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[mak1]

Hello,

 

I've been doing quite a lot of research into racetams but can't decide on which racetam is best for revision & exams, more specifically for memory retention/recall etc.

 

I've looked at the following (which has been suggested to take with a choline source):

• Oxiracetam
• Noopept
• Phenylpiracetam
• Pramiracetam

 

My question is, which one do you believe would be best for memory? My exams are in a month and I'd like to try something to help me retain/recall information. 

 

Your advice would be highly appreciated, even if you have not tried any of the above.

 

Many thanks,

Mak

Edited by mak1, 27 March 2015 - 04:58 PM.

[JmareK]

Oxiracetam was shown to be best for memory recall and memory capacity increase. I think the most optimal is 600mg every 6 hours or so in combination with at least 1gr of Choline Bitartrate. You can read up on it here http://nootopics.com...racetam-dosage/

that is if memory is your only concern. So it would make sense using while you are studying. But during exam, factors such as anxiety can completely block your memory. Therefore, you need to think of anxiety relief as well. If you tend to get nervous during exams, I would use phenibut or picamilon to chill and recall all that oxiracetam boosted memory.

Noopept tends to make some people sleepy and lethargic.

Phenylpiracetam and pramiracetam tends to provide better mood and motivation, which is also a factor when trying to study. These are my personal favorites as I find that I get the most done with anything closely related to piracetam, if I don't have piracetam at hand.

[Fenix_]

Racetams seem to be more like mental stimulants, which might put you "in the zone" when you take them. Don't expect much of a permanent effect on memory recall if any. That being said, noopept has been shown to have some neurotrophic action which could lead to some lasting positive effects.

Edited by Fenix_, 09 April 2015 - 04:42 PM.

[mak1]

Thank you for your replies.

 

I've decided to go with Huperzine A (Source Naturals; 200mcg). Have any of you tried this, would be great to hear how it helped (or didn't) if you took it. 

 

I'm going to be taking 1x200mcg tablet a day (with a 2 day break on weekends - is this advisable?).

 

Thank you

[Grandmaster]

I took Huperzine A (also from Source naturals 120x100MCG, and about 200 mcg daily) last year for 2 months and i think that it has improved my memory(rather short term memory), maybe i gonna buy it again. The best effect i got from using it was remembering my every dream(i got some lucid dreams).

[Izan]

I took Huperzine A (also from Source naturals 120x100MCG, and about 200 mcg daily) last year for 2 months and i think that it has improved my memory(rather short term memory), maybe i gonna buy it again. The best effect i got from using it was remembering my every dream(i got some lucid dreams).

did the effects last, after discontinuation?

Edited by izan82, 14 April 2015 - 06:32 PM.

[Grandmaster]

Lucid doses didnt but slight memory improvement did last.

[Archon1]

I have a stack I am wanting to try, after doing more research I removed Vinpocetine and Huperzine A.

So heres what I have left :

 

Uridine Monophosphate Powder - 25 Grams

Noopept - 5 Grams

Alpha-GPC 50% - 10 Grams

Micro Scoops 10 mg - 5 Scoops

Acetyl L-Carnitine Powder (ALCAR) - 50 grams

Alpha-Lipoic Acid - 25 Grams

Omega-3 Fish Oil Capsules (100ct) - 100 Capsules

Lion's Mane Mushroom 10:1 Extract 30% Polysaccharide - 25 Grams

L-Theanine Powder - 20 Grams

 

Are these all ok to be taken together? I am doing a lot of studying, Finance, the markets, Astro/Quantum Physics. So I do have a reason to look for something to help me out.

 

Would like to hear any other opinions on what supplements are the best, with no worry of negative side effects.

I like all in one supplements, that are good for everything. I take spirulina, wheatgrass, moringa, red maca, ashwaganda, bacopa, coconut oil, chia seeds, pumpkin seeds, raw cacao.

[Archon1]

After much research this is my modified stack:

 

Shilajit Powder
Omega-3 Fish Oil
Longjack 100:1 Root Extract (Tongkat Ali)
Lion's Mane Mushroom 10:1 Extract 30% Polysaccharide
Bacopa Monnieri 20% Bacosides
Resveratrol Supplement 99% (Trans-Resveratrol)
Curcumin 95% (Turmeric Extract)
Piperine 99% (Piper Nigrum) Black Pepper Fruit
Rhodiola Rosea (Salidroside 3%)
Schizandrol A (3% Schisandrin)
Noopept
Uridine Monophosphate
Alpha-GPC 50%
Acetyl L-Carnitine Powder (ALCAR)
Alpha-Lipoic Acid
L-Theanine Powder
L-Glycine FFA

 

I think this stack is going to be very promising. I havent yet worked out the dosing, but I believe they can all be taken at the same time at their lowest recommended dosage. Except for the Glycine, which would be taken before bed.

Half of this stack would be taken twice a day, while the nootropics would probably be taken just once in the morning. I would love to hear any commentary/advice regarding this stack.

[sparkk51]

I don't mean to steer this thread but are there any me studies that indicate piracetam stimulates hemispheric communication beside the right ear language processing test? I feel that test isn't as indicative as I'd like.

[LongLife]

I have a stack I am wanting to try, after doing more research I removed Vinpocetine and Huperzine A.

So heres what I have left :

 

Uridine Monophosphate Powder - 25 Grams

Noopept - 5 Grams

Alpha-GPC 50% - 10 Grams

Micro Scoops 10 mg - 5 Scoops

Acetyl L-Carnitine Powder (ALCAR) - 50 grams

Alpha-Lipoic Acid - 25 Grams

Omega-3 Fish Oil Capsules (100ct) - 100 Capsules

Lion's Mane Mushroom 10:1 Extract 30% Polysaccharide - 25 Grams

L-Theanine Powder - 20 Grams

 

Are these all ok to be taken together? I am doing a lot of studying, Finance, the markets, Astro/Quantum Physics. So I do have a reason to look for something to help me out.

 

Would like to hear any other opinions on what supplements are the best, with no worry of negative side effects.

I like all in one supplements, that are good for everything. I take spirulina, wheatgrass, moringa, red maca, ashwaganda, bacopa, coconut oil, chia seeds, pumpkin seeds, raw cacao.

Archon1: Why did you decide to dump the Vinpocetine & Huperzine A?

[William Sterog]

Thank you for your replies.

 

I've decided to go with Huperzine A (Source Naturals; 200mcg). Have any of you tried this, would be great to hear how it helped (or didn't) if you took it. 

 

I'm going to be taking 1x200mcg tablet a day (with a 2 day break on weekends - is this advisable?).

 

Thank you

 

If you want an herbal solution, you may wanna try Bacopa, I think that it has the better evidence on increasing memory formation.

 

Bacopa monniera leaf extract up-regulates tryptophan hydroxylase (TPH2) and serotonin transporter (SERT) expression: implications in memory formation.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/21129470

 

The results suggest that BMEE treatment significantly enhances the learning and retention of memory in postnatal rats possibly through regulating the expression of TPH2, 5-HT metabolism and transport.

 

Chronic effects of Brahmi (Bacopa monnieri) on human memory.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/12093601

 

The results show a significant effect of the Brahmi on a test for the retention of new information. Follow-up tests showed that the rate of learning was unaffected, suggesting that Brahmi decreases the rate of forgetting of newly acquired information. 

 

 

Does Bacopa monnieri improve memory performance in older persons? Results of a randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind trial.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/20590480

 

Bacopa significantly improved memory acquisition and retention in healthy older Australians. This concurs with previous findings and traditional use.

 

 

Examining the nootropic effects of a special extract of Bacopa monniera on human cognitive functioning: 90 day double-blind placebo-controlled randomized trial.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/18683852

 

The Bacopa monniera product significantly improved performance on the 'Working Memory' factor, more specifically spatial working memory accuracy. 

 

 

 

Randomized controlled trial of standardized Bacopa monniera extract in age-associated memory impairment.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/20703343

 

SBME is efficacious in subjects with age-associated memory impairment.

Edited by William Sterog, 20 March 2016 - 08:45 AM.