60?

[nushu]

http://www.scienceda...60907103128.htm

[nushu]

What is c60?