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Efficacy of racetams/others for brain damage

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#1 nbc

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Posted 28 August 2015 - 03:57 PM


I posted a very long question yesterday, can't delete it apparently. I'll make my question more concise, which is much easier considering I went to the doctor.

Doc. says all of my symptoms point toward brain injury/damage from heat stroke. The extent is unknown, and I refused to get any imaging done until some time has passed and I get an idea of how recovery will go. The persistent headache I have has been right at the top of my brainstem, right where my cerebellum is (area most commonly damaged with heatstroke/exhaustion). Possibly affected my cerebral cortex, too. In general, has anyone had any experience with this sort of thing, and is there anyone who can advise on some nootropics/a stack that I can try as an aid to diet/exercise/etc. to promote healing as best I can? I understand the outlook isn't always very good, just trying to stay positive. Thanks.



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Posted 22 September 2015 - 07:31 PM

I've never dealt with heatstroke damage, but most people I've worked with have had some sort of brain damage, whether from concussions, drugs/alcohol, seizure disorders, hypoxia, or minor strokes.  None of them had medical contraindications for taking racetams, and all felt some benefit from them.  They won't necessarily help grow any new neurons, but can do a lot to help those which are in the "walking wounded" category.

 

The people I work with, are all people I know well, including their complete medical histories.  I don't know anything about you, beyond what's in this post, so I'm not prepared to recommend any substance to you, but piracetam is safe for most people, inexpensive, easy to get, and usually works.  It is a mild blood thinner, and won't be a good idea for everyone, but you could run it by your doctor.  Most of the doctors I've dealt with smile on piracetam, unless there's some patient-specific reason not to.

 

There are other avenues to be tried, too, but that's a good starting point.



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Posted 22 September 2015 - 09:23 PM

I've never dealt with heatstroke damage, but most people I've worked with have had some sort of brain damage, whether from concussions, drugs/alcohol, seizure disorders, hypoxia, or minor strokes.  None of them had medical contraindications for taking racetams, and all felt some benefit from them.  They won't necessarily help grow any new neurons, but can do a lot to help those which are in the "walking wounded" category.

 

The people I work with, are all people I know well, including their complete medical histories.  I don't know anything about you, beyond what's in this post, so I'm not prepared to recommend any substance to you, but piracetam is safe for most people, inexpensive, easy to get, and usually works.  It is a mild blood thinner, and won't be a good idea for everyone, but you could run it by your doctor.  Most of the doctors I've dealt with smile on piracetam, unless there's some patient-specific reason not to.

 

There are other avenues to be tried, too, but that's a good starting point.

 

Thanks for your reply, nootist. Recovery has been mild, at best. I'll refrain from symptoms and I guess I'm just thankful that it's not worse. The doctor's visit was helpful and insightful, but who knows what the deal really is. I'm functioning well enough to where I feel that I can fight it without spending money on imaging/medical attention unless the improvement seems to slow to an unbearable rate. You said you're not prepared to recommend anything given that you have no medical records, which I'm not prepared to give up or anything like that. I'm just asking, in general, is there anything that you can recommend or have heard of that has been helpful in your "patients" recoveries? Your last sentence hints that there are some things out there that could potentially improve my symptoms/their causes, would you mind enlightening me?

 

Though I said I would refrain from going over my symptoms, I'll list a few just for reference and see if any of them sort of match your patients'.

 

- Mental fatigue. I get off from work at four and have taken 1-3 hours naps once I'm off, regardless of how much sleep I've gotten the night before. Since the incident that caused this, I've failed to get 8 hrs of sleep maybe 3 or 4 nights. That's 3-4 nights out of about 45. My capacity to learn seems about the same as before, but my mental stamina given a complex/relatively complex task seems to have dropped quite a bit. Four hours after waking up it feels as if I've been studying all day..... not fun.

 

- Short-term memory. Nothing is crazy "off", and it's tough to pinpoint, but, I find myself losing track of where I was more often than usual. I've always been pretty ADD/easily distracted, but I find myself, for example, starting in a direction or toward a room with the intention of picking something up out of that room, and upon entering that room I forgot what my intention was in going there. It's happening more frequently than it used to, so it seems.

 

- Decision making/ Organization. This is also tough to really pinpoint, because it's subtle... but, very noticeable. The best example of this that I have is me starting my day. It's easily diagnosed as morning drowsiness, but, I have trouble organizing tasks into the most efficient way. I'll want to brush my teeth, eat, and put on my clothes, and I'll have trouble simply starting the process of putting my clothes on because I'll be caught up on which part of the process (i.e. socks, then underwear, then shirt, or something else... etc.). It just seems to take longer than usual to organize a plan, and then not miss a step in carrying it out.

 

- That headache is still present, less noticeable but in the same location. Improves with advil. 

 

So, there's an outline. It's not crazy, although, I am worried with school starting in two days (I'm going into my senior year of college) how much this will affect my studies. Hopefully there's something you can recommend. I'll also list what I've been doing to help myself/supplements. I would love some more recommendations if you can advise some more, or anyone else. Thanks again for your help....

 

-Run 3 miles every other day. Been slacking the past two weeks but starting again

-Piracetam, fish or kryll oil, and Lion's Mane. These seem to help but it seems that I could be doing more to help



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Posted 22 September 2015 - 09:48 PM

I forgot to mention one other annoying little "tick" that's emerged.

 

Reading speed/comprehension. For one, I cannot seem to read as quickly. I'll try to read at my normal rate and my brain will replace one word with a similarly spelled/sounding word that in turn leads the sentence to crumble. For example: the sentence "I forgot to do the laundry" will be read and processed as "I forgot to due the laundry". I'll quickly realize the mistake, but it seems to be happening very frequently also. Just very, very weird and it leads to a pretty crappy feeling, to be honest. I've always been sharp on my reading comprehension and speed, and it seems to have dropped a bit. Just trying to provide more insight. Again, thanks.







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