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Inalienable right to buy essential drugs without prescription?

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#31 rwac

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 02:52 PM

I'm afraid you're mistaken. Antibiotics are uncontrolled in India, and the country is shot full of antibiotic resistance. It's at epidemic levels, and is a real problem. I don't think it's coming from either hospitals or industrialized farming, both of which are more common here. Last year in India, 58,000 infants died of antibiotic resistant infections.

 
It's not that simple. No amount of antibiotics will make up for a lack of proper sanitation and nutrition. Antibiotics are basically the only tools available, and it's hard to blame people for resorting to them, given that food and sanitation are hard to fix for an individual.
 

Although resistant bugs are everywhere here, hospitals have become factories for untreatable “superbugs.” A government program that pays women to have babies in hospitals has in 10 years more than doubled the share of hospital-born babies to 82 percent, but the government did little to increase hospital capacity to deal with the crush. Maternity wards often have two and three women in each bed, allowing infections to spread rapidly.
Besides being desperately crowded, many hospitals are unhygienic, allowing the bugs to flourish. A Unicef survey of 94 district hospitals and health centers in Rajasthan last year found that 70 percent had possibly contaminated water and 78 percent had no soap available at hand-washing sinks, while 67 percent of toilets were unsanitary.


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#32 Danail Bulgaria

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 04:33 PM

No one outside those countries has to be passionate, that the people in these particular countries multiply uncontrollably and remain uneducated until the end of their life. What does it mean lack of proper sanitation and nutrition? How there will be a proper sanitation and nutrition if a country has the resources to feed for example 10 million people, and has 200 million? Imagine in your country the costs of food to rise 10 - 20 times or to become 10 times more unavailable. If they control their birth rate, they will not overpopulate their country, and will be fine. If really they behave like a cancer cells, that went out of control, the nutritional and the sanitation problems are entirely their problem. And if they breed antibiotics resistant strains, by using antibiotics for stupid things, and that resistant strains can travel around the world and infect people outside their country, then the logical step is to halt their antibiotics either. Not only, that they are still allowed to have antibiotics, but you are also not blaming them for having developed resistant microbes (that can infect your child for example) and for proceeding the breeding of even more resistant microbes, that can some day kill out the entire human race.


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Posted 09 December 2014 - 02:25 AM

 

I'm afraid you're mistaken. Antibiotics are uncontrolled in India, and the country is shot full of antibiotic resistance. It's at epidemic levels, and is a real problem. I don't think it's coming from either hospitals or industrialized farming, both of which are more common here. Last year in India, 58,000 infants died of antibiotic resistant infections.

 
It's not that simple. No amount of antibiotics will make up for a lack of proper sanitation and nutrition. Antibiotics are basically the only tools available, and it's hard to blame people for resorting to them, given that food and sanitation are hard to fix for an individual.

 

While India may be challenged in terms of sanitation and nutrition, neither of those things lead to antibiotic resistance.  That can only develop when antibiotics are used improperly.   If you can get antibiotics without any controls, it's very easy to use them improperly.  I would expect that to happen more often than not, if the users know nothing about medicine and are not counseled by anyone who does.



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#34 rwac

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 02:38 AM


 

While India may be challenged in terms of sanitation and nutrition, neither of those things lead to antibiotic resistance.  That can only develop when antibiotics are used improperly.   If you can get antibiotics without any controls, it's very easy to use them improperly.  I would expect that to happen more often than not, if the users know nothing about medicine and are not counseled by anyone who does.

 

 

Well, bad sanitation and nutrition lead to increased infections, and when the only tool you have is antibiotics that's what you use. You're looking at the problem from the wrong end, controls on antibiotics will merely make things harder for the common man.

 

Neither sanitation nor nutrition is rocket science, fixing them both will reduce infections as well as mortality from many causes.


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Posted 09 December 2014 - 03:10 AM

 

While India may be challenged in terms of sanitation and nutrition, neither of those things lead to antibiotic resistance.  That can only develop when antibiotics are used improperly.   If you can get antibiotics without any controls, it's very easy to use them improperly.  I would expect that to happen more often than not, if the users know nothing about medicine and are not counseled by anyone who does.

 

Well, bad sanitation and nutrition lead to increased infections, and when the only tool you have is antibiotics that's what you use. You're looking at the problem from the wrong end, controls on antibiotics will merely make things harder for the common man.

 

Neither sanitation nor nutrition is rocket science, fixing them both will reduce infections as well as mortality from many causes.

 

Using antibiotics properly (full course) doesn't lead to much resistance.  The biggest problem is people stopping the ABX as soon as they feel better.  Other problems are using the wrong ABX for the bug at hand.   Putting controls on them in a place where universal health care isn't available is going to be a death sentence to some people, but growing a nation full of multi-drug resistant bugs is going to be a death sentence to a different set of people.  This is a societal problem that is not going to be easy to solve, and it probably beyond the scope of this discussion.  I was mainly trying to refute xEva's claim that there are no problems from uncontrolled ABX use.



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Posted 18 December 2014 - 03:55 PM

Inhalers for asthma should be cheaper and more accessible.






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