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[Anthropositor]

I was initially intrigued by a search engine entry suggesting a connection between the genesis of cancer and the substance PyrroloQuinoline Quinone (PQQ).  As I looked at various search entries, it more and more appeared that the answers I was coming across were mostly in the negative and the few positives seemed vanishingly tenuous.
 

My wife and I are in the 3/4 century bracket.  I took a long actuarial questionnaire a few weeks ago, answering all questions with precision.  I wanted to get the statistical probabilities.  What I got was the news that I was probabalistically already dead a year.  I have kept this statistical data from my wife on the theory that such news might be a damper on our conjugal activity, which I theorize might not be good for our longevity at all.

A bit more than a third of a century ago, when we met, my silent assessment was that we were each probably in the final trimester of life then, an illusion which is commonly felt by the young.  As we grew more -- attached -- I found myself silently, but steadily working on ways to improve our chances.  I moderated my dissolute life-style purposefully and paid much more attention to improving physiological processes.  That continues.

Most recently my focus has been on the telomeres  and on mitochondria.  The Cliff Notes are, my wife and I consume considerable amounts of huang qi for the purpose of prolonging the useful span of the telomeres, and PQQ to encourage the proliferation of healthy mitochondria and the ruthless apoptosis of worn out mitochondria that prefers retirement to vigor.  At this point in time I don't know nearly enough about the various aspects of PQQ.  It seems shockingly expensive, so while learning about the mechanisms of action, I will be keeping an eye out for ways to consume it in less concentrated forms that do not break the bank.

 

I am using a two-fold approach, taking herbs containing PQQ and taking 20 mg a day in pill form.  It has only been a few months.  These are my impressions.  I feel stronger.  I have done no endurance testing so that carries little weight.  I injured both shoulders in an identical fashion but about a year apart.  At the outset of each injury I could not raise my hand on the affected side to the top of my head.  I did little formal rehab -- call it twenty minutes a day or less.  So shoulder #1 was perhaps 2/3 better when the second shoulder was damaged.  (Each hip was damaged with the respective shoulder as well, but it is of no importance, since in each case, I was able to get up and walk.)  So, as of three months ago, I could reach almost straight up with arm #1, maybe 15 degrees from vertical.  The second arm made it to maybe 35 degrees from vertical.  In the past few months I have gone almost to 100% with both shoulders.  This seems to me to be an indicator that my body has gotten more efficient in its' repairs, with no additional rehab.

 

It is worth noting that prior to the PQQ, I was taking substantial amounts of huang qi, and Vitamin K2 of various types and doses, along with D3 and Calcium in several varieties.  These are certainly centerpieces in my health regimen.  I have not been able to isolate notable positive features of the huang qi.  Negative features, as far as I can tell, are absent.  The fact that I had both of these serious falls and a third in which I fell perhaps five feet, landing on my back on hard terrain without breaking anything, gives evidence of some sort that the K2 seems to be doing what it is supposed to be doing, reducing vascular plaque and sending the calcium on to the bones.  I am in my mid-seventies.  The three falls, with no broken bones, tell me I am doing something right.  No outside assistance was required.  

 

Live long and prosper. 

  

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[markkhicks]

I'm am approaching 60, former athlete, so reasonably fit with genetics on my side. I take a variety of normal vitamins like reservatol cq10 garlic tumeric d3 magnesium zinc and other stuff. I started niagen recently and have bought Stem Cell 100+. The last one is supposed to help with telemere length . I'm a little concerned about radicalizing any cells messing with telemere length. I'd be interested in some additional pqq info. And your oil idea.

[Anthropositor]

Hello Mark,

Until others show up, we have a dialogue.  I notice immediately our respective approaches both converge and diverge.  I have not yet been moved to try Niagen or Stem Cell 100+.  At this point I couldn't say with precision why not, since so many variables enter that equation.  The whole notion of extending telomere length though, resonates with reason for me.  PQQ is reputed to encourage the multiplication of healthy mitochondria and (paradoxically) to induce apoptosis of defective mitochondria.  The mechanism is not entirely clear to me at this time.  Exercise too, according to the majority perspective, is important.  I have never been excessively athletic or into sports, so it is my hope that this widespread emphasis on heavy exercise can be moderated by other means.  In the meantime, assuming I am wrong, my focus is to reasonably increase my exercise in spring and fall as best I can.

 

As to my "oil idea" in your last line, I can't seem to find it in my opening post.  But I may have said elsewhere that I expect that many of us get our Omegas in proportions that are not the best.  I operate on the premise that  the ratio of DHA to EPA should be 4:1.  Most products marketed have this ratio close to backwards.

 

Most recently, in the past week, I have begun to consume C60 fullerene in olive oil, in modest amounts; 10 drops, 20 drops, 40 drops daily.  The labeled dilution is 45 mg C60 in 50 ml olive oil.  No one has generated solid reasoning as to taking it with meals or on an empty stomach.  I take it upon arising, drinking only fluids for three or more hours.  The reasoning is to maximize absorption rather than excretion in the stool.  I don't get the sense that anyone really knows what they are doing yet with Buckminsterfullerene yet.  I feel good on several different parameters; energy, muscular recovery, libido, and general well-being.  Not that I was feeling bad a week ago.  I'll know more in a month.  It is now 5:30AM.  Time to brainstorm myself to sleep before the Sunrise. 

[Anthropositor]

Five weeks have gone by.  The C60OO bottle is empty.  The new bottle has not yet arrived.  So what do we do now?  (My wife likes it too).  Here is my reasoning.  During the duration of that first bottle, we discontinued our periodic regime of huang qi and ground milk thistle seed.  Since they tend to detoxify the liver, I didn't want to detox the C60 prematurely that might take up residence in the liver, along with whatever toxic substances that might be being cleaned up.  So it is back to the huang qi and ground milk thistle seed until the new bottle arrives.  Best of both worlds.

 

I am working on getting a supply of pristine fullerene powder more economically.  One outfit, recommended to me by someone whose opinion I value, fell by the wayside.  It stuck in my craw that, while the product was more economical, and could be purchased in gram amounts, shipping costs were a uniform $14.75.  I even had a chat with them on the phone.  The gist of it was, they deal with big companies and institutions often funded by government grants.  The shipping cost is not even on their radar.  In essence, what do they need me for?

 

Perhaps what this company is not fully comprehending is the numbers of competitors they are likely to have a year or two from now, who will be happy to do business with careful consumers just like me. 

[markkhicks]

Just thought I would touch base and ask about your success with the C60. I thought I'd also check if you tried niagen too now. I have not tried but am going to look at the huang qi now.


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[Anthropositor]

My results with C60 were not easy to pin down.  At best, I would have to conclude that the value is speculative enough for me to call a halt on using it.  I still intermittently use PQQ and huang qi.  I have resisted the use of Niagen.  Cost/benefit concerns.  I do consume both niacin and niacinamide mixed with D-ribose in a solution of water and ascorbic acid.  My wife says the drink is just too tart, so she is a comparative control. 

[markkhicks]

I think the niagen has some value but it is expensive, I was doing 500 per day but dropped down to 250 recently as a Ph.D. Guy had some questions on it . I do say though I actually talked with dr David Sinclair on it, he does 500 niagen and 500 resveratrol daily and I'm sure things we can't buy. I am going to and reevaluate my vitamin regime in September. It seems like I just keep adding.


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I'd return to 500 if cuban figure out the rest of what I take.


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Typo: if I can properly figure out the rest of what I take


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