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[MasterHerb]

http://teamtlr.com/t...ugerafinil.html

 

New site with a bunch of interesting compounds. If anyone has tried this substance or any other substance from this website please report back with results! This analogue supposedly is more potent and has less side effects.

[jaiho]

has anyone tried this?

[sk_scientific]

has anyone tried this?

 

Yes.

 

I did not take an equivalent dose to that of modafinil.  I took only about 60 mgs.  It did seem to have action and was not as unpleasant as Adrafinil was to me.  Additionally given the difference in the molecule, I did not detect the odor of the nasty metoblites and byproducts that are excreted in urine when using Adrafinil.

Though I can not comment on the safety or difference of this analogue from that of Modafinil, I do believe it to be safer for the liver than Adrafinil given what I know of the compound and what I experienced.

Edited by sk_scientific, 06 August 2014 - 01:03 PM.

[ZHMike]

thanks for the update... keep us posted if you keep taking this if you dont mind

[pjt311]

I have some of this on the way. I was prescribed Modafinil years ago and also Nuvigil for depression-related fatigue. I have tried Ardafinil and was not impressed. I will post my thoughts on this compound once I have it. I currently take Adderall for energy (prescribed) but I still find it hard to concentrate and stay motivated.

 

Edited by pjt311, 06 August 2014 - 06:25 PM.

[sk_scientific]

Took some again today.  This time 100 mgs.  I'm alert and unilke Adrafinil, there's absolutely no "rush-up" that I can detect, no real physiological signs or symptoms. I just simply feel awake and I rolled out of bed feeling like I had been stomped on by an elephant, it took about 30 minutes and I was present.  Some people might like the "rush-up" of adrafinil but I found it unpleasant and it made me irritable.  Also Adrafinil made my hands break out in histamine related hives like I used to see when I took benedryl to go to sleep every night (a long, long time ago), none of that here so far.

 

I'd say that if you're a person looking for an Adderall replacement, aside from wakefulness, this isn't for you.  It has no dopaminergic action that I can detect.  Probably isn't going to improve motivation or concentration unless your concentration is just being effected by sleepiness.

[ZHMike]

are you worried about safety at all? As far as I can tell its basically untested in humans right?

[medievil]

are you worried about safety at all? As far as I can tell its basically untested in humans right?

I take about 4 untested chemicals in my stack, theres a risk but you gotta compare the risk benefit ratio, for me it was recovering from shizophrenia, my treatment is risky but for ME its worth it.

[sk_scientific]

are you worried about safety at all? As far as I can tell its basically untested in humans right?

 

Of course I am.  Some safety concerns are larger than others.

[medicineman]

I know a few different mice who are waiting to try this, small test dose, then around therapeutic dose. The mice will also be getting weekly Complete blood counts, kidney and liver function. Too bad due to logistics, I won't be receiving until September-October. Once I receive, I will report.

[sk_scientific]

Just an FYI, I had also experienced this with Sulbutiamine and Adrafinil, and I didn't expect it with Eugerafinil but beware, it makes your farts smell like the Halabja Massacre. 

[mindpatch]

Just an FYI, I had also experienced this with Sulbutiamine and Adrafinil, and I didn't expect it with Eugerafinil but beware, it makes your farts smell like the Halabja Massacre. 

Any more information about this chemical?  Not a lot on Reddit, and a Google search showed this longecity link which made me laugh.  Looks like this place has some fans. 

[sk_scientific]

I spoke with the folks at teamTRL and this is what they relayed to me regarding Eugerafinil:
 

 

Eugerafinil-OA (from TeamTLR) [is] related to the compound 9-Fluorenone.

As 9-Fluorenone was deemed slightly superior to 9-Fluorenol it was chosen for release as "Eugerafinil-OA".  This may in time be superseded by another more Optimized Analogue of this platform, that appears in testing to be well superior to both.  9-Fluorenone could perhaps have the trivial names of eugerafinil, as per given, and/or perhaps oxafinil.

 

 

Edited by sk_scientific, 25 August 2014 - 04:23 AM.

[aphex]

I found this on PubChem:

http://pubchem.ncbi....y.cgi?cid=10241

 

Scroll down to "Literature" and see the 3rd line:

"Wake promoting agents: search for next generation modafinil, lessons learned: part III."

 

In searching for a next generation molecule to the novel wake promoting agent modafinil (compound 1), a series of fluorene-derived wakefulness enhancing agents were developed and evaluated in rat. Extensive pharmacokinetic studies of a potent member of the series (compound 15) revealed that the wake promotion activity of the analog was likely due to an active metabolite (compound 3).

Compound 21 is Eugerafinil (9-fluorenone).

Unfortunately the whole article is not free. At least we have now found a definite, serious reference...

 

[gnappi]

See what I found:

http://www.chemsaver...enone-98-500-g/  

Dirty cheap!!! 

[pdxer]

Great site find. I think this is the Chem you want:

http://www.chemsaver...orenol-97-10-g/

The 10 and 50 G sizes aren't as compelling as 500 Gs but it's still a decent price. Let us know if you order and try some.

See what I found:
http://www.chemsaver...enone-98-500-g/
Dirty cheap!!!

[gnappi]

Great site find. I think this is the Chem you want:

http://www.chemsaver...orenol-97-10-g/

The 10 and 50 G sizes aren't as compelling as 500 Gs but it's still a decent price. Let us know if you order and try some.

See what I found:
http://www.chemsaver...enone-98-500-g/
Dirty cheap!!!

 

9-ethynyl-9-fluorenol is an eugeroic drug????     I contacted them to know if they ship to Brazil but they still   haven't  answered me ... What if we do a group buy to split these 500g  among 10 people  (50g for each at $13.38)???

[lad3]

FWIW:I was recently very under-slept and cranky on a Friday afternoon after a long, grueling work week. I had to finish things up and didn't want any more caffeine nerves - thinking that I would have to sneak in a short nap somehow instead. 

 

I had the most dramatic eurogenic effect ever after taking 100-200mg of bright yellow Eugerafinil under my tongue. I soon felt relaxed and well-rested and in a subtly good mood. Not the dopamine-stim type drive that MOD may give me the first few days I use it. More like just having had a great, little nap and ready to tackle the day. It was surprising even to me, someone who has tried about every legally available stim and energy boost going, and made me re-evaluate the role of serotonin vs. dopamine response in these kind of uses.

 

As others described, it lasted  maybe 4-6 hours or so, then I was definitely falling back into an even more cranky and tired mood afterwards during the long drive home. I don't know if this was some withdrawal effect, or just the stress and sleep debt finally coming back to collect it's normal due.

 

I just ordered some Hydrafinil to compare, and intend to keep one of these on hand for those occasional impossible afternoon slumps. The quick effect and short duration is a plus in those situations.

 

From this recent experience, this seemed definitely more targeted, useful and pleasant than normal caffeine or MOD/ARM, or even Adderall, use. Whether I will develop a tolerance to this dramatic effect upon very moderate use is still unknown (and it WILL be moderate, not knowing the long-term effects).

Edited by lad3, 22 March 2016 - 03:53 PM.

[John Schlongfellow]

Subbed.

Need a Adrafinil/Modafinil substitute.

 

Can anyone point (or even hint) where the current best Moda is coming from? I got 200G from Vosun a couple years ago but have been running low and I feel like a man in the desert looking at his last drops of water.