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[Adamzski]

I have two rear molars that could be given a root canal but they are really borderline, a dentist may do the root canal only to get the cash of a crown but I know the teeth are shot.

 

Whats the big problem with losing teeth? These teeth are no use in eating right now as they are pretty much 1/4 of a tooth.

 

I think im better to just get rid of them and get my other teeth that could be saved worked on. Crowns and root canals for two teeth will cost more than $1500, I could put that cash to use fixing almost all my other dental cavities.

 

 

Any thoughts on it? 

[niner]

Wow, I should come to Korea.  My dentist would want about six grand for the same work.   If you take out the molars, you'll have the expense, pain, and downtime of the surgery, and your facial contours will change.  Your cheeks would get a more hollow look.  If you had a round face, that might be a plus, but judging by your picture, it doesn't seem like it would be good for you.  Personally, I'd keep them.

[Adamzski]

Yeah one may be beyond fixing, the other could be fixable. I did get a root canal and a temporary filling on one mollar about a year ago but the temporary filling is long gone and there is just pretty much the void where the root used to be left. 

 

The downtime part is not so good for me right now. 

 

Australia you would not get much change out of $6k for a single tooth root canaled with a crown. It was going to cost me $1800 just for the root canal in AU.

 

 

[Danail Bulgaria]

Wow, I should come to Korea.  My dentist would want about six grand for the same work.   If you take out the molars, you'll have the expense, pain, and downtime of the surgery, and your facial contours will change.  Your cheeks would get a more hollow look.  If you had a round face, that might be a plus, but judging by your picture, it doesn't seem like it would be good for you.  Personally, I'd keep them.

 

Come in Bulgaria Here it will cost you 500 dollars :D

[niner]

 

Wow, I should come to Korea.  My dentist would want about six grand for the same work.   If you take out the molars, you'll have the expense, pain, and downtime of the surgery, and your facial contours will change.  Your cheeks would get a more hollow look.  If you had a round face, that might be a plus, but judging by your picture, it doesn't seem like it would be good for you.  Personally, I'd keep them.

 

Come in Bulgaria Here it will cost you 500 dollars :D

 

This is called medical tourism.  It's fairly popular, particularly for cosmetic procedures that aren't covered by insurance.   My dentist does very nice work, and is expensive even by US standards.  I'm planning a trip to Europe one of these days, but probably just for fun.  My grandfather came from one of the German communities in what was then Hungary, but is now Romania.  I'd like to visit his village.

[Adamzski]

I had not thought about bone loss from pulled teeth before, thanks niner.

 

http://www.deardocto...f-losing-teeth/

 

So a borderline possible root canal with post and crown or an immediate implant would be the options.

 

I spose bone is bone and it is useful to keep for all kinds of reasons other than cosmetic, but is it?

 

Have looked at a lot of info and Im not convinced that root canals are killing people and destroying lives but there could be something to it. Implants also can cause diseases and are fairly new. Titanium that corrodes and collects microbes or radioactive zirconium.

 

Might be best to pull out a single rear molar.

 

 

 

[Luminosity]

I don't know what you should do but I have talked to a lot of people who regret having root canals.  If I understand the rationale correctly, do they dig out the center of the tooth because that is supposedly where the decay is coming from?  What if that's not true and you've just structurally weakened the tooth?  Not sure what the best tooth replacement technology might be if any.  There are ceramic materials used now, and something called composite.  It sounds like ceramic might be the most harmonious to the human body, just on the sound of it.  There is something called winged pontiffs or pontiffs or something that is another new tooth replacement option.  The inventor is a dentist who is unusual, places odd ads and is quick to pull teeth, if you go to him in person, or so I've heard.  Not sure what to think of his invention, but it looks good.  Not sure I'd go to him, though.   Maybe someone else offers this option. 

 

It's important to quit tobacco, and then nicotine as quickly as possible, as this is likely the root cause of your tooth decay, along with any other bad habits.  

 

I used to have a list of supplements to regrow cartilage which were also good for teeth and bones.  I took it down because I was upset about getting too much negative feedback because of the "nuanced feedback system."  If you want it put back, feel free to contact the Board here and ask them to scrap the "feedback system."  Their screen names are: s123, Caliban, Mind, Shannon Vyff, Shepard and rwac

Edited by Luminosity, 12 September 2014 - 06:05 AM.

[Adamzski]

I think the main reason they do root canals is to get $1500 and future maintenance But they also do it as once cavities have breached the upper parts of teeth it is easy to get the insides infected or a source of pain. I first had a pulpotomy a few years ago and that removed all the upper insides of the tooth, it stopped the pain at the time, leaving me with pretty much a shell of a tooth with a gaping hole in it, kept me going. I then had the root canal last year.

It does work fairly well but I think at least one of my last molars is beyond any repair, it already has the insides of its roots removed, another rear tooth seems to me to be beyond repair but I will let them have a go at doing a root canal.

 

I have a spare set of teeth behind these rear molars! They are brand new and unused, My unerupted wisdom teeth! So I will remove the bad 2nd molar and I bet that my impacted wisdom tooth will straighten up and take its place, if it does then I will remove the others including the by then root canaled,crowned repaired one.

Its what they are there for.. no way I want to use titanium when I have real teeth there that are perfectly designed as spares for the job.

 

5 years ago I was booked in to have all my wisdom teeth removed under general anaesthetic for a total cost of $4,300 wow so glad that I did not do that. 

 

http://www.orthodont...replacement.pdf

[Danae]

Any more thoughts on wisdom tooth removal? In Europe now most young people have orthodontic treatment, and then are strongly advised to have their wisdom teeth removed surgically before they come through and potentially wreck the work. What's the situation elsewhere in the world?

Wisdom teeth can come through when other teeth are missing, and sometimes do so even in middle age - but the dentists here claim they're pointless, since they're too far back to be of use for chewing. Any thoughts?

The general explanation on continental Europe given by the dentists for this procedure is our jaws are getting smaller and our teeth haven't adjusted. Can this be true? Did anyone's late onset wisdom teeth come in useful later in life?

[Adamzski]

I will find out in some time at least in my case.

 

Why not wait and see if they are going to come through and wreck the orthodontic work first? Mine have stayed where they are, my top row of teeth are almost 95% fairly straight, my bottom row is a mess and would of been good to have had orthodontics on when younger. I could do it now maybe.

 

My wisdom teeth are impacted, they are 100% sideways pointing to the front of my mouth, but their natural inclination their MO is to come forward and fill in for the teeth that we would have lost by our mid life 20-25 years of age in older times. Now I am almost 37 and getting close to the mid life of my generations lifespan, so yeah who knows. Might not be fun teething again..

 

I think they are there the wisdom teeth for this purpose, so it might be good to remove them if you will never lose any rear teeth.

 

I have seen that they also pull a bunch of teeth most of the time when doing orthodontics, so they fight to save teeth that are dead leave these dead teeth in your mouth but pull healthy working teeth when doing orthodontics. 

 

Where I linked to that PDF, they seem to specialise in orthodontics without pulling the bicuspid teeth, http://www.orthodontic.ca    http://www.orthodontic.ca/FJOresults.pdf

 

Trends come and go, what they say in the PDF I linked to earlier http://www.orthodont...replacement.pdf is that removing the 2nd molars gives people a fuller mid face because of the wisdom teeth coming through. In the 80-90's people wanted that gaunt junkie look and now people want the fuller mid faced younger look. Dentists are probably hanging on to what they always knew as fact.

[icyT]

I regret not getting my 4 wisdoms removed back when I had a dental plan. I don't think I use them enough to be worth keeping Quick weight-loss strategy!

 

At one time they were even so weird that they were biting the inside of my cheeks. This stopped after a while, not sure why, maybe my jaw muscles adjusted to avoid it or something.

 

They're so far back I can't even reach them to do decent flossing and can't get a look at them. So if I ever get serious cavities there I'll have nothing against getting them removed.

 

Now if only I could save the gums of one of my front canines... just keep sinking. Time to get a gold pointer.