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Do stimulants have the opposite effect of meditation?

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#1 newguy5

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 03:25 PM


Imo the way meditation works is, you learn how to focus on 1 particular thing, whenever you mind goes out of focus, wanders off, you are able to take it back to the task at hand. If you are having negative thoughts, you're able to block them out, to stop thinking at all or to think about something else. That's why meditation is good for your mental health. Of course this is assuming that you have done a lot of meditation to reap the rewards.

Basically you are able to switch tasks and change your thinking in a flexible way. If the thoughts you're having are negative you can switch to something else. If you're doing something unproductive you can switch to something more productive.

Seems to me like stimulants have a different effect, instead of making you be able to switch your thoughts at will, you basically get really focused on 1 particular thing, or on particular thoughts you're having at the moment. So you're not able to use your mind in a flexible way and change your task at hand.

For example: You're supposed to be studying for an exam, instead you're playing video games, you'll be really focused on the video game that you're playing and it will be hard to break that focus to start studying.

If you're thinking about something negative or maybe just thinking about things that are inconsequential, you'll keep thinking about them because you're so focused.

Does this actually teach your mind to be unflexible?

Does this make any sense? Any thoughts on this?


Edited by newguy5, 20 November 2014 - 03:52 PM.


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Posted 26 December 2014 - 11:40 AM

Good Sir, in fact with Stimulants, they remind you of the negative thoughts, if a person with real ADHD on Stimulants, and if they try to play video games, then they don't get any 'positive reinforcement' from their medication, meaning they won't be really able to focus on the video game because they know they have to study and do important things.

 

 

The other thing is, the folks without any real ADHD and are generally have no problems (no dyslexia,adhd,etc)... and when the folks that don't have any learning/etc problems (dyslexia,adhd,etc) take stimulants, they're just being dicks man.


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Posted 01 February 2015 - 09:11 AM

Good Sir, in fact with Stimulants, they remind you of the negative thoughts, if a person with real ADHD on Stimulants, and if they try to play video games, then they don't get any 'positive reinforcement' from their medication, meaning they won't be really able to focus on the video game because they know they have to study and do important things.

 

 

The other thing is, the folks without any real ADHD and are generally have no problems (no dyslexia,adhd,etc)... and when the folks that don't have any learning/etc problems (dyslexia,adhd,etc) take stimulants, they're just being dicks man.

My modafinil hasn't arrived yet so I don't know what the effects will be but let's take stimulants in general.
Imo the way meditation works is, you learn how to focus on 1 particular thing, whenever you mind goes out of focus, wanders off, you are able to take it back to the task at hand. If you are having negative thoughts, you're able to block them out, to stop thinking at all or to think about something else. That's why meditation is good for your mental health. Of course this is assuming that you have done a lot of meditation to reap the rewards.
Basically you are able to switch tasks and change your thinking in a flexible way. If the thoughts you're having are negative you can switch to something else. If you're doing something unproductive you can switch to something more productive.
Seems to me like stimulants have a different effect, instead of making you be able to switch your thoughts at will, you basically get focused on 1 particular thing, or on particular thoughts you're having at the moment. So you're not able to use your mind in a flexible way and change your task at hand.
For example: You're supposed to be studying for an exam, instead you're playing video games, you'll be really focused on the video game that you're playing and it will be hard to break that focus to start studying.
If you're thinking about something negative or maybe just thinking about things that are inconsequential, you'll keep thinking about them because you're so focused.
Does it actually teach your mind to be unflexible?
Does this make any sense? Any thoughts on this?
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