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#1 Bryan Roberts_22581

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 11:44 PM


I have been working very closely, with some of my smartest and brightest friends, on the design of a new chemical formulation, that which one day we're hoping, will dramatically improve people's lives. Where do we go to have this new chemical constructed, as affordably as possible, in the lab, for the first time?

 

Thank you,

Bryan Roberts



#2 PWAIN

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 11:52 PM

When you say a new chemical formulation, are you talking about creating a new molecule or are you just looking to mix various chemicals into a new compound?

 

You can contact any number of chemical systhesis companies to create a new molecule ut if you can give an idea of what type of molecule, may be able to narrow it down a bit eg. peptides are probably beest done by a peptide specialist.

 

Are you looking to create a nootropic like product or a life extension type of product? Do you have sufficient capital to get the synth and testing plus any other costs and have you got testing facilities for drug trials?


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#3 Phoenicis

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 12:32 PM

Have you thought about a patent before revealing your secret to a company?



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 02:19 PM

Not try to advise you here, was merely curious about your plan...



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Posted 31 May 2014 - 07:22 AM

I think Dr. Vita has a manufacturing division. They sell their own brands of dietary supplements and they can manufacture for other companies as well. It's as easy as having money and a plan and know where to buy the bulk material from if not buying from the manufacturer (i.e. Dr. Vita). Check out their website. Scroll around and you'll find it.

 

Now, what I'm more fascinated about is how something is created from scratch. Let's say vitamin C (ascorbic acid). How do I create this from scratch? What kind of training must I have: biochemistry or pharmacology? Chemical engineering? Is a lab needed? Where is all the powders coming from? Is that simply the base? How is the actual vitamin C made? Was it extracted from a citrus fruit? If so how much is needed to produced a kilogram? Does it need only a tiny amount and with chemical magic it can produce a tonnage?


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Posted 31 May 2014 - 08:26 PM

To create a molecule from scratch, you would study organic chemistry.  Nearly all of the molecules we're interested in are organic, which means that they contain carbon.  A small quantity of a molecule can be made in a synthetic chemistry lab, but if you want tons, then the process has to be scaled up to the scale of a chemical plant.  Often the things that work in the lab don't work at very large scale, and need to be changed.  Large scale syntheses are developed by process chemists, and the plants are built and operated by chemical engineers.

 

There are contract labs that will make anything for a price.  Many of these are in China.  Usually they work at the gram to kilogram scale, but some can do larger amounts.

 

Many molecules used as supplements are extracted from plant materials.  This involves treating the plant material with a solvent that dissolves the compound of interest.  (The words "compound" and "molecule" are interchangeable for our purposes.)  The solvent might be a traditional solvent like alcohol or hexane, or it might be steam or high pressure CO2.

 

Some compounds are made by microbes, which might have been genetically engineered to produce the compound.  They are grown in giant fermentation tanks, and the compound is recovered from the growth medium or microbe.

 

If you want to make your own supplement, you can buy raw materials in bulk from various providers, then take them to a contract service that will cap, bottle, and label them.  This is pretty easy to do, and explains the profusion of crappy supplements on the market, many of which are aimed at the bodybuilding community.


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