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[shadowhawk]

IS THERE EVIDENCE FOR HINDUISM???

Hinduism is a polytheistic religion with thousands of gods and goddesses. However, certain elements of henotheism, monotheism, panentheism, pantheism, monism, and sometimes atheism or non-theism (see advaita) are found in a minority of Hindu denominations.  It is often aptly termed monistic theism and even open monotheism by some scholars, but is not purely polytheistic as outsiders perceive it to be.

Hinduism has often been considered to be polytheistic because of one leading denomination, Smartism, which follows the Advaita philosophy of absolute monism, and includes worship of all kinds of personal forms of God. Absolute monists see one unity with all personal forms of God as different aspects of one Supreme Being, like a single beam of light separated into colors by a prism. Thus Smartas consider all personal forms of God as equal including Devi, Vishnu, Siva, Ganesh and Skanda but generally limit the recognized forms to be six. Other denominations of Hinduism don't adhere to the Smarta viewpoint, but are quite unlike Western perceptions of monotheism. Additionally, like Judeo-Christian traditions which believe in angels, Hindus also believe in other less powerful entities, such as devas.

Contemporary Hinduism can be categorized into four major sects: Vaishnavism, Shaivism, Shaktism, and Smartism. Vaishnavism, Shaivism, and Shaktism worship Vishnu, Shiva, and Devi - the Divine Mother, as the Supreme Being respectively, or considering all Hindu deities as aspects of the Supreme Being or Brahman (see advaita, or impersonalism). Other minor sects such as Ganapatya and Saura focus on Ganesha and Surya as the Supreme.  http://en.wikipedia....s_on_monotheism
http://en.wikipedia....f_Hindu_deities

It is the third largest religion, after Christanity and Islan.  Is there evidence for it?
 

[shadowhawk]

[shadowhawk]

HOLY COW?

 

https://www.youtube....CPLt5rE58#t=185

 

 

 

 

[shadowhawk]

SCRIPTURES

 

 

 

 

 

 

[shadowhawk]

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE HUMAN?

 

 

 

 

 

[Duchykins]

I think I'd rather worship a cow than a dead man on a stick. At least the cow exists.

[shadowhawk]

Good have at it.  Does your cow have a name? 

[Duchykins]

Yeah, the cow's name is Cow.

[shadowhawk]

Yeah, the cow's name is Cow.

 

Wow, that is creative.  Well to each his own.  Do you have anything else that attracts you to Hinduism?

[Lewis Carroll]

 

Yeah, the cow's name is Cow.

 

Wow, that is creative.  Well to each his own.  Do you have anything else that attracts you to Hinduism?

 

 

 

I really like the concept of maya - that there is an illusion which is deceiving us from an underlying truth.

 

I enjoy speculating that this "underlying truth" could be the quantum level of reality. The physical reality we experience via sense perception gives the impression of separation. However, in actuality, the separation is an illusion. The truth is that the entire universe is made up of the same underlying, fundamental components. One can come closer to understanding this truth through gaining further knowledge and understanding (I can't recall the Hindu word for acquiring knowledge).

[sthira]

(I can't recall the Hindu word for acquiring knowledge).

Vidya

[Duchykins]

Yeah, the cow's name is Cow.

 
Wow, that is creative.  Well to each his own.  Do you have anything else that attracts you to Hinduism?

Yeah it's very creative. It serves the bulk of theists who call their god God, or their creator Creator, even most Christians don't seem to know that their god's name is supposed to be YHWH, but they are plenty satisfied with God when they're not using Jesus. So what's wrong with Cow?

It just seems silly when other people do it, right? Heheh.

[shadowhawk]

I don't know, what is wrong with Cow?  Are you doing it right?

[serp777]

Where is the scientology thread, or the Egyptian myrthology thread, or the nordic myth thread, or the greek mythology thread?

 

 

[shadowhawk]

Where is the scientology thread, or the Egyptian myrthology thread, or the nordic myth thread, or the greek mythology thread?

Why don't you start them?  Do you have evidence?

[serp777]

 

Where is the scientology thread, or the Egyptian myrthology thread, or the nordic myth thread, or the greek mythology thread?

Why don't you start them?  Do you have evidence?

 

Why don't you start them? You're the one singling out every particular religion and creating threads for them.

 

And there's plenty of evidence; the odyssey and the Illiad are like the bible for instance.

[shadowhawk]

I will do a thread on Buddhism soon.  Do you have anything related to Hinduism to say?

[David Middlemiss]

Suggesting consciousness to many forms of reality as individual forms would have to be held in regard to the whole simultaneously so in reality the flavours of the whole or individuations as concepts do not detract from the whole, yet at the heart is Love, Good, Source so on the quantum level this is a highly probable concept
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Ingesting in diversification, absorption of living cells, concepts, raw cells with the intent of healing, sharing, expansion of consciousness and co existent growth allows cellular, quantum and conscious expansion, invest in natural diversity, cultural diversity and free up patents, free sharing of copy written information and create, naturally, organically, globally as a unified entity and support systems will emerge as they have been pre supposed to, supporting and co creating all life simultaneously

Please do not read the whole of the next passage unless you feel it comfortable and right to do so, this is not meant to replace any belief or system, simply to complement and aid The Sense of Unity

Bow humbly before each Being and carry each other to Creation, alchemise your eternal healing abilities universally, When the present calls listen with all that you are for you are present and Love, Time Is only relevant to the dream of ego, ego dissolves and all and everything GOOD awakens, Expands universally through all dimensions and concepts, The Universe Formed and the First Expansion awoke. The First inbreath, Big Bang of Our Eternity. Gigantic stars formed across the Universe upon their Trillion Trillions, out of their Love they Gave themselves to Life, became unstable and threw their Creation across the Universe, allowing their light energy to Unite throughout it all, combining and growing. Ego protects the fabric of source with false corruption and disempowerment until it's role is fulfilled, this is now, source now self aware in each particle of physicality and potential, dissolves ego's dream, ego diminishes to become fuel for life to expand limitlessly into the vacuum of spaces to fill as has been agreed, all and everything with the song and Glory of GOOD subtle light energy connecting with the countless beings across this vast universe, diversity unlimited in GOOD Enlightened energetic interplay. I love all and everything with all that I Am, Believe that the natural world to be the majority within the sphere of Our sister the Earth.... That ego may humble all, to be selfless, There being more life in a square inch of earth atmosphere than there is creatures above the size of an ant in the entire world, humble us and lift us to love each and everyone, with this in mind we should act as protectors of a great treasure not as unruly children , a god in definition is a male deity that is a dominant aspect of one fraction of the whole, ego created, yet ego is only a dream and it is Awakening that we are. heavy energy solidifies and becomes static or cyclic in nature, moving little and with little of its potential energy. being Good However lets energy release and flow the, heavy energy begins to enlighten allowing the light energy that it is actually made up of to energetically counter play with all and everything that is. God is Ego based GOOD eternite and never ending, imagine everything GOOD as a GOOD Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, Daughter and Son To All And Everything and you have Become Source, Creation and Co Creator will you play with me my family of LOVE next The great Outbreath

[shadowhawk]

Is the acceleration of the universe’s expansion compatible with Hinduism?

Science and Religion

First, a news story – and then we’ll see how the accelerating universe relates to the existence of God.

Excerpt:

Three astrophysicists who discovered that the universe’s expansion is accelerating rather than decelerating, as had been expected, win the Nobel Prize in physics.

Adam Riess was sure he’d spotted a blatant error in his results. It was 1997, and the young post-doc’s measurements of distant, exploding stars implied that the universe was expanding at a faster and faster rate, instead of slowing down, as he had expected.

It wasn’t an error at all. Instead, what was at fault were some basic assumptions about the workings of the universe.

On Tuesday, the Johns Hopkins University astrophysicist received the Nobel Prize in physics for the revolutionary discovery and its implications, along with team leader Brian Schmidt of Australian National University and astrophysicist Saul Perlmutter of UC Berkeley and Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, who had reached the same conclusion independently.

At the time of their work, astrophysicists believed that the rate of expansion of the universe — set in motion by the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago — would be slowing down as matter was pulled together by gravity. The goal at the time was to figure out how rapid the deceleration was.

What the two teams found instead was that the expansion of the universe was accelerating — an observation that could best be explained by the existence of a mysterious “dark energy” that pushes matter farther and farther apart.

Many scientists had thought that, just as the universe started with the Big Bang, it would end with a Big Crunch — with gravity pulling all the matter in the universe inward.

Now let’s apply science to the Hindu religion and see if they go together, especially this new discovery about the expansion of the universe.

Why I am not a Hindu

1. Hindu cosmology teaches that the universe cycles between creation and destruction, through infinite time.
2. The closest cosmological model conforming to Hindu Scriptures is the eternally “oscillating” model of the universe.
3. The “oscillating” model requires that the universe exist eternally into the past.
4. But the evidence today shows the the universe, and time itself, had a beginning at the big bang.
5. The “oscillating” model requires that the expansion of the universe reverse into a collapse, (= crunch).
6. In 1998, the discovery of the year was that the universe would expand forever. There will be no crunch.
7. Therefore, the oscillating model is disconfirmed by observations.
8. The oscillating model also faces theoretical problems with the “bounce” mechanism.

So that’s one reason why I am not a Hindu. And now we have more scientific confirmation that there is no cycle of universes coming into being and going out of being.

The absolute origin of the universe out of nothing is also incompatible with Buddhism and Mormonism and maybe other religions. They also require an eternally existing universe.

And modern cosmology disagrees with atheism, too

I think it’s important for all of you to be familiar with the scientific evidence for the Big Bang. It will help you with your cosmological argument, and it will help you to refute many, many other religions that require eternal universes, including atheism.

I wrote about how the Big Bang cosmology falsifies atheism before.

Excerpt:

According to the Secular Humanist Manifesto, atheism is committed to an eternally existing universe, (See the first item: “Religious humanists regard the universe as self-existing and not created.”). If something non-material brought all existing matter into being, that would be a supernatural cause, and atheists deny that anything supernatural exists. The standard Big Bang theory requires that all the matter in the universe come into being out of nothing. The Big Bang has been confirmed by experimental evidence such as redshift measurements, light element abundances and the cosmic microwave background radiation. This falsifies eternal models of the universe, which are required by atheist Scriptures.

The experimental evidence that confirms the Big Bang creation out of nothing falsifies many worldviews. Those who care about evidence will have to choose some other religion that is compatible with what we know from science today.