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[Insum]

Hi everyone, I'm fairly new here. I signed up ages ago but haven't posted too often on the forum.

 

I am a longterm user of stablon/tianeptine, one of the only drugs that helps my mental health, in all aspects.

 

A little history of myself:

 

I am prone to bouts of depression/anxiety with a bit of ocd/add mixed in, and tend to be a fairly anxious person internally (I internalize a lot of my thoughts and 'think too much'). However, I also tend to be very blunt/upfront about my thoughts with people, especially when something upsets me. I let it be known and am fairly assertive...sometimes speaking too quickly though..

 

In the past, I self-medicated with weed in the evenings, especially when things got bad, but since I am a very active/athletic and motivated person - this was not an ideal longterm solution. I've also used wellbutrin and effexor at different times. Effexor worked, horrible sides. Wellbutrin didn't do much. I've used ativan at times, currently use xanax infrequently when the 'stir craziness' works me up at night.

 

There is also a mixed medical side to my mental health issues. I have adrenal fatigue and take daily hydrocortisone for it, titrated throughout the day. I'm also on TRT for low testosterone, something I wasn't treated for until I discovered this issue late in the game (late 20s). I am sure I had this problem since my teens, due to an injury, but never really looked into it at all. Both my adrenal issues and testosterone issues have been treated for years now, something I will continue to treat for the rest of my life. My 20s were a real waste/rollercoaster ride until I started to treat those issues.

 

Fast forward to now: 

 

I am prone to overthinking things, worry about things out of my control, and am prone to negative thoughts / depression.  I've mainly been treating my anxiety (which mainly comes late in the day) with keeping myself very active and physically fit, working out daily and doing yoga almost daily... but my mind still wanders to places it shouldn't be. Dark thoughts and overthinking. So, I discovered Stablon / Tianeptine via the internet and it's been a love affair ever since. It's been greatly effective whever I've needed it.

 

I've used tianeptine 3 times total so far. It typically works perfectly for about 4 months total for me, before it poops out. I typically take a dosage of 60mg per day, in 3 divided doses. What I have not done is experiment with off times, or ways to prevent tolerance. Typically, I've stopped it for a number of months before starting again. I've recently discovered the availability of Tianeptine powder and order it locally. What a lifesaver. Way less costly, and arrived very quickly.

 

I want to share that tianeptine, at 60mg per day, (20mg dosages x 3), works instantly for me. My anxiety was almost immediately gone, and feeling of well being came quickly. I am on my third day now.

 

I am thinking about adding in 5HTP / Sam-E into the mix, as well as sublingual melatonin, something I haven't tried in years. Usually with my training and yoga, sleep at night is not a problem for me, but I'm hoping the melatonin will help to control my circadian rhythm, which is admittedly a bit skewed. I am also interested in learning how to control my thought patterns, and calm myself / clear my mind. Yoga is definitely helping with this, but I need to do more homework so to speak, and practice more.

[Max Headroom Incident]

You sound a lot like me, what with the OCD/fatigue and all.   

 

I take tianeptine in a 2 weeks on/2 weeks off fashion.  It seems to maintain effectiveness this way.  I'm not entirely sure what my doses are, but I usually just re-dose whenever I feel like it throughout the day.  I combine it with my daily doses of 2-FA or 2-FMA, which adds to the dopamine boost exponentially.  No withdrawal or weird mood issues when I stop abruptly. 

 

I agree that tianeptine works instantly, sort of like benzos work instantly for anxiety.  People say it takes a "minimum of 2 weeks!!!!!!!!111!1" to take effect, but I call BS.  I've taken every SSRI in existence and can say without hesitation that tianeptine works upon the first dose.  SSRI's do not.

 

Glad you're having some success.

[Ruinmir]

I agree with Max about tianeptine working immediately, there is definitely an acute anxiolytic effect. I've used it consistently for the past ~2 months around 100mg per day. Just ran out a few days ago. No obvious withdrawal symptoms, though I've read anecdotes of horrible withdrawals from people taking much higher doses. I'll be receiving selegiline soon, curious to see what the combination will be like.

[Sciencyst]

Tianeptine is indistinguishable from opiates for me, and has mu opiod activity, probably as well as its metabolites. So it can definitely have opiate withdrawal. One person described it as identical to his heroin withdrawal. I am glad most people here seem to understand its danger and cycle it.

[penisbreath]

Tianeptine is indistinguishable from opiates for me, and has mu opiod activity, probably as well as its metabolites. So it can definitely have opiate withdrawal. One person described it as identical to his heroin withdrawal. I am glad most people here seem to understand its danger and cycle it.

 

Alternatively, I know someone with treatment-resistant depression for whom Tianeptine was the only anti-depressant that ever worked. He's used it for approx. 6-8 years without issue, with short breaks taken to try other stuff. He's never exceeded 12.5mg t.i.d.

[Sanguine_Rogue]

I take Tianeptine every day without taking it on the weekends, or holidays.

I generally take 12mg to 24mg a day.