9 replies to this topic

[Jason30]

Hi all,

 

I am searching for help with my shortages. The following blood results are all negative (test is from a few months ago).

 

 

Glutathion (reduced version): 3.2 umol/l (decreased)

Molybdenum: 0.05 ug/l decreased (0.4 – 1.9)

Natrium: low (1793 mg/l)

Zinc: High (7.6 mg/l (5.3 – 6.5)

Zinc/copper ratio is high (21.5)

Copper decreased: 0.7 mg/l (0.7 – 1.3)

Vanadium decreased.

Manganese 14.3 (14-37)ug/l laag!

GABA: 3 umol/24u ( 7 - 35)

Methionine: 7 umol/24u (16-62)

Phenylalanine: 30 umol/24u (31 - 95)

Tyrosine: 36 umol/24u (40 - 168)

Phosphoethanolamine: 16 umol/24u (19 - 55)

1-methylhistidine: 973 umol/24u (128 - 392) (marker for leaky gut source)

 

I will take care of the glutathion, molybdeen and methionine at first.

I have no idea what to do with the other blood results, for example what to do with manganese and copper?

 

Looking forward to any advice/help.

 

 

[niner]

How much zinc are you taking?  You might be pushing your Cu and Mo down with Zn.

[Jason30]

Hi Niner, i was taking 25mg Zinc a day. I stopped taking Zinc a month ago.

[Dorian Grey]

Tea is the easiest way I know of to UP Manganese.  Plenty of it in there, and other health benefits as icing on the cake.  

 

For Copper, I would look to Chocolate, or find a micro-brewer who uses copper kettles to make beer.  Many happy hours spent on keeping my copper adequate this way.  Have a pizza with mushrooms (copper) with your copper brewed beer for best results.  

 

Fresh brewed coffee the morning after will also UP copper.  

Edited by synesthesia, 01 February 2015 - 10:49 PM.

[drew_ab]

Low methionine is interesting.  What kind of diet do you follow?

[Jason30]

Thanks Synesthesia. I take every morning a fresh brewed coffee. lol@the beer version. Unfortunately i don't like beer and pizza

Do you mean dark chocolate?

 

Drew_ab, yes i was also suprised that methionine, GABA and Tyrosine are low. I don't follow a diet. I eat pretty normal / healthy. I do have days that i skip a meal, but that's not often.

 

What about supplementing methionine, GABA and Tyrosine. Is this advisable?

And if so, i wonder if there is a supp available with all those 3 in it (a search in iherb failed)?

 

Edited by Jason30, 04 February 2015 - 01:59 PM.

[Jason30]

Specific question about raising glutathion through NAC.

 

I have read that NAC chelates copper out of your body. This is not good for me because i am low in copper. Is an extra copper supplement adviced?

 

[Skyguy2005]

Specific question about raising glutathion through NAC.

 

I have read that NAC chelates copper out of your body. This is not good for me because i am low in copper. Is an extra copper supplement adviced?

 

Just eat nuts? Great source of copper. Cashew Nuts have the most according to google.

 

People on this forum often say Copper is unhealthy... perhaps they are right about some form of supplement or unnatural thing, but I don't believe there is anything wrong with eating foods high in natural copper. Nuts mushrooms etc are great health foods.

Edited by Skyguy2005, 05 February 2015 - 07:19 PM.

[Skyguy2005]

Thanks Synesthesia. I take every morning a fresh brewed coffee. lol@the beer version. Unfortunately i don't like beer and pizza

Do you mean dark chocolate?

 

Drew_ab, yes i was also suprised that methionine, GABA and Tyrosine are low. I don't follow a diet. I eat pretty normal / healthy. I do have days that i skip a meal, but that's not often.

 

What about supplementing methionine, GABA and Tyrosine. Is this advisable?

And if so, i wonder if there is a supp available with all those 3 in it (a search in iherb failed)?

 

I think for people (not necessarily me) to help you, you need to elucidate the diet. Give some idea what foods you normally eat.

 

Rice

Noodles

Pasta

Meat

Fish

Green Veg

Starchy Veg

Other Veg

Beans

Nuts

Mushrooms

Grains

Fruits

Edited by Skyguy2005, 05 February 2015 - 07:23 PM.

[Jason30]

 

Specific question about raising glutathion through NAC.

 

I have read that NAC chelates copper out of your body. This is not good for me because i am low in copper. Is an extra copper supplement adviced?

 

Just eat nuts? Great source of copper. Cashew Nuts have the most according to google.

 

People on this forum often say Copper is unhealthy... perhaps they are right about some form of supplement or unnatural thing, but I don't believe there is anything wrong with eating foods high in natural copper. Nuts mushrooms etc are great health foods.

 

 

 

 

Thanks Synesthesia. I take every morning a fresh brewed coffee. lol@the beer version. Unfortunately i don't like beer and pizza

Do you mean dark chocolate?

 

Drew_ab, yes i was also suprised that methionine, GABA and Tyrosine are low. I don't follow a diet. I eat pretty normal / healthy. I do have days that i skip a meal, but that's not often.

 

What about supplementing methionine, GABA and Tyrosine. Is this advisable?

And if so, i wonder if there is a supp available with all those 3 in it (a search in iherb failed)?

 

I think for people (not necessarily me) to help you, you need to elucidate the diet. Give some idea what foods you normally eat.

 

Rice

Noodles

Pasta

Meat

Fish

Green Veg

Starchy Veg

Other Veg

Beans

Nuts

Mushrooms

Grains

Fruits

 

 

Thanks. I will look into foods which are rich in copper. Unfortunately i cannot take Cashew Nuts because they are high in histamine (i am a histadelic).

 

Hereby an overview of foods on a regular day:

 

morning:
celtic sea salt
2 slices of bread with chicken fillet
2 cup of black coffee

Later in the morning: shake with almond milk, blueberries and whey + vitamin c + oil of oregano

lunch: 2 crackers with chicken fillet.

In the afternoon: Soup or sandwich

Dinner:
Rice, potatoes, sometimes meat, fresh vegetable (broccoli, peas, beans, cauliflower)

Edited by Jason30, 09 February 2015 - 05:41 AM.