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Posted 04 November 2015 - 02:03 PM
In my case I was taking it to speed the healing of some nagging injuries and I was pleased with the results. So, it wasn't a question of longevity.
I'm undecided on the issue of raising levels to more youthful levels, it's really a quality v. quantity decision. In any event, short term MK-77 seems pretty mild compared to even the lowest doses of HGH bodybuilders take.
What was your dosage? I'm going to go low and take days off, more deep sleep is what I'm after.
Posted 06 November 2015 - 04:23 AM
I was able to feel improved sleep quality both 10mg and 20mg doses, both taken with 5mg to 10mg of Melatonin.
I took a few doses in the 30mg to 40mg range and didn't notice any difference except for more water retention in my hands, which I took as a sign of increased efficacy but I wasn't taking it as a body building aid.
It's pretty affordable if you can find powder and make your own solution with Everclear.
Posted 25 January 2016 - 06:52 PM
Posted 26 January 2016 - 05:21 PM
so i took last nights 12.5mg in the afternoon instead. had a great sleep. i think i was taking it to late at night. also thinking that i will swap it to the morning (watched a good informative video on youtube)
sucks that my rats liquid mk-677 appears to be held in customs in switzerland of all places .. unreal
cheers.
Edited by PA123, 26 January 2016 - 05:22 PM.
Posted 07 February 2016 - 08:57 AM
MK677 return HGH to youth levels, for a young person is probably useless if the goal is to achieve supra physiological values (like for bodybuilders for example).
A whole different matter is for the elderly or not so young subject whom wishes to counter aging unpleasant effects, in this case MK677 seems a very interesting compound which mimics very closely in its outcomes what naturally happens with little or negligible side effects.
Posted 10 February 2016 - 03:30 PM
It so popular because you don't need a needle and you can reconstitute it with ethanol for a very reasonable price per dose.
Plus, it does help us geezers, even if the main benefits stem from improved sleep.
And let's face it, if you are talking GHRH/GHRP, why not just HGH? I'm curious...
Then once you start talking HGH it's kind of a waste without running a cycle too. Lol...
Posted 11 February 2016 - 04:16 AM
What does GH release
and
What does GHRH/GHRP release.
tell me first...
It so popular because you don't need a needle and you can reconstitute it with ethanol for a very reasonable price per dose.
Plus, it does help us geezers, even if the main benefits stem from improved sleep.
And let's face it, if you are talking GHRH/GHRP, why not just HGH? I'm curious...
Then once you start talking HGH it's kind of a waste without running a cycle too. Lol...
Posted 11 February 2016 - 07:18 PM
Ok, so let's see all your blood labs pre and post MK677 for IGF1. Otherwise all I'm hearing is placebo, placebo, placebo. I posted my pre and post lab work for CJC1295 w/DAC in the bioscience section last week and showed a 53% increase in IGF1 over the pre blood work. Anyone care to do the same?
Edited by Rocket, 11 February 2016 - 07:19 PM.
Posted 12 February 2016 - 03:36 PM
What's the best option to stop some prolactin issues
What prolactin issues? Is someone on nandrolone or trenbolone? I am not aware of any GH secretogogues that raise prolactin. If someone has prolactin issues, I like liquid prami before bed as it helps with sleep.
Posted 13 February 2016 - 03:36 AM
GHRH/GHRP ~> release endogenously
HGH ~> exogenously.
HGH would give you that nasty organ growth and such. not the GHRH/GHRP. So you don't say F*** it and take HGH.. Besides Pharma HGH is often faked and too expensive.
Ive taken "Pharma" (under a doctors care) HGH and MK-677 and I disagree with your assumption that its worthless. There is too much literature out there (the double blind placebo type) that shows Mk-677 is very effective.
Posted 15 February 2016 - 03:39 PM
GHRH/GHRP ~> release endogenously
HGH ~> exogenously.
HGH would give you that nasty organ growth and such. not the GHRH/GHRP. So you don't say F*** it and take HGH.. Besides Pharma HGH is often faked and too expensive.
Ive taken "Pharma" (under a doctors care) HGH and MK-677 and I disagree with your assumption that its worthless. There is too much literature out there (the double blind placebo type) that shows Mk-677 is very effective.
The kinds of research chems that are available for sale don't measure up to real pharmaceuticals. Where are your pre and post blood labs on MK677? Otherwise you have no idea if it effectively raised your GH. I was on an anonymous brands (and well known) CJC1295 w/DAC at 5mg EW. It gave me a 53% increase in GH based on my blood labs. REAL pharmaceutical CJC1295 would have doubled my GH levels.
So unless you you get pre and post labs on your MK677, it may very well be worthless, and you may be throwing money out the window on a placebo effect. If you or anyone is going to spend hundreds of dollars for "supplements" over months and months, do yourself a favor and get pre and post labs.
Edited by Rocket, 15 February 2016 - 03:43 PM.
Posted 15 February 2016 - 07:12 PM
Not mk-677 or CJC1295, but here in the US you can purchase GHRP-2 / Sermorelin Acetate (also available with GHRP6) from a compounding pharmacy with a prescription.
I recently finished up an 80 day protocol injecting a GHRP-2/Sermorelin Acetate combination at a rate of 300mcg/GHRP-2 and 300mcg/Sermorelin Acetate per day.
The lab work results: Beginning IGF1 104 ng/mL and afterwards 130 ng/mL. The range for my age group (55) was 72 - 248.
The benefits for the most part were subtle. My sleep needs increased by a couple of hours, with the quality of sleep increasing. There was an increase in hunger within 20 minutes after injection which I attribute to the GHRP-2 (GHRP-6 apparently increases hunger even more). I controlled the hunger by injecting right before bedtime.
One very positive effect was my joints. For years I have been unable to sit on a hard surface without being very stiff after rising. Sometime around month two, I noticed that my hips were no longer bothering me.
One potential side effect was that my ALT more than doubled. I am not sure if this is attributable to the GHRP-2/Sermorelin or not. My HbA1C took a bump up also.
I did not see any impacts to my skin. I have decided not to continue until my ALT scores return to normal range.
Posted 15 February 2016 - 10:05 PM
The kinds of research chems that are available for sale don't measure up to real pharmaceuticals
This is a good point, in my view is not that MK677 doesn't work or is not up to other HGH increasing compounds, there is sound research out there showing that it does work actually very well.
The issue here is that research compounds are manufactured almost exclusively in China, probably because patents reasons too.
Not that Chinese are not able to manufacture up to standard compounds but these are usually made by small laboratories where quality is not always guaranteed, for the importer/seller to test every batch is kind of expensive and chances that some poor quality product ends up in the market are probably not so slim.
I think much depends by the kind of research compound too: they are not all the same to manufacture, some are easy and some are not, the easy one probably are usually quite decent, the not so easy probably are often a bit shaky.
From what I read around it seems MK677 is usually quite reliable, maybe not at the same quality as that used in research but acceptable.
Posted 15 February 2016 - 10:22 PM
GHRH/GHRP ~> release endogenously
HGH ~> exogenously.
HGH would give you that nasty organ growth and such. not the GHRH/GHRP. So you don't say F*** it and take HGH.. Besides Pharma HGH is often faked and too expensive.
Would you recommend GHRH/GHRP over anabolic steroids?
@aconita
You are exactly right.
Posted 16 February 2016 - 02:32 AM
Not mk-677 or CJC1295, but here in the US you can purchase GHRP-2 / Sermorelin Acetate (also available with GHRP6) from a compounding pharmacy with a prescription.
I recently finished up an 80 day protocol injecting a GHRP-2/Sermorelin Acetate combination at a rate of 300mcg/GHRP-2 and 300mcg/Sermorelin Acetate per day.
The lab work results: Beginning IGF1 104 ng/mL and afterwards 130 ng/mL. The range for my age group (55) was 72 - 248.
The benefits for the most part were subtle. My sleep needs increased by a couple of hours, with the quality of sleep increasing. There was an increase in hunger within 20 minutes after injection which I attribute to the GHRP-2 (GHRP-6 apparently increases hunger even more). I controlled the hunger by injecting right before bedtime.
One very positive effect was my joints. For years I have been unable to sit on a hard surface without being very stiff after rising. Sometime around month two, I noticed that my hips were no longer bothering me.
One potential side effect was that my ALT more than doubled. I am not sure if this is attributable to the GHRP-2/Sermorelin or not. My HbA1C took a bump up also.
I did not see any impacts to my skin. I have decided not to continue until my ALT scores return to normal range.
Posted 16 February 2016 - 02:09 PM
Not mk-677 or CJC1295, but here in the US you can purchase GHRP-2 / Sermorelin Acetate (also available with GHRP6) from a compounding pharmacy with a prescription.
I recently finished up an 80 day protocol injecting a GHRP-2/Sermorelin Acetate combination at a rate of 300mcg/GHRP-2 and 300mcg/Sermorelin Acetate per day.
The lab work results: Beginning IGF1 104 ng/mL and afterwards 130 ng/mL. The range for my age group (55) was 72 - 248.
The benefits for the most part were subtle. My sleep needs increased by a couple of hours, with the quality of sleep increasing. There was an increase in hunger within 20 minutes after injection which I attribute to the GHRP-2 (GHRP-6 apparently increases hunger even more). I controlled the hunger by injecting right before bedtime.
One very positive effect was my joints. For years I have been unable to sit on a hard surface without being very stiff after rising. Sometime around month two, I noticed that my hips were no longer bothering me.
One potential side effect was that my ALT more than doubled. I am not sure if this is attributable to the GHRP-2/Sermorelin or not. My HbA1C took a bump up also.
I did not see any impacts to my skin. I have decided not to continue until my ALT scores return to normal range.
Wow. You would be better off with cjc1295 with dac at 5mg. You would be over 150 with 1 weekly injection. If you could afford 10mg you would be in the 200s with 2 weekly injections.
Yea, not much benefit for doing daily injections. I would consider cjc1295 if I could find a compounding pharmacy to fill a prescription. I am uneasy using "research grade" chemicals. If I cannot find pharmaceutical cjc1295, I may go with HGH as I can get a prescription for that.
Posted 18 February 2016 - 07:14 AM
GHRH/GHRP ~> release endogenously
HGH ~> exogenously.
HGH would give you that nasty organ growth and such. not the GHRH/GHRP. So you don't say F*** it and take HGH.. Besides Pharma HGH is often faked and too expensive.
Ive taken "Pharma" (under a doctors care) HGH and MK-677 and I disagree with your assumption that its worthless. There is too much literature out there (the double blind placebo type) that shows Mk-677 is very effective.
The kinds of research chems that are available for sale don't measure up to real pharmaceuticals. Where are your pre and post blood labs on MK677? Otherwise you have no idea if it effectively raised your GH. I was on an anonymous brands (and well known) CJC1295 w/DAC at 5mg EW. It gave me a 53% increase in GH based on my blood labs. REAL pharmaceutical CJC1295 would have doubled my GH levels.
So unless you you get pre and post labs on your MK677, it may very well be worthless, and you may be throwing money out the window on a placebo effect. If you or anyone is going to spend hundreds of dollars for "supplements" over months and months, do yourself a favor and get pre and post labs.
Yeah feel free to kick in $ to for my labs and Ill gladly post them up. Even if Mk677 did nothing but make me sleep longer and deeper Id still take it, for just that reason. I don't give a rats ass what your labs may or may not tell you sleeping deeper and longer is performance enhancing
Posted 24 May 2016 - 02:32 AM
Posted 24 May 2016 - 07:17 AM
Started taking mk-677 to see what effects I'd get. So far, the best one IMO is more energy. I was feeling like a lethargic old man and I'm not that old. Mk-677 has made a big difference in how I feel so for this reason, I'll continue taking it.
WHat is your dosage? Taking any days off?
Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:52 PM
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