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[nevlugion]

I've been wondering whether there are any "successfull" cases of cryonics patients in the EU recently? (western)

 

I've red somewhere too that Alcor did sent a team to Thailand for treatment while I thought they usually don't do that outside of the US?

 

Can anyone bring some light to these questions? 

Edited by nevlugion, 29 June 2016 - 08:36 AM.

[YOLF]

I think there is or was a cryonics support crew somewhere in europe that can get you to any on the cryo companies. I imagine KrioRus might have something about them on their website. 

[nevlugion]

I see, I whish there was some more info about this on Alcor's website!

[elfanjo]

There is an alcor standby team in the UK. They get you ready for transportation and off to the US.

Not sure who takes care of transport (suspended animation ?)
http://www.alcor.org/AlcorUK.html

[JappieHoekstra]

Information as of July 2016:

 

Cryonics UK has about the same level of experience/knowledge/professionalism as Suspended Animation Inc. Anyone in or close to the UK can become a member of CUK (www.cryonics-uk.org), including members of Cryonics Institute for approx. GBP 25/month. They also have members from Germany, etc.. Upon deanimation they'll charge approx. GBP 25,000 for members or GBP 30,000 for non-members which will be paid for by Alcor or through your CI life insurance if you have provided CI with more than say $65,000 in total life insurance.

 

Cryonics UK has contracted Albins & Sons (funeral director in London) for vitrification assistance. CUK owns their own insulated transport box for shipping the patient to Alcor or Cryonics Institute at dry ice temperature, and have done so multiple times in the past. Paperwork is handled by Albins & Sons. The prices above include all the costs, both for funeral director assistance and (flight) shipment on dry ice.

 

The latest CUK case was in december 2015: http://www.alcor.org...ummary2878.html

 

In Germany and in The Netherlands the standby groups are in buildup stage, but already sufficiently developed and equipped (including assistance of funeral directors) to handle a case on a "best effort" case at low cost. If you can afford CUK you should contract them. Otherwise, and when you're in The Netherlands or Germany, get in contact. These three groups are all on 24/7 standby for a sudden case, and these three countries all have (at least) 90 litres of CI-VM-1 stored locally at cold temperature to perform last-minute vitrifications.

 

The Spanish group is currently building up avidly, but have no equipment yet. The Finnish group also has a number of active members and some equipment.

[nevlugion]

Thanks, that was quite informative!

 

Another aspect I've been pondering about is whether Alcor would change their cryonics procedure should better technologies become available and if there is actually any research being done in better technologies for cryonics, but I take it there is quite some Cryobiology research going on.

[JappieHoekstra]

Alcor only does limited research in-house. Saul Kent is on Alcor's Board of Directors, and he's mostly responsible for most cryonics research, through many of his projects:

 

a) Suspended Animation Inc - Standby improvement, research into better equipment/meds, etc.

b) 21st Century Medicine Inc - Cryoprotectants, cooldown, cryobiology research

c) The Stasis Foundation and the Timeship project (www.timeship.org) - Building a cryonics/cryobiology research campus with a $375 million building, developing a Temperature Controlled Volume dewar (patented, based on work from Brian Wowk/21CM)

d) The Life Extension Foundation - Former CI president Ben Best is employed here to travel the world and perform research into various cryonics related technology

 

Besides Saul Kent's efforts, research is performed by Advanced Neural Biosciences Inc, a small company headed by Aschwin de Wolf in Oregon USA. They do research into the application of cryoprotectants and cryonics medication for both Alcor and CI.

 

In Russia there's also research being done by the people around KrioRUS, including Igor Artyuhov, and Yuri Pichugin who developed CI-VM-1 for CI in the past. Cryonics Institute performs limited in-house research, and Oregon Cryonics (a recently founded storage facility by Jordan Sparks, former CI Director) does the same.

 

This is about 85% of the cryonics research picture today if I'm correct. The rest consists of some individuals performing small cryonics research projects.