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#1 superlux

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 03:11 PM


Hello,
 
I want to begin straight away. I had a problem with abusing cocaine, mdma, alcohol for 2 years.
It is just recently that I begin to understand the damage I did to myself.
I think the underlying problem was my tendency of feeling understimulated because of my adhd. The first year of using cocaine was relatively soft-use. I snorted between 1-2g per week. 
Mdma abuse was not that much but without the needed breaks between usage, so I ended up with some kind of panic disorder, dp, dr symptoms for four month. I think I could have recovered easily from all this but my personmal life at this point just broke away so I ended up binge using cocaine. By binge using cocaine I mean 2-3g on one day with a lot of alcohol, nicotine week after week for one year straight. 
It was just recently I realised that I had a problem. Not so much with abusing drugs but because of adhd releated reward deficency. Life really never felt that rewarding for me, obviously when abusing drugs the reward threshold rises but I´m talking about pre- drug use. 
So I began to see a doctor, who prescribed me ritalin for the adhd I have. I have to say, that between going to the doctor and getting the ritalin prescription and the last coke binge there was just two week inbetween. 
So I began using ritalin hoping to fix my adhd symptoms and getting rid of all the substances I abused. The first week was pretty rough as ritalin seemed to change my personality quite a bit. I also noticed that I got more and more depressed, feeling apathic, lethargic etc.  I thought it must be the ritalin so I changed to vyvanse took it for 1,5 month but the symptomps became more and more severe. 
After 3 month of using prescription stimulants I just felt utterly bad. Fatigued, extremely depressed, lethargic, apathic etc. 
When I now take vyvanse (30mg) I just feel flue like symptomps without any energy. I get the same reaction from smoking cigarettes and even caffeine sends me into an lethargic, apathic, depressed mood.
Is it possible that receptors are so much downregulated so that I just feel the negative effects of any drug ? I just recently did cocaine, just to see and I had the same reaction as with prescription stimulants.
Obviously, I´m going to take a long break from everything but I´m interested in the mechanic of this dysphoric reaction after a period of stimulant abuse. I know people who abuse stimulants for a life time and never feel any dysphoric effects. Obviously, the tolerance goes up but they don´t experience this flue-like symptomps I experience and I just abused drugs for two years...
 
Right know I´m trying to recover by just staying away from any kind of stimulant even caffeine...
I pretty much feel exhausted all day, fatigued, sleepy (even dough I sleep 12-15 hours a day), no motivation, no libido, depressed etc. I know this will take a while to reset but I find this symptomps a little bit to extreme for the abuse I did.
 
Any suggestions and/or similar experiences ?

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#2 irony

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 06:04 PM

ritalin made me irritable and depressed

vyvanse made me anxious

adderall brightened my mood and gave me energy (sometimes, sometimes I felt lethargic on it), but didn't really help much for focus


Edited by irony, 25 May 2016 - 06:05 PM.


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#3 IP3

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 06:40 PM

Well, i have the same problem.

First afler long term abuse you can be addicted to stimulants. The best option to re-estabilish of dopamine and u-opioid receptors to previous activity is taking baclofen. It also eliminates carving for addictive drugs,

But if you have correctly diagnosed ADHD problem with unnderstimulation will peresist.

 

I also have prescribed methylphenidate and side effects are the same, jitterness and anxiety.

Now i create my own anti ADHD stack. I use clonidine (incareses adrenergic tonus in prefrontal cortex- it is third line drug to treat ADHD) and tianeptine (there was trial with this drug on adhd children ant results was positive- it increase dopaminergic activity, among many others effects).

I also use baclofen for anxiety, and to prevent dopamine receptor desensitization.

 

 

 

 


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 03:51 AM

if you want an agonist action at the frontal lobe. guanfacine has a similar one

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#5 IP3

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 02:06 PM

Well, yes hovever i dont have this drug in my country.




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