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#1 lemon_

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 12:10 PM


Hi all,

 

May you please suggest a probiotic or a complex probiotic that can help the issue of when taking supplements ones stomach feels unwell/sick. 

When my pa and ma takes pills, he always gets stomach issues. I don't get any stomach issues and I could take the whole box...

 

 

Any idea of what probiotics/probiotic mix can fix this?

 

Thank You. 

 

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 03:56 PM

What supplements are we speaking of?



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Posted 31 October 2015 - 04:01 PM

What supplements are we speaking of?

 

pretty much anything.... nac, magnesium,etc.....



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Posted 31 October 2015 - 04:01 PM

As far as protecting the stomach goes, PPC / polyenylphosphatidylcholine (PhosChol) has shown remarkable properties.  

 

http://www.lifeexten...ort/Page-01?p=1

 

My girlfriend gets cluster headaches and must take NSAID's for them but they were wrecking her stomach.  She swears by PhosChol now.  

 

As far as lower GI issues go, we've both been taking Culturelle (lactobacillus rhamnosus), which has been shown to survive stomach acids and effectively colonize in the colon better than many other strains.  

 

Not sure if the probiotic will help with supplement irritation in the colon, but PPC / PhosChol will give you a bullet proof stomach better than anything I know.

 

"A study on experimentally induced gastric ulcers in rats (Dunjic BS, et al., 1993) showed that mucosal lesions were significantly reduced by a single dose of PPC given before or after the injury factor, which in this study was ethanol or an NSAID.


A recent clinical trial compared the GI effects of aspirin to those of aspirin complexed with PPC (Anand BS et al., 1999). Sixteen healthy subjects were given either ten doses of aspirin or ten doses of the aspirin/PPC complex over a 72 hour period. After a "washout" period, subjects were switched over to the other medication for a 72 hour period.



Researchers counted the number of gastroduodenal erosions in each subject. Those taking aspirin had an average of 8.75 erosions, while those taking the aspirin/PPC complex averaged only 2.81 erosions. The protective effect of PPC was most apparent in those who were most susceptible to aspirin injury, and did not interfere with the therapeutic activity of the aspirin."


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Posted 31 October 2015 - 11:26 PM

What seems strange to me is supplements causing the issue, some supplements can, of course, it is well known that magnesium citrate for example is a very powerful laxative, calcium too may cause runs, etc...but to state that any supplement will cause discomfort seems unlikely related to the supplement itself due to the variety of the nature and action's mechanic of each supplement.

 

With supplements known to cause issues the strategy is usually to take several small doses during the day instead of a single big dose.

 

Try to give them a couple of capsules filled up with sugar (without telling) in order to rule out any placebo effect.

 

If supplements in general are really the cause I am not sure probiotics will fix it, that said I consider prebiotics as a smarter (and cheaper) strategy for intestinal microbiome health, inulin is inexpensive and effective.


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