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#1 panhedonic

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Posted 06 August 2015 - 09:07 AM


I'm sure most of you know that yohimbe can be dangerous: if you use the wrong dose, it can give you rapid heart-beat, high (or very low) blood pressure, anxiety and what-not. We all read the horror stories here and elsewhere. 

 

Well, I definitely experienced some of that...twice. The first time I took about 150mg of yohimbe, just to try it (standardized to 8% yohimbine, from BAC, no longer available, i believe) and what happened was not good. I started feeling a tingly sensation as I was in the grocery store, and soon enough I was in a full-blown anxiety attack, which I had to keep at bay taking long deep breaths until I could get back to my car. At that point (after 1h of taking it) I couldn't tell if I had shat in my pants or not. Turns out I was only heavily sweating from my ass crack. The state lasted a few hours. I went for a run, then I took a warm bath. Controlled my BP and it was like 155-85, which freaked me out until I realized it was getting better...slowly. I ended up taking some Xanax to accelerate the come-down a bit.  Needless to say, this was NO FUN. WTF was I thinking taking crazy doses of that (and other) herbs?

 

Other symptoms were some tightness in the base of the throat, cold feet, sensation of fever. All would pass after 2-3 hours. 

 

I didn't give up, though. I insisted 4 days later, this time before having sex. What happened was OMFG, fun!!!. I unleashed the beast. I had the biggest erection and most energetic type of libido that I probably ever had (I'm in my mid-40s). After some hour or so of animal sex, I started feeling jittery and my thoughts racing. Turns out my dose was still too high (I had eyeballed it and was probably 50% too much) ... but I wasn't going to stop :) 

 

I stabilized my dose at about 50mg yohimbe (about 3-4mg yohimbine, although who really knows) and the day after, I had the most amazing sex I probably had in my whole life, for 15 days in a row. I took it every other day or a bit more than that. The effect lasted for 2-3 days! The initial energy was only for a few hours, but the granite-hard erections went on for almost 4 days after I stopped taking it (and counting...)

 

The most interesting thing is that, after reading a few studies, I learned that yohimbe acts independently from testosterone, both on erections and libido (and even after rats were anesthetized in their genitals, they would chase females for mating)

 

I am healthy, and don't have ED, but was looking for a sexcreational drug, to enhance the experience. Boy did I find it. Hopefully taken in the right-doses and with some cycling, it won't bring about any other side-effects. Yohimbine is currently used chronically as a ED therapy, although most people prefer cialis for that. I don't. I like much more the "complete" state that Y brings about, as opposed to the "robotic arm" feeling of tadalafil/sildenafil. I got nothing against those compounds, but they feel a lot less natural in the experience they facilitate.

 

A few confounding factors: I'm taking selegiline 5mg/day for 4 years now and I had taken cabergoline and toremifene, but stopped 15 days before this experience. i don't *think* they would stay in my system, would they?

I'm also taking zinc, Mg,  boron, selenium, and fenugreek, for over a year now. I also took some citrulline about 5 days before the experience. 

 

 

 

 

 


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#2 panhedonic

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 03:37 PM

I should add, what I'm most interested in (besides other people's experiences) is what to mix it with, to kill the anxiogenic edge. Theanine? GABA? Taurine?



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#3 John2009

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Posted 13 August 2015 - 03:28 AM

Could you please tell me the brand of Yhohimbe you used and the exact dose and dosing schedule ? Did it have any affect on blood pressure at the low dose you used ? Please PM me if you need to.

 

I saw a yohimbe product by primaforce that provides  2.5 MG of yohimbine, shown at the link below.

 

http://www.iherb.com...ggie-Caps/58663

 

Thanks,

John



#4 panhedonic

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 11:23 PM

John, 

 

It's in the post: (standardized to 8% yohimbine, from BAC, no longer available, i believe)  Beyond a Century. 

I'm not sure about BP, since I felt good, I didn't check. I will next time, as I have a cuff here. 

 

In my experience, taking 50mg of Yohimbe standardized to 8% yohimbine is plenty. You should start low, otherwise you'll be uncomfortable (or ill) and you will miss out on a remarkable substance. 

 

 



#5 panhedonic

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Posted 28 August 2016 - 12:33 AM

Darn, I had forgotten that I started this thread almost exactly a year ago. 



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Posted 28 August 2016 - 12:00 PM

Well my personal experience is that it's great if used as a pre-workout and to lose weight. That's honestly it. I actually thought that a lot of things regarding yohimbe ae overblown just like DNP and the like ( Although DNP is really dangerous ).



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Posted 28 August 2016 - 09:10 PM

I want just to point out that Selegiline 5mg/day is a huge dosage if not for therapeutical reasons (Parkinson).

 

Professor Joseph Knoll, the Selegiline inventor recommends 2.5mg/week as an "health practice".

 

Remember that Selegiline in an IRREVERSIBLE MAO inhibitor, high dosage is therefore not recommended..


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#8 panhedonic

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Posted 29 August 2016 - 04:30 PM

I want just to point out that Selegiline 5mg/day is a huge dosage if not for therapeutical reasons (Parkinson).

 

Professor Joseph Knoll, the Selegiline inventor recommends 2.5mg/week as an "health practice".

 

Remember that Selegiline in an IRREVERSIBLE MAO inhibitor, high dosage is therefore not recommended..

 

IRREVERSIBLE??  Sounds HOBBIBLE! What if I want my MAO to be uninhibited again?  

 

Seriously now, Aconita, I think you are misinformed. Deprenyl is therapeutically used for Depression, there are several threads in this forum, spanning many years of scientific literature compilation and anecdotal evidence.



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Posted 29 August 2016 - 09:44 PM

Selegiline, also known as L-deprenyl is a substituted phenethylamine that at normal clinical doses it is a selective irreversible MAO-B inhibitor. In larger doses it loses its specificity and also inhibits MAO-A. It is available in pill form under many brand names[1] and is used to reduce symptoms in early-stage Parkinson's disease. A transdermal patch (brand name, Emsam) is used to treat depression.

 

https://en.wikipedia...wiki/Selegiline

 

Monoamine oxidase A inhibitors have been typically used in the treatment of depression, and monoamine oxidase B inhibitors are typically used in the treatment of Parkinson's disease.

 

https://en.wikipedia...amine_oxidase_B

 

I invite you to read at least those two Wikipedia articles in their full length in order to get a better basic knowledge about Selegiline, a prescription drug dealing with quite delicate mechanisms.

 

Monoamine oxidase enzymes irreversibly inhibited are gone but new ones will be produced again, the point is if you take 5mg/day every day they will continuously be inhibited as they form, something you likely don't desire unless Parkinson is your pathology.

 

There are good reason why some drug are prescription only, it doesn't mean that are necessarily bad for you but if someone with poor knowledge abuses of them or uses them inappropriately some unpleasant outcomes might be of concern.

 

Therefore before jumping on the prescription drugs bandwagon, please, educate yourself, which doesn't mean to just read a few posts on a forum, mine included. 

 

By the way a smart choice is to apply the above to ALL drugs AND supplements, just in case.



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 05:34 AM

I have read a few dozen studies and most likely every single article wrote about selegiline. I've taken it for 4 years now. How would you know how educated I am about this substance?


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Posted 19 September 2016 - 08:51 AM

How would you know how educated I am about this substance?

 

About you I don't have any idea, but when I read
 

IRREVERSIBLE??  Sounds HOBBIBLE! What if I want my MAO to be uninhibited again?  

 

Seriously now, Aconita, I think you are misinformed. Deprenyl is therapeutically used for Depression, there are several threads in this forum, spanning many years of scientific literature compilation and anecdotal evidence.

 

there is not much room for doubts.

 

Therefore don't worry: if you don't show evidence of the contrary nobody will doubt of your level of education about selegiline. :)

 

By the way, education about a substance is not accurately measured just by the length of time of taking it.


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#12 panhedonic

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 11:08 AM

Aconita, 

 

  • in the articles you yourself sent, clearly states that Selegiline is therapeutically prescribed for depression (i.e. EMSAM patches) and not just for Parkinson's. (I recommend reading the articles you link to)
  • you have no knowledge what the recommended doses for Selegiline are. 
  • you are posting in a thread called "my remarkable experience with *yohimbe*" 
  • you have no idea of *why I take selegiline* and whether it was prescribed to me or not, because you have not bothered asking.
  • again, you have very likely not read any of the dozens of selegiline threads in this very forum (and all the scientific literature linked in them by many knowledgeable members of this forum)
  • you warn and preach to me because I'm taking a substance you are concerned about, without bothering to give any details ("it's an irreversible MAOi" doesn't cut it, since you don't seem to know what that entails or why that's so serious or risky. "some unpleasant outcomes might be of concern" is a platitude of no value)

 

Let's please go back to yohimbe. You can tell us about selegiline in a selegiline thread, if indeed you have something valuable to say. Thanks.

 

 


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Posted 20 September 2016 - 08:16 AM

Judging by your interaction (including the need for more than one account) it seems that selegiline is not doing any good to you, actually in your shoes I would start considering to be seriously concerned about the unpleasant outcomes mentioned. 

 

Why don't consider changing the battery more often instead of frolicking with substances?

 

Anyway don't worry: I will happily return to mind my own business since it seems I am not up to level with such an educated scholar that after reading a few dozen studies and most likely every single article wrote about selegiline and 4 years of use doesn't even know what MAOs are, the difference between A and B, the irreversible action of the drug and its implications, just to name a few.

 

Say hello to Lubna when you'll see her.  


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Posted 09 June 2018 - 03:38 PM

WebMD lists Yohimbine as being 'possibly unsafe'', with reports of severe side-effects: https://www.webmd.co...ono-759/yohimbe. I'm not sure if these will only happen in higher doses. I have my doubts if Yohimbine should be taken long-term, if taken at all.  A higher heart beat (as well as irregular) is also most likely not good from a longevity standpoint.


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Posted 09 June 2018 - 07:59 PM

I always get jittery from yohimbine which is odd bc other stimulants I don’t. Rauwolscine is even stronger. Olympus Labs Re1gn has an ingredient called ST1M-X(as C.Macroceras extracted for alkaloids) which they won’t disclose what it is but rumors are it’s a more potent yohimbine like substance.

Edited by John250, 09 June 2018 - 08:04 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:32 PM

Did you manage to find something that takes the edge off the anxiety-inducing effects of Yohimbine? I took about 5.4 mg a couple of nights ago, and I'm only now getting rid of the feeling of (slight) unease. 



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Posted 14 June 2018 - 06:16 PM

My guess is that the problem here is that you guys are taking way too much for your systems.

 

What I call my 'discovery' is that you can take a tiny bit every day and it will start adding up on your erection and not on your anxiety. 

 

I take it in drops (herb pharm brand, but it doesn't matter, as all brands I tried work) and I take 1 drop every 2-3 days and 4 drops if I want a "big night". 

 

I'm 50yo and I have been enjoying the benefits of this herb for 2-3 years now and it never fails. You have to be a bit patient, might take a week to kick in, but then it's there for the long haul. 

 

I can't stress enough how this improved my sexual life. I never had ED, so I can't speak for that condition, but the difference is notable. 



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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:56 PM

How about your experience with fenugreek?

 

I've heard this goes either way with men's libido.



#19 panhedonic

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 10:09 PM

I am taking Fenugreek, but tbh, I have no way of finding out if it works or not, since Yohimbe alone does the job pretty well (although Fenugreek is said to work on testosterone, whilst yohimbe isn't)


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#20 Leon93

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 09:10 AM

Panhedonic, did Yohimbine do wonders for your fat tissue as well? Did it lower your belly fat/body fat percentage?



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#21 funkdakarma

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 03:17 PM

Just to chime in with my experiences so far with yohimbine HCL. I've been using it for about a week now.

 

As with panhedonic, my initial experiences (which, due to wariness at what I've read through my research) were a bit dodgy, despite me starting at very small doses (2.7 mg). Anxiety, heavy feeling in the chest, jitteriness, slight depression, headache, not a very restful sleep. The libido boost was kind of noticeable, but I was hoping for a fuller, fatter erection. The first time having sex on it was so-so, but the next few times my orgasms were more powerful. One even had me laughing out loud right after, which kind of confused my girlfriend a little bit!

 

I upped it to 5.4 mg last night, and I had no adverse side-effects as reported before. I did combine it with a male multivitamin that is tailored for stress management, along with 425 mg of passionflower. The arousal was more pronounced, penile sensitivity improved, the only problem is that I came even prior to penetration!

 

I'm guessing there's a period of adjustment one has to go with this, but there will be rewards if used carefully over time and also cycled.

 

I found that Tribulus also had a pretty good libido-boosting effect and improved erection quality (which I took in conjunction with Mucuna Pruriens powder), but I noticed it makes me drop weight like crazy! And I'm 6'3, 220 lbs, lean, so I don't want to look too skinny. Will use sparingly.

 







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