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[Grabbigagrabben]

Hi

 

I have been taking c60evoo for some time now, about 2 mg per day, sometimes every other day. Bought from vaughter wellness.

And i feel really sleepy, i sleep about 10h per night and experience some slight brain fog. but also a sense of calm. I do not experience the excess energy alot of you are reporting either. in fact the contrary..

i also feel a slight pain in the area of the heart from time to time.

 

Iam a swedish male 29yrs 

i exercise alot both running and weight lifting.

dont take any supplements except multivitamin eod and some omega 3 fatty acids.

healthy lifestyle.

mostly organic food.

 

i also wonder is there any research about c60evoo and fertility? i have red a few anecdotal reports and one about nano-particles that showed no concerns ..but thats it. 

 

It´s hard to believe that the sleep issues is only a cause of the placebo effect... somebody else have this problem?

[AdamI]

I'm a Swede as well, and I think u just have a defeciet of D vitamin, it's winter and all u know

Try 10 000 IU with food for a month and see how u feel, if u have a defeceit in d vitamin and still work out you would have noticed ur testorones have dropped as well since u need D vitmian for that. Is the drive lower as well?

 

Curcumin 95% pure 0,5-1 gram per day with food is also good if u want to be more sharp and not get brain fog. Nicotine is also work for that, 0,5 mg to 1 mg a day worked wonders for me. (takes a half 1 mg tablett twice a day)

[renfr]

The first day I used C60 I had extreme fatigue, the same fatigue I usually have after a very large meal. I slept like a rock : 13 hours of continuous sleep.

But it fastly resolved and subsided overtime.

I guess the fatigue is a sign that you're healing and healing takes a lot of resources hence why you feel fatigued.
Either wait for a while or either lower your dose.

 

I don't know about fertility but C60 gives me a great libido.

[niner]

Other people have reported feeling sleepy the first time they used it.  In all cases, it resolved quickly.  We've had at least one other person report that c60 made him sleep a lot.  He had a pretty hard core lifestyle, and probably needed the rest, for what it's worth.  Regarding fertility, we have some anecdotal evidence that c60oo can help older women conceive.  Eggs need healthy mitochondria in order to function properly, and c60oo appears to improve  mitochondrial function.

[cuprous]

See this thread for other reports of c60-induced sleepiness.  http://www.longecity...p-all-the-time/

 

I feel I also experienced this somnolence but it has passed.  We don't have a good theory as to why this happens.  The optimistic take is that your body's healing mechanisms have been switched on and consequently you're ordered to bed so it can do its thing.  But there could of course be argument for deleterious origins. 

[Turnbuckle]

I wonder if this is the result of low blood sugar, which is in turn the result of increased mitochondrial activity?

[MarianVB]

I have had alarming increase in fatigue and brain fog after only one dose of C60. I feel it is not at all a sign of healing, but rather a sign that something is quite wrong. In my case there might be an interaction with other meds. I already had depersonalisation issues in response to Ciprofloxacin (half a year ago) and haloperidol (tiny dose) and seem to respond quite strongly to all sorts of meds ever since I have used Cipro. Still I think it's a signal to take seriously. Maybe the side effects are more acute and pronounced in me, but the same type of response takes place in others in a more subtle way.

Edited by MarianVB, 08 May 2015 - 02:09 PM.

[bixbyte]

Sounds you you are having normal pains from your work out.

Maybe you could take it easy on your body for a couple days and lift less or run less.

Then your body will become stronger as the pain fades.

I think your problems maybe you expected the C60 to make you into an athlete

and you over exerted yourself.

 

Take it easy, like my father in law always said, "Listen to your body" 

[niner]

Bix, Marian IS listening to her body, and it's telling her that she feels lousy.   You need to read her other posts for the full report.

[bixbyte]

Bix, Marian IS listening to her body, and it's telling her that she feels lousy.   You need to read her other posts for the full report.

 

 

 

 

Hi

 

swedish male 29 yrs signing in. 

184 cm.

74 kg.

 

stockholm.

sweden.

 

currently on a daily 1,5mg c60 bought from vaughter wellness.

Iam a swedish male 29yrs 

i exercise alot both running and weight lifting.

dont take any supplements except multivitamin eod and some omega 3 fatty acids.

healthy lifestyle.

mostly organic food.

 

 

 

I have been taking c60evoo for some time now, about 2 mg per day, sometimes every other day. Bought from vaughter wellness.

And i feel really sleepy, i sleep about 10h per night and experience some slight brain fog. but also a sense of calm. I do not experience the excess energy alot of you are reporting either. in fact the contrary..

i also feel a slight pain in the area of the heart from time to time.

 

 

 

Dear Niner she says she is a Male.

And I think he is working too much and having muscle aches in his chest from too much working or exertion. 

But I could suggest seeing a Physician if there is any coronary issues in the family.

[niner]

 

Bix, Marian IS listening to her body, and it's telling her that she feels lousy.   You need to read her other posts for the full report.

 

swedish male 29 yrs signing in.

 

Dear Niner she says she is a Male.

And I think he is working too much and having muscle aches in his chest from too much working or exertion. 

But I could suggest seeing a Physician if there is any coronary issues in the family.

 

Well, now you're quoting the post from grabbigagrabben.  Since you didn't quote anyone in your previous post, I thought you were responding to MarianVB, the previous poster.

[Adamzski]

Hi I had extreme sleeping in one of my periods of C60 use http://www.longecity...p-all-the-time/

 

It was extreme sleeping especially for an insomniac like me. 

 

There is a great chance it was the C60 at that time making me sleep like that as I have never slept like that in my life. I have taken a single bottle of C60 at the regular dose, 5 times in total. The time of my extreme sleeping was when I did 2 consecutive months of C60 the only time I have used it more than 30 days.

 

Prior to this I had been working extremely hard finishing development of my software product for 5-6 months, skipping sleep or sleeping 2-5hrs a night with the occasional crash of 7hrs sleep. I had finished a massive task and felt great, my mind had been ocupied by my development 24/7 for the previous 6 months. 

So I cant say for sure it was the C60 but yes it seems impossible for me to be able to sleep like that.

 

Have since done another 2 bottles of it over the last year. Have not had these effects again except for around last christmas when I knew nobody would be calling me I had a decent period of rest some 14+hr days of sleep.

 

These days with no C60 in over 4 months I can sleep on planes as I'm usually exhausted but no way I could sleep more than 10hrs anywhere, very little chance of even sleeping 7hrs. As soon as I wake to go to the toilet or from being disturbed, My mind starts ticking over and its action stations..

[niner]

Hi I had extreme sleeping in one of my periods of C60 use http://www.longecity...p-all-the-time/

 

It was extreme sleeping especially for an insomniac like me. 

 

There is a great chance it was the C60 at that time making me sleep like that as I have never slept like that in my life. I have taken a single bottle of C60 at the regular dose, 5 times in total. The time of my extreme sleeping was when I did 2 consecutive months of C60 the only time I have used it more than 30 days.

 

Prior to this I had been working extremely hard finishing development of my software product for 5-6 months, skipping sleep or sleeping 2-5hrs a night with the occasional crash of 7hrs sleep. I had finished a massive task and felt great, my mind had been ocupied by my development 24/7 for the previous 6 months. 

So I cant say for sure it was the C60 but yes it seems impossible for me to be able to sleep like that.

 

Have since done another 2 bottles of it over the last year. Have not had these effects again except for around last christmas when I knew nobody would be calling me I had a decent period of rest some 14+hr days of sleep.

 

So with c60 you slept a lot when you were working really hard, then later, with a more relaxed schdule, c60 didn't make you sleep?  Other than a period where you were completely free of work responsibilities?    This sounds like a good thing, in terms of your health.  Do you feel like now you could use c60 without any sleep abnormality?

[Adamzski]

Hi yes after my long period of months of hard work, when it was over I could sleep and could not fight sleep, I was drawn into bed with no power to keep going and no care for what the consequences of not finishing a task might be. I was not complettly free of work responsibilities but knew that all the challenges had been overcome and I just had to keep things running smoothly.

 

I have in this last 6 months done a single month of C60 without the effects of not being able to fight sleep.

 

It was great for me, would like to have a month like this every year where I really recharge, I spose thats what normal people call a holiday.

[RickyFitts76]

I'm curious about why c60 went from such a postive to negative response within my body over time. I have been researching other sod2 mimics as i do have that gene SNP. Please forgive my mistakes in correct labels or anything else when i'm trying to explain things. I have a brain injury from anti depressants as well as chronic fatigue and brain fog. I do ok if i'm typing my thoughts out but i will probably be way off a lot while using this forum. 

Anyway, i recall early on in my descend into chronic fatigue one of my tests saying my iron levels where really high. I remember thinking that was strange at the time as i didn't eat a lot of meat and even had a stint being vegan trying to see if that helped my fatigue. Fast forward 8yrs and after doing my23andme test one of the recommedations for something that came up was manganese supplementation. I started that sometime towards the end of 2017 maybe. Christmas day i begun  taking c60 and had a positive response straight away. Energy, mood, cognitve ability. This had happened before earlier in the year but after two or three days it started making me tired. Well this time, i took it daily for 8wks and had a great summer hear in australia. So much fun after being so

limited for so long due to my health. I also could drink beer like a sailor without consequences it seemed, which was totally new in my 41yrs. But after a while i started to not feel the same. Energy, mood etc faded and then after a couple weeks, even taking 1ml would have a very energy and mood zapping response. I was taking 5ml previously no probs. I would space out my use, increaseing each time by a further day. Eventually i got up to 2wks break and gave up. Was over the 3day consequences each time. But now thinking back, i recall i was supplementing with manganese during this time on c60 and leading up to it, and haven't any other time. I don't know how long exactly afterwards but it would have been no  more than 3wks from when i ran out of manganese, the c60 stopped giving positive results and became increasingly negative. 

I'm no scientist, have zero education, just a guy trying to work this shit out and have some quality of life. I know there's a relationship and interaction between iron and manganese in the body, and i know that the sod2 pathway has manganese as a key part of it. I don't understand it fully but i believe the superoxide is the metabolic waste from energy production in the mitochondria. I and a percentage of others who have the sod2 polymorphism snp have significant less ability to produce the enzyme to deal with this and other oxidive stresses. A domino effect of other issues can and does happen but won't list. So, c60 seems to be one of the few things that mimic the action and roll of this enzyme which felt amazing to me. I've searched online a lot this weekend for anything that might explain this hunch or suspicion to be possible and ive come across this one here.  http://www.jbc.org/c...4/34/22633.full

I can type pretty well, my injury doesn't affect that too much. But my working memory has been smashed so reading is a real strain. I was hoping someone who has a personal interest and shared similar experience with c60 could take a look at it and tell me what they think. Of course i'm hoping it might ultimately be the answer to this strange problem with c60 we're having, but also know good chance there isn't and apologies in advance if it's just a waste of time.

I know i can just start supplmenting with manganese again to know, but it's the weekend and i can only get it to me online which may take close to a week to arrive. Even longer to build up in my system. In meantime, can't hurt to rule out a theory.

cheers.