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[medievil]

Hello,

 

My old username is MeDieViL, some may remember me from my NMDA antagonists threads for the development and prevention of drug tolerance and withdrawal.

 

Much of my posts afterwards reduced dramatically in quality and content wich is atribute to the development of shizophrenia, eg entering the predromal phase, i have much reason this is what happened to me and caused my slow detoriation.

 

6 Years ago everything suddenly changed, the way i processed reward changed without me realising what went on as up till about a week i couldnt remember alot of childhood memorys because i couldnt process the associated reward, untill a week ago i can feel and process reward like 6 years ago and realise what was wrong, why i felt differened and finally escaped 6 years of hell.

 

Most ppl know i suffer from anhedonia, right now i would say anhedonia can be catagorized in 3 differened subtypes:

- Phasic reward defiency

- Tonic reward defiency

- Complete reward defiency eg anhedonia.

 

Every type has a differened treatment wich also is personal, i cant say how ppl have one of those subtypes but i hope to send volunteers samples soon and document their experiences for differened issues and eventually patent a certain intervention.

 

For me mainly a combination of 2 substances treat a type of anhedonia and togheter cause my miracelous recovery wich took 6 years of experimentation, hopefully it lasts.

 

I will post more later, hope you guys are ok.

Medi

[ZHMike]

hey medievil, I remember reading several off your threads when I joined LC not too long ago, you had good insightful contributions. What are the 2 substances? dont leave us hanging like that!

[medievil]

Im planning on patenting the intervention (after gathering anecdotes by sending the substances to simular members here) so i cant reveal anything.

 

Im very creative for some interventions and not patenting them (starting a pharmaceutical company is my dream) would be stupid for me financially.

Says the capitalist in me (while thinking beyond me im pro communism ha! so where all communist leaders, humans are born as capitalists.)

Edited by Alias22, 03 June 2014 - 03:11 PM.

[medievil]

Looking from the other side, regained all my emotions and reward i can say that shizophrenia truly is hell, and i never even came the the phase where i had positives without stims.

 

I allways took stims forcefully to escape anhedonia leading me to take them when i didnt have downers leading to psychosis, i nearly killed myself several times, its actually typical shizophrenia that.

Edited by Alias22, 03 June 2014 - 04:07 PM.

[chris106]

Wow this sounds very promising.

First of all, It's great to hear that you managed to conquer your symptoms and get rid of them for good!

I also think it's well deserved that you should have a benefit from this - so you can turn all the negative experinece into something positive and maybe help others - if you gain from it financially- the better!

What I'd like to know - would people who don't suffer from shizophrenia benefit from your patent as well? Does it hold nootropic value in any other aspects (you don't have to go into specifics or details, of course!)

Do you have a rough idea as to when you might get the patenting done and be able to reveal your discovery?

[StevesPetRat]

Do you discuss the different types of anhedonia somewhere? I experience virtually no satisfaction from anything, which is why I end up spending so much time d!cking around on this site rather than being productive Is that "reward deficiency"?

 

Sex used to be an exception, but now it's another pointless endeavor.

 

If you want to PM me I promise not to share your formula, I can try it on my pet rat and let you know how it goes.

[Michael Rian]

So rather than help the people suffering from similar issues that you had, you rather go after monetary rewards?  You know how horrible these conditions are and how badly we want to end, or at  least dial down, our suffering.  I hope you make lots and lots of money and sleep on a bed of beautiful woman. 

[Major Legend]

Not really sure why you would post something hinting at a solution, and then say you can't say it because you plan to patent it.

 

I have no issue with people wanting to make a living, as long as they do it for some kind of good in the end, however I would regard this as trolling lol.

[medievil]

So rather than help the people suffering from similar issues that you had, you rather go after monetary rewards?  You know how horrible these conditions are and how badly we want to end, or at  least dial down, our suffering.  I hope you make lots and lots of money and sleep on a bed of beautiful woman. 

I will help people that PM me,

 

As an aside i apologise for my downrime and lack of responses, everything i was working on get delayed because of personal/other issues.

[YoungSchizo]

Sooo.. you want to patent two existing substances? You'd better keep the patent papers secret from the public, like, I dunno, in a locker under your bed  

 

And if you really want to help, just throw it out here instead of asking people to PM you.

Edited by YoungSchizo, 02 August 2014 - 03:19 PM.

[chris106]

I think a few people are reading too much sinister intentions into the whole patent thing.

Though I cannot speak for medievil - getting a patent filed doesn't automatically mean withholding all information about the ingredients in the long run.

Once the patent is filed, it would protect medievel's idea/ discovery from being stolen by someone else to make a profit of it. From protecting your idea to getting a product on the market a lot of time can pass, and from what he said it doesn't seem like he' planing on withholding the information until the finished product hits shelves - So filing a patent could be seen as a simple precaution for now.

Also, I think he has a point in that it would actually be stupid to post the information BEFORE getting the patent filed, which from the sound of it, he plans to do in the near future.

Think of it as of CILTEP: Everyone can buy the ingedients in Bulk and create his own CILTEP-Stack, but the right to make money of it (which doesn't stop anyone else from bying the single ingredients instead for much cheaper prizes and use them) is resolved to the person who made the discovery - as it should be.

(I'm only using CILTEP  as an example to make my point - I think Tim Ferris is somehow involved with CILTEP - I'm not promoting Tim Ferris' way of doing these things, I don't support that guy.
And yes, I'm aware that it was Abellard's discovery, who - as far as I know - decided to not gain from it finacially, which is cool as well)

So I guess what I'm trying to say is - cut medievil some slack for now, and maybe give him the benefit of the doubt. If he's been through schizophrenia himself, I highly doubt he will withold the information to help others who suffer from it in the long run.

But I think the fact that he managed to get himself out of this horrible state by finding a combination that could help many others deserves some credit (given that this even holds true, of course). And I think if he wants to benefit from that, that is (in this case at least) deserved as well.

 

 

Edited by chris106, 02 August 2014 - 03:59 PM.

[dami79]

I PM for help.  Here's how I got the answer.

 

"Because i want a patent i cant tell what will help but if you pay me ill order me treatments for negatives put them in unlabeled capsules and send them to you, amd you reporting your results would be extremely helpfull for me"

 

Amused me, ha ha. This guy is dangerous. I'm not a guinea pig, jerk.

[medievil]

Dude I didn't force you to take anything also many of my treatments are combos of regular meds. If you wanted to pay twenty pound or whatever the regime I have in mind costs I'll tell you all about it whether it contains experimental meds etc. Your the only jerk here I'm not giving away my ideas if I want to patent them.

[dami79]

You do not understand anything. It's not about the money. It's about ethics. Many things help on negatives and anhedonia: amphetamines, other CNS stimulants, deprenyl, baclofen, mirtazapine etc. This does not mean that I want to try them.

[medievil]

And hello do you read my posts? My regime is half experimental and your shocked I might suggest experimental stuff?
Why do you ask for help if you don't want to try meds?

[dami79]

Who do I talk to? Another kid with delusions and hypomania. 

[medievil]

Elaborate mate

[YoungSchizo]

*taking out popcorn*

[pamojja]

Usually pharmaceutical companies give a nice salary to human lab rats testing a new compound, paying for the risk of possibly getting stuck with side-effects, which can ruin the rest of one's life.

 

You're reckoning with the desperation of someone seriously suffering and therefore would do without a compensation for taking that serious risk, moreover, without any rudimentary monitoring of lab-markers and through professionals. That's beyond any ethic and only for a maximum in profit.

 

However, I still encourage you to go forward right away to patent your compound. Then find a pharmaceutical company as partner to be able to compensate for the possible risks, and which are able to provide monitoring. Otherwise, in the best of events, you'll only get a bunch of worthless anecdotal experiences. And without any ethic instance on your side, probably financially tainted results only desperate could be exploited with.

[medievil]

*taking out popcorn*

hehe

Usually pharmaceutical companies give a nice salary to human lab rats testing a new compound, paying for the risk of possibly getting stuck with side-effects, which can ruin the rest of one's life.

 

You're reckoning with the desperation of someone seriously suffering and therefore would do without a compensation for taking that serious risk, moreover, without any rudimentary monitoring of lab-markers and through professionals. That's beyond any ethic and only for a maximum in profit.

 

However, I still encourage you to go forward right away to patent your compound. Then find a pharmaceutical company as partner to be able to compensate for the possible risks, and which are able to provide monitoring. Otherwise, in the best of events, you'll only get a bunch of worthless anecdotal experiences. And without any ethic instance on your side, probably financially tainted results only desperate could be exploited with.

Its up to the person testing stuff wheter they are willing to test things that can be risky mate.

[Flex]

Dont You think that the testing person may come behind Your idea, when sending the capsules ?

Ok I dont think that person would make an analysis for several K , but maybe through an allready known taste or anything like that

[medievil]

I mix everything with extreme dxm doses leaving PPP so fucked they won't recognize it. UK offcourse

[Flex]

lol ^^

[chris106]

This is getting weird...

[dami79]

Like I said this guy is crazy. I have medical education and I know that what this freak do is immoral at best. F..k you medievil, eat your f... Dxm alone.

[nupi]

This is bonkers even by medievil's usual standard...