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A safe way to use Benzos?

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#31 TheBatman

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 09:12 AM

 

You should really try to get a seroquel prescription.. way safer than using a benzo. Essentially, seroquel reverses the effects of stimulants. 

 

No it doesn't. Quetiapine actually activates the adrenergic system, and you need high doses to block dopamine. But it's a strong antihistamine that will knock you out.

 

An endogenous fight-or-flight (which stimulants mimic) is finished and resolved with endogenous opiates to promote calm. But of course taking opioids for stimulant comedown is only going to make things worse long-term. I would take Rhodiola to increase beta-endorphins with your stimulant and it may also help reduce the dose needed. Then minimal benzo dose if really needed or an herbal alternative for calm.

 

 

Personally I also think the release of beta endorphin greatly potentiates an adderall dose, based off of my own experience and what i've heard from others. I just cant back it up with anything scientific. 

 

There is one user on these forums that swears he can get by using only 5 mg of adderall if he runs/walks a certain amount of miles everyday and that he has yet to see a tolerance build up after quite a while of doing this. 

 

I wasn't aware rhodiola increased beta-endorphins. Can you explain how?


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#32 Galaxyshock

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 04:21 PM

 

 

I wasn't aware rhodiola increased beta-endorphins. Can you explain how?

 

 

I believe it could either be a direct releaser through its stress-mimetic effect and/or acting through inhibiting enzymes such as enkephalinases.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/23192943

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/9324395

 

In my experience even when I feel I've built tolerance to Rhodiola, the effects suddenly come back again when exercising. It feels energizing and increases the endogenous feel-good euphoria of physical activity.



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