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#1 jcalderaio

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 01:11 AM


I am 30 years old and I am in daily, debilitating chronic pain from Lyme Disease and 7 herniated discs. I have been in University for computer science for 5 years and I graduate in 6 months. I absolutely need to finish, but because my pain meds are not working I cannot concentrate anymore and I fear I will have to drop out. I am becoming suicidal because of this. I spoke to my pain management doc and he will not give me anything stronger than what I already have.

 

I find that about 1.5 g of phenibut in addition to my normal meds totally destroys my pain but I have only been taking it about 3-4 days a week for the past year (I take the other few days of the week off for fear of addiction). I need to be in less pain to get through the last 6 months of my computer science bachelor's. I've been toying with the idea of taking phenibut about 1 g per day, 7 days a week because it is so good for my pain. I am on many other meds, but without the phen I am still in horrible pain. I have a prescription to baclofen and I take lyrica daily, so when I am finished school I could use it to withdraw myself off the phenibut. My long-term plan is to get better pain management treatment, but right now that's just not possible as there are no good facilities near my school. I do NOT want to drop out because I know I will never come back and finish. 

 

What do you guys think about this? Will tolerance eventually prevent the phenibut from helping? 

 

 


Edited by jcalderaio, 10 July 2016 - 01:12 AM.


#2 JayZin

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 07:30 PM

I doubt this would be a viable long-term treatment, and can result in dependency.



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#3 jroseland

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 07:58 PM

That kind of Phenibut consumption seems like a bad idea to me... Have you tried Kratom or THC/cannabaniod solutions?

#4 jcalderaio

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 08:20 PM

 

That kind of Phenibut consumption seems like a bad idea to me... Have you tried Kratom or THC/cannabaniod solutions?

 

I'm already on a much stronger opiate than Kratom. I'm on suboxone, which is leagues stronger than morphine, and it STILL doesn't help. I've tried Kratom. I got addicted in 2 days and by the third I was shoveling spoonfuls into my mouth and it wasn't even really helping the pain, I was doing it to get high. It's not like that with the Phenibut. Phenibut helps a lot with the pain.

 

The other option is to pretend I've got an opiate addiction and go to a methadone clinic daily to get methadone, but then I'll have an addiction probably worse then Phenibut. Methadone is HIGHLY addicting and dangerous to take (especially for someone with fleeting suicidal thoughts, methadone is easy to overdose on).

 

I cannot use anything with THC. They test for it at my pain management clinic. Plus, I doubt it would be strong enough to help. 



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Posted 10 July 2016 - 10:04 PM

Daily phenibut is fine if you are aware of the risks

#6 jcalderaio

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Posted 11 July 2016 - 12:11 AM

 

 

Daily phenibut is fine if you are aware of the risks

 

I withdrew off of a 3 year, 2 mg/day Klonopin prescription in 2008, so I am familiar with GABA dependencies and what side-effects accompany them. What I want to know, however, is will Phenibut still work for my pain in say, 3 months? I don't want to pick up a Phenibut habit if it's not going to help the pain for at least 6 months.

 

I am also on a myriad of other meds:

 

Amitriptyline - 25 mg once at night
Tegretol XL - 200 mg once at night
Metoprolol ER - 25 mg once at night
Guanfacine - 1 mg three x per day
Suboxone - 4 mg three x per day
Chlorzoxazone - 500 mg three x per day
Lyrica - 200 mg three x per day
Claritin-D 24 hour - 1 tablet once in the morning
Valium (as needed) - 5 mg (usually take one 3 days per week)
Baclofen (as needed) - 10 mg (usually take two, 3 times per week)
 
I will NOT take valium and baclofen if I do decided to take Phenibut every day.
 


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Posted 11 July 2016 - 03:55 AM

I've been on phenibut for about four years daily, dosage fluctuates up to five sometimes six grams. I've had weeks off from time to time and a short stint using Fasoracetam. I primarily use it for social anxiety but do have quite a severe back pain issue that flares up from time to time and do notice that phenibut takes the edge off of that for me. It's not enough on it's own but the effects seem constant for me, I've found that while phenibut does have the tolerance issues that once I reach a certain dosage the effects are quite repeatable without having to keep increasing dosages.

Edited by Dakman, 11 July 2016 - 03:56 AM.


#8 jcalderaio

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Posted 11 July 2016 - 08:36 PM

Wow, four years? Have you noticed any long-term side-effects that have popped up? It does seem to take care of my OCD and social anxiety as well.

 

Do you find that even four years later it helps with your social anxiety as well? If it helps you, why would you ever want to come off? I know people damn phenibut because of its bad withdraw effects, but it does no permanent damage and if it helps THAT much (like it seems to do for us both) why not use it daily?

 

I am aware that I will have to suffer for a few weeks or a month when I decide to quit, but a year of less pain and anxiety is worth it to me, ESPECIALLY if it means finishing my degree. Are you on any meds that effects GABA like I am? (Lyrica, etc.)?



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Posted 11 July 2016 - 08:36 PM

*Duplicate Post by accident*


Edited by jcalderaio, 11 July 2016 - 08:39 PM.


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Posted 11 July 2016 - 09:51 PM

it does have major risk for dependency though especially in the Psychologically unstable.



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#11 jcalderaio

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Posted 12 July 2016 - 07:11 PM

it does have major risk for dependency though especially in the Psychologically unstable.

 

Yes, I fully understand that I will be physically and probably psychologically addicted to this medicine by the time I decide to come off of it, but to graduate, it is worth it to me.







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