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[ceridwen]

They have not been banned

[Turnbuckle]

For those living in the formerly free UK, the ban goes into effect in 2 days. One site is selling out its inventory with a 40% off sale--

 

- The Psychoactive Substances Act will begin on May 26th, 2016.

 

From May 26th 2016 we will no longer be supplying the following products:

 

Adrafinil

Coluracetam

Centrophenoxine

Noopept

Phenibut

Phenylpiracetam

Pramiracetam

Sunifiram

Oxiracetam

Selank & Semax

 

 

 

 

[pamojja]

For those living in the formerly free UK, the ban goes into effect in 2 days. One site is selling out its inventory with a 40% off sale--

 

- The Psychoactive Substances Act will begin on May 26th, 2016.

 

From May 26th 2016 we will no longer be supplying the following products:

 

Adrafinil

Noopept

Pramiracetam

 

Thanks for the hind. As of now they only have above left as Tabs. Noopept is for free. Beside other supplements they still carry in future. For which the 40% discount code applies as well.
 

[sativa]

Interesting wording change in the new law:

Something has changed in the way the Home Office wants to enforce the Psychoactive Substances Act. It's a minor change in the small print, but it says a lot about how the government wants to pursue the war on drugs and the way in which civil servants try to maximise the power of the state.

Look very carefully at the documents the Home Office recently released around the Act, as Richard Greenhill has done, and you find something odd. The government is accepting a scientific definition of the phrase 'psychoactive' rather than the childlike one they themselves put forward.

http://www.politics....active-substanc

Edited by sativa, 24 May 2016 - 07:35 PM.

[sativa]

From reddit thread:

You can view the forensics guidance here: https://www.gov.uk/g...tances-act-2016

The ACMD has recommended two tests:

(1) receptor binding assay (to determine whether the drug binds to the receptor); and

(2) a functional assay (to determine whether the drug activates a response following interaction with the receptor).

In both cases testing is done in the laboratory by immobilising cells that have specific receptors, exposing them to a drug and measuring the response.

The receptors which have been selected for testing are:

CB1 (targeted by cannabis and synthetic cannabinoid type drugs);
GABAA (targeted by benzodiazepine type drugs);
5-HT2A (targeted by hallucinogenic type drugs – these can be from a number of different types of drugs);
NMDA (targeted by dissociative/hallucinogenic drugs e.g. ketamine);
µ-opioid (targeted by opioid drugs e.g. heroin); and
monoamine transporters (targeted by stimulant drugs e.g. MDMA, cocaine).

The receptor and functional assays have been selected to cover a range of psychoactive substances that have been encountered in Europe. Additional receptors may be added in the future if different drugs or mechanisms of drug action appear.

[wanderlust]

so this "ban " has now been active for a while and today i was shopping in a small town in middle England. 

and brought  green tea extract  l-theanine  tablets ,ginkgo biloba tablets ,pantholic acid, and could have brought an assortment of nootropic vitamins  such as b12 

straight off the shelf in the health section of a high street shop .

 

law change affecting noots ... well no not exactly

 

Edited by wanderlust, 15 June 2016 - 07:06 PM.

[Turnbuckle]

so this "ban " has now been active for a while and today i was shopping in a small town in middle England. 

and brought  green tea extract  l-theanine  tablets ,ginkgo biloba tablets ,pantholic acid, and could have brought an assortment of nootropic vitamins  such as b12 

straight off the shelf in the health section of a high street shop .

 

law change affecting noots ... well no not exactly

 

Alcohol, tobacco, foods and those things found in food were white listed. But other nootropics were not. For instance, did you see any Adrafinil, Coluracetam, Centrophenoxine, Noopept, Phenibut, Phenylpiracetam, Pramiracetam, Sunifiram, Oxiracetam, Selank or Semax?

[wanderlust]

so we are now saying that the law only covers some noots, the ones that are not commonly used ...

 

i didn't see any of those for sale in a high street shop as they have never been for sale in such places it has no connection to a ban

 

The fact is there remains no evidence and no cases of this ban affecting  noos

 

i am seriously  looking into selling Dihydromyricetin DHM    to the public here in the uk so i will be meeting with the police to getting written confirmation of its legality or illicitly before i begin the endeavor. i will try and use the opportunity to discover the scope of how this new ambiguous law is being applied if i can

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let us hope that common sense and good thinking prevails in this matter

and that this law is going to be used to tackle the onslaught of dangerous untested legal highs flooding our streets

 

 

 

Edited by wanderlust, 15 June 2016 - 07:28 PM.

[RGCheek]

 

From the article linked to above--

 

Last week, analysis by the Office for National Statistics said deaths linked to legal highs had more than tripled in two years.

 

The number increased over a 10-year period from 2004, with a total of 76 recorded during that time frame in England and Wales...

 

“Psychoactive substances shatter lives and we owe it to all those who have lost loved ones to do everything we can to eradicate this abhorrent trade,” Minister Karen Bradley said.

 

 

 

So 7.6 deaths a year for all these substances combined, and it becomes abhorrent, while smoking is whitelisted even though it causes 100,000 deaths a year in Britain--more than ten thousand times as many deaths.

 

​Looks like Britain is a giant loony bin where the loonies are in charge.

 

I am not sure why or how we have come to view the government as a suitable medical authority when they seem to most often bungle up everything that they get their hands into other than those activities that involve the mass slaughter of human beings, whether it is death camps or saturation bombing.

 

More people die from automobile accidents than recreational drugs each year, so I doubt the motive in these drug bans is to protect the public so much as to monopolize the black markets for their political supporters.

 

We should end all laws on drug use, Period, replace the enforcement funding with funding for counseling and treatment.

 

In such a world view Nootropics would be easily allowable and desirable, no?

Edited by RGCheek, 21 August 2016 - 01:29 PM.

[Nootropic Cat]

Seems like the vendors are disregarding this? I just received a shipment from one of the main euro suppliers and have some piracetam on the way from an online pharmacy. I'm guessing they concluded that no one was actually going to start going after anyone for buying or selling noots?

Edited by Nootropic Cat, 06 September 2016 - 02:41 PM.

[wanderlust]

Found this in an archive at work and it felt relivent.

 

Boosting your brain power
ethical aspects of cognitive enhancements
a discussion paper by the British medical association
 November 2007

 

"Attempts to improve aspects of cognitive ability and functioning are nothing new, but as evidence emerges of the success of some of these methods, questions are being raised about the extent to which their use should be permitted, tolerated or even encouraged. There is evidence that some pharmaceutical products, or medical procedures developed to treat recognised medical conditions may also enhance intellectual performance in healthy individuals. There is also evidence that some of these methods are already being used surreptitiously by US students as study aids. Not surprisingly then, there is a growing expectation that the use of these so-called “cognitive enhancers” in the UK is both imminent and inevitable.
Despite a large and growing academic literature about the development and use of cognitive enhancements, there has been very little public debate about the way society should respond to these developments and what, if any, public policy response is needed. This paper aims to encourage such a debate, by looking at what is possible now, what may be possible in the next 20-30 years"

 

 

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Edited by wanderlust, 01 October 2016 - 11:19 PM.