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Longecity is mentioned in this Popular Science article from 2012 Can Eating Buckyball-infused Olive Oil Prolong Your Lifespan?

[niner]

Huh.  I'm surprised that we missed that.  Maybe it was behind a paywall.  That was put out really early in the development of c60oo.  They got a bunch of things wrong, but I guess that shouldn't surprise anyone.  Their reference to Longecity should really have been to FightAging, since it was one of the FA posts that are auto-posted here that the link pointed to.  Well, it's nice to see that we have credibility in the media, and reason@FA certainly gets a bigger audience by mirroring here, even if he didn't get the attribution that time.

 

Isn't it funny how after a brief flash in the press, all talk about buckyballs increasing lifespan has evaporated?  Compare that to the hype over resveratrol that was everywhere you looked for a couple years.  Odd...

[Mind]

Resveratrol had more "professional" promoters, I think.

[niner]

Resveratrol had more "professional" promoters, I think.

You know what I think it is? Narrative. People just love a story, and resveratrol had a hum-dinger of a story. The "French Paradox" was supposedly due to something in red wine, and there is in fact a little bit of resveratrol in red wine. Add to that the known health benefits of CR, and the story from yeast that resveratrol was a life-extending CR-mimetic, and everyone was off to the races. Having a good-looking, slick-talking publicity hound with a Harvard pedigree pushing the whole story certainly helped.  It was some sort of perfect storm.  On the other hand, c60oo had no story, just some genetically healthy rats that lived extraordinarily long, the very sort of evidence that never appeared with resveratrol.  It only had a mild-mannered French toxicologist with a funny name who probably wouldn't have been a great guest on Oprah.  The difference in the hype levels is mind boggling.

[mikey]

 

Resveratrol had more "professional" promoters, I think.

You know what I think it is? Narrative. People just love a story, and resveratrol had a hum-dinger of a story. The "French Paradox" was supposedly due to something in red wine, and there is in fact a little bit of resveratrol in red wine. Add to that the known health benefits of CR, and the story from yeast that resveratrol was a life-extending CR-mimetic, and everyone was off to the races. Having a good-looking, slick-talking publicity hound with a Harvard pedigree pushing the whole story certainly helped.  It was some sort of perfect storm.  On the other hand, c60oo had no story, just some genetically healthy rats that lived extraordinarily long, the very sort of evidence that never appeared with resveratrol.  It only had a mild-mannered French toxicologist with a funny name who probably wouldn't have been a great guest on Oprah.  The difference in the hype levels is mind boggling.

 

 

One likely reason that C60 died out in the media relatively quickly compared to resveratrol is that people in the USA can sell resveratrol for consumption, as a component of food that is GRAS. C60 can only be sold with a warning: "Not for human consumption. For research purposes only." If C60oo was GRAS and FDA OK for human consumption, sales organizations would jump on it and it would be in every health-food store in the country.

[niner]

 

 

Resveratrol had more "professional" promoters, I think.

You know what I think it is? Narrative. People just love a story, and resveratrol had a hum-dinger of a story. The "French Paradox" was supposedly due to something in red wine, and there is in fact a little bit of resveratrol in red wine. Add to that the known health benefits of CR, and the story from yeast that resveratrol was a life-extending CR-mimetic, and everyone was off to the races. Having a good-looking, slick-talking publicity hound with a Harvard pedigree pushing the whole story certainly helped.  It was some sort of perfect storm.  On the other hand, c60oo had no story, just some genetically healthy rats that lived extraordinarily long, the very sort of evidence that never appeared with resveratrol.  It only had a mild-mannered French toxicologist with a funny name who probably wouldn't have been a great guest on Oprah.  The difference in the hype levels is mind boggling.

 

One likely reason that C60 died out in the media relatively quickly compared to resveratrol is that people in the USA can sell resveratrol for consumption, as a component of food that is GRAS. C60 can only be sold with a warning: "Not for human consumption. For research purposes only." If C60oo was GRAS and FDA OK for human consumption, sales organizations would jump on it and it would be in every health-food store in the country.

 

Yeah, that's probably a factor.  There is a little bit of resveratrol in various foods, so people have been taking it in small amounts for eons.  But you know what?  C60 is formed in flames from carbonaceous sources, so whenever you barbeque a piece of meat, or anything with fat or oil, you are going to get a very small amount of c60-triglyceride adduct.  Humans have been consuming this stuff for eons, in very small quantities.  If 500mg of pure resveratrol is GRAS, then you could probably make the same sort of argument for a milligram of c60-oo.  (both arguments are bogus, imho, but whatever...)

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Longecity is mentioned in this Popular Science article from 2012 Can Eating Buckyball-infused Olive Oil Prolong Your Lifespan?

 

Yes, but the Longecity link in the article:

http://www.longecity...ullerene-study/

points to a "Error - Sorry, we couldn't find that!" page.

[hav]

 

Longecity is mentioned in this Popular Science article from 2012 Can Eating Buckyball-infused Olive Oil Prolong Your Lifespan?

 

Yes, but the Longecity link in the article:

http://www.longecity...ullerene-study/

points to a "Error - Sorry, we couldn't find that!" page.

 

 

The c60 stuff has moved a few times since then.  Here's the current location of what they linked:

 

http://www.longecity...ic-discussions/

 

Howard

[Logic]

Longecity is mentioned in this Popular Science article from 2012 Can Eating Buckyball-infused Olive Oil Prolong Your Lifespan?

 
Yes, but the Longecity link in the article:
http://www.longecity...ullerene-study/
points to a "Error - Sorry, we couldn't find that!" page.

 
The c60 stuff has moved a few times since then.  Here's the current location of what they linked:
 
http://www.longecity...ic-discussions/


 
Howard

It may be a good idea to reroute traffic to that address to the new info? We want as many people reading about the stuff as possible and Popular Science has a big audience.