Before the avalanche of advice coming in to dissuade me from such an abomination of an idea let me just say that yes, I understand Phenibut. Yes I've used it with the 1-2 times weekly recommendation in the 1.0 - 1.5 gram mark. It worked very well for that and helped me in many situations without withdrawal symptoms or tolerance. Then I'd also like to say that YES, I've read the horror stories, they scare the shit out of me. I'd like to say that I've read the success stories too. Responsible users can dabble in this, it takes a lot of self diligence and many years of proving yourself capable, but if that's you, this is an incredible tool.
Now I've also read success stories of people using this chronically. The verdict is obviously not out on the efficacy of doing this, and this is why I'm here.
Why would I want to use low dose chronic phenibut? Well, I'm in a very particular situation. I've been suffering for 7+ years from an unknown cause. If you want the details, you'll find them Here and Here.
Every time I took Phenibut in a reasonable dose (never 2+ grams, that scared me a bit with how much inhibition was removed) I felt almost cured of my condition. I looked at the Russian literature that suggests 250 mg 3 times daily for 2-3 weeks at a time and decided I'd experiment with it and see how it felt. I feel like a normal human being for the first time in 7+ years (except obviously when I experimented with the weekly dose). I can socialize, I can think, I can feel, I can enjoy, I can contemplate, I can express, I can be. I'm fairly convinced I have PAWS (Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome) and I believe my GABA-B receptors are totally shot. I binge drink on the weekends only (or did, sometimes still) and I had NO idea that alcohol could ever cause something so severe. I've seen friends drink 5x my amount for even longer and be completely fine (at least on the surface, liver, I don't know). I spent years looking at everything else possible. Ritalin is also huge to me as well. Everything is in the documents I shared.
I know certain diseases use Baclofen (Almost identical structure to Phenibut) as a lifetime treatment and it is well tolerated. I realize GABA-B healing actually takes years of complete absence of agonism but at the moment I just can't deal with it anymore. I need this, so bad. I can't keep going on like this. I'm seeing Dr's, neurologists, psychologists, and they don't have a fucking clue. I've had a full MRI to no avail. Again check my Google doc for all the info. I understand the pro's/con's. This is a very long thought out risk benefit analysis so please don't treat me like a child that cannot understand something on his own and through his own diligent research. I get it, the withdrawal can be hell on earth.
I would like to know if anyone else has experience with regimens such as this and how it turned out for them, even if it turned out poorly (maybe especially - remember, this is low dose. I'm currently taking 250 mg in the morning and night, so 500 mg daily). I know some people take it nightly for sleep without troubles, but I suppose I just want to compile some experiences all in one place to generate some discussion on this specific idea. Also for those that did cycle this, what was your schedule / regimen like? Did you ween, if so, by how much and for how long?
I want this to be as temporary as possible but I want to do it as informed as possible. I plan on doing P21 ASAP, whenever Ceretropic gets it in. I've heard Cerebrolysin can help significantly with PAWS. I also have memantine on the way as I've heard it can help with this kind of thing as well, we'll see. Hopefully it can replace this.
If you still feel the need to ream me out for even thinking this please do, but also understand where I'm coming from, I know this is a very personal unique decision but guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks guys