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[mikey]

C60oo reverses some aspects of ageing. Other compounds work, too.

However, from what I gather, none of these reverse or repair the mechanical problems caused by calcification.

 

For instance, foraminal narrowing with osteophytes are apparently pinching a nerve or nerves that cause parasthesia (irritating numbness and tingling) in my left hand.

 

Cervical scans show 3 levels of foraminal narrowing with osteophytes.

 

Most likely this started with a whiplash car accident 37 years ago. 

 

I'm attempting to "melt" the osteophytes and regress the calcification, using chanca piedra (translated: stone breaker), apple cider vinegar, a homeopathic protocol by a 30+ year homeopathic doctor, a Chinese herb formula called Kang Gu Zeng Sheng Pian (Boneven), high-dose vinpocetin and daily traction.

 

I refused to do the triple fusion recommended by a neural surgeon. That wouldn't be good for living another 62 years+ in good health.

 

There must be another way. Any ideas are welcome.

[Mind]

I got the same thing.

 

"No easy/guaranteed cure" from my doctor.

 

She suggested physical therapy. Other people say traction (stretching your spine) helps.

Edited by Mind, 02 May 2015 - 09:50 AM.

[mikey]

My best neurologist said that it is possible to reverse osteophytes if pressure/rubbing is removed, meaning a 12-pound water bag for traction 30 - 60 minutes a day, pulling my head up. He equates osteophytes and foraminal narrowing with being like calluses or bruises on the bone. Remove the irritant and the "calluses" diminish.

 

All the things I listed above have some credible data to support their utility, while the Chinese formula is based on thousands of years of successful healing.

 

Further, I am experimenting with nootropics that have analgesic properties, such as aniracetam and nefiracetam, with some success, just so that the parasthesia doesn't limit my ability to focus at work.

 

Dr. Asa Hershoff, a long-time homeopathic doctor, who was recommended by a very credible source, told me that he has successfully treated a number of patients that had worse problems than I, during his ~30 year practice.

 

My experience is that things considered to be "medical impossible" have happened to me and I've documented them with third party verification, so this could be another one.

 

This is the largest hurdle of my life, but I must trump if I am to not live with pain, live long, and have fun living.

 

Currently, I've been able to reduce the parasthesia to be about half as irritating as it was a year or so ago.

 

Also, not to preach, but conventional medical doctors can be assets. However, prudence dictates carefully analyzing their thoughts/prescriptions, because the American medical paradigm is primarily profit-oriented, rather than putting our optimal health as the first consideration.

[zorba990]

b12
http://members.upnaw...ers of B12.html
k2
http://chriskresser....ssing-nutrient/

Just oral b12 cured elbow bursitis for me years ago, I still take it intranasally or sublingually.
I take Koncentrated K for Cardiac prevention but I suspect it would help this also when used with Vitamin D3, etc

[mikey]

b12
http://members.upnaw...ers of B12.html
k2
http://chriskresser....ssing-nutrient/

Just oral b12 cured elbow bursitis for me years ago, I still take it intranasally or sublingually.
I take Koncentrated K for Cardiac prevention but I suspect it would help this also when used with Vitamin D3, etc

 

I've been taking B12 for years and my blood measurement shows it.

 

I've been taking 300 mcg of vitamin K2 (MK-7) for a couple years.

 

It's more complex than these two nutrients, although they're both important nutrients.

[lourdaud]

I have similar problems (and I'm only in my mid-twenties ).

I think it may be worthwhile to see an experienced acupuncturist. From what I've heard, osteophytes/bone bridging can sometimes be broken up by correct spinal manipulation and acupuncture.

[zorba990]

Have you considred gallium nitrate?
http://gallium-nitra.../arthritis.html

[mikey]

Have you considred gallium nitrate?
http://gallium-nitra.../arthritis.html

 

Gallium is for arthritis. There's no mention of osteophytes/bone spurs in that link.

 

Thanks, though.

[mikey]

I have similar problems (and I'm only in my mid-twenties ).

I think it may be worthwhile to see an experienced acupuncturist. From what I've heard, osteophytes/bone bridging can sometimes be broken up by correct spinal manipulation and acupuncture.

 

I've had many acupuncture treatments from the best. They can help nudge along changes in the body, sometimes significantly, and may have value in "dissolving" bone spurs, but I didn't experience relief after a number of sessions.

 

 

The protocol I'm using now seems to be causing a slowly growing reduction in the parasthesia caused by the calcification. Of course, everything takes time, especially something that is out of the realm of conventional medicine.

 

I would not allow a chiropractor to crack my neck - spinal manipulation - as that might actually increase the potential for calcification, which some theorize is caused by "bruising" of the bone, as if the bone spurs formed like calluses.

 

I'm limiting my physical movements to long walks, stretching exercises and yoga. Nothing that is a sharp movement or high intensity. 

[Skunkdaddy]

I'm glad that you didn't overlook.the obvious vit k2 but how is your intestinal flora? Kefir, predigested with bromelain, is quite good as source of calcium with amino acids to keep intra Ca+ solubilized as well. There are other activated forms of vit K from copper-related enzymes not to mention the immune benefits of good gut health.

I'm currently trying to regenerate nerves, tendons, and bones with similar approach while adding hyaluronic acid. I am on this iPad for now but will research your protocol above. You're sharp for all of 62 yrs, ha.

- Michael

[mikey]

My intestinal flora as excellent. I regularly take VSL#3, which is the most potent medical grade probiotic that exists, brewer's yeast, lecithin, as well as eat organic produce in soups daily.

 

VSL#3 does amazing things for not only gut but the entire GI tract, as it is a powder one takes in the mouth, so its effects begin in the mouth and traverse the entire GI tract.

 

I'm experiencing progress and am looking forward to success, but over time. The problems didn't happen overnight so it can take time to reverse them.

Also, I'm being quite careful about calcium intake, as I try to shrink bone to shrink osteophytes.

[Mind]

Update: my pinched nerve subsided on its own. Not sure why or how, but I did lay off any heavy lifting with my back and upper body for  a while. That seemed to correspond with a gradual lessening of my symptoms.

[Skunkdaddy]

Quick critique: lecithin derived from soy or anything else is probably somewhat oxidized/rancid or at least lacking in vit E complex. It has a strange gummy taste.. Try bone marrow, especially lamb shank, if you want to see what phospholipids can do. Also, brewers yeast has too much chromium and other impurity I thought. Nutritional yeast flakes are good from time to time but I hate the Vit B fortification, gives a synthetic taste to what would otherwise be a good condiment. Even 1/3 of serving size is pretty packing; I like it for the RNA source.. Definitely need stinging nettle to counteract potential for gout though. I'm pecking on iPad so my fastidiousness is waning.

[Skunkdaddy]

Also, I don't think calcium carbonate would pose a problem if you had enough phosphorous/histidine/zinc. When it comes to bone remodeling I would bet estrogen or some other hormone is your limiting factor at 62yo. In which case shilajit would go a long way in restoring your HPTA axis. I am simply astounded by this tub of Pur Black, ha.

[Luminosity]

For some calcium supplements or other mineral supplements can make this problem worse.  For some, food sources of calcium are best.  The theory is that bones can form bone spurs like calluses where there was weakness, although that isn't the only reason they form.  There is another theory that for some, stagnant chi or inferior absorption or processing of nutrients can play a part.  There are Chinese medical formulas that help with stagnant chi.  Different ones are good for different people.  Too much acid can play a part, even orange juice, tea, and of course, soda.  Hot meals, and in general staying comfortably warm, is good for bones.  If tolerated, a teaspoon of brandy in some herb tea or herbal coffee substitute  might help a bit.  Teechino is a good coffee substitute.  Find it at Swansons, Vitacost and maybe Wholefoods. Christian Brothers is an o.k. brandy.  Raynal is a fine brandy.  E.& J. brandy is nasty; a Gallo brand that unfortunately is everywhere, but it might work for some, especially if diluted.    

 

Sounds like Mikey is smart and has good instincts.  Good luck.       

Edited by Luminosity, 03 September 2015 - 06:42 AM.